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frogmort · 03-03-2011, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

I just found this page full of awesome rare Star Wars pics. Check 'em out! http://izismile.com/2010/08/31/star_..._113_pics.html

Thanks for the link! Some really cool pics.

JamesKurtovich · 03-03-2011, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Beast

Wrongo. Since I don't agree with every choice he's made either.

Like toning down the Jar Jar in Episode II and III?

kamphausd1 · 03-03-2011, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Like toning down the Jar Jar in Episodes I and II?

In the words of Kelso from That 70's Show-"BBBBBBUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN!"

frogmort · 03-03-2011, 05:28 AM

While I would like to have the unaltered OT, my main hopes are for:

Reference picture
Reference(7.1) lossless audio
Lots and lots of never before seen bonus features

I know that a lot of the CGI added to the OT kinda stands out unnaturally, and looks cartoony, but with the technology we have now, I'm sure they could update them to look much more natural, and I'm pretty sure they'll fix the audio on e.IV, the rotoscoping problems, the lightsabers, matte lines etc.
I'm sure that if we know about all that stuff, they do too.

To be honest, I'm also exited(and a little worried) to see what changes have been made, and the extent of additions/changes that they've made.

tilapiah6 · 03-03-2011, 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kamphausd1

In the words of Kelso from That 70's Show-"BBBBBBUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN!"

The irony here being that Kelso is the Jar Jar of That 70s Show.

octagon · 03-03-2011, 05:35 AM

I never thought I'd find myself defending Ashton Kutcher but that was really uncalled for.

frogmort · 03-03-2011, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

The irony here being that Kelso is the Jar Jar of That 70s Show.

That's funny, and true!

tilapiah6 · 03-03-2011, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by octagon

I never thought I'd find myself defending Ashton Kutcher but that was really uncalled for.

Defending Ashton Kutcher is definitely uncalled for.

JamesKurtovich · 03-03-2011, 05:52 AM

Ashton Kutcher is hilarious in That 70's Show! Remember when he was Chewbacca?

Jar Jar isn't funny at all. I dunno why but there's something about his character that is rage-inducing. LOL

kamphausd1 · 03-03-2011, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

The irony here being that Kelso is the Jar Jar of That 70s Show.

Not exactly Kutcher's biggest admirer either, I just couldn't resist using that. And I'll admit he could be annoying at times, but come on, you actually think Kelso's as bad as the Gungan retard?

tilapiah6 · 03-03-2011, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Ashton Kutcher is hilarious in That 70's Show! Remember when he was Chewbacca?

Jar Jar isn't funny at all. I dunno why but there's something about his character that is rage-inducing. LOL

He was also decent in The Butterfly Effect.

I think Jar Jar is rage inducing on every single level. What could have possibly prepared us for seeing such a cartoonish kindergarden aged TV show character invading the first Star Wars movie to come out in nearly two decades?

I genuinely wish I could share Beast's sentiment for Jar Jar.

greg_achen · 03-03-2011, 06:16 AM

I suppose I am indifferent to Jar Jar. Don't love him or hate him. As an integral part of Episode I, a film I happen to think is the best made of the PT, I personally have grown to respect his character in the grand scheme of Star Wars things.

I think a lot of the hate thrown at Jar Jar are people jumping on the bandwagon more than anything else. Don't underestimate the power of mob mentality and a perceived majority. After all, anyone who dares like something that a vocal group does not usually gets publicly flogged by said group.

tilapiah6 · 03-03-2011, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by greg_achen

I suppose I am indifferent to Jar Jar. Don't love him or hate him. As an integral part of Episode I, a film I happen to think is the best made of the PT, I personally have grown to respect his character in the grand scheme of Star Wars things.

I think a lot of the hate thrown at Jar Jar are people jumping on the bandwagon more than anything else. Don't underestimate the power of mob mentality and a perceived majority. After all, anyone who dares like something that a vocal group does not usually gets publicly flogged by said group.

I was 14 when I first saw a picture of Jar Jar in a Sci-fi magazine, before the release of Ep 1, and thought "WTF is this nonsense???" I'm an OJJH. (Original Jar Jar Hater)

frogmort · 03-03-2011, 07:03 AM

I used to be a Jar Jar hater, but he's grown on me to the point of being tolerable. Plus he's the one who gave Palpatine Supreme Power! You're supposed to hate him!

JamesKurtovich · 03-03-2011, 07:37 AM

I think the Gungans in general were poorly conceived ("cartoon rabbit" is a good description and the Caribbean or Jamaican accents don't help either) and obnoxious. I feel like almost any other kind of alien would have been better.

Probably would have been better if he didn't speak English.

Maybe he just looked good on Happy Meals?

shelldweller · 03-03-2011, 07:44 AM

I really liked JarJar from the moment I first saw him in the Trailer for "the Phantom Menace"... I think he perfectly fits inside the Star Wars Universe. The whole Gungan/Otoh Gunga design and it´s similarity to art nouveau is simply beautiful and compliments the whole story.

The fanboy Anti-JarJar nonsense is just ridiculous!

KubrickFan · 03-03-2011, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kamphausd1

Huh? What's that? You actually disagree with some of Lucas' choices? Well I'd be very interested in hearing what some of those are.

Probably making the first Star Wars, since he apparently cannot sit through it without falling asleep

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Originally Posted by Bluyoda

George Lucas originally wanted his friend Steven Spielberg to direct Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983), but his dispute with the Director's Guild barred him from doing so. He settled for director Richard Marquand instead.

I hadn't heard that one before.

I just know that Spielberg was begging George to let him direct one of the Prequels.

I am glad he didn't.

I thought that was common knowledge. He also offered it to, among others, David Lynch and Paul Verhoeven. Interesting choices, if you ask me. And both people who wouldn't have let Lucas walk over them, which he definitely needs.
Getting more people involved in the prequels probably would have made those better, too. I heard he contacted Lawrence Kasdan to help him writing, but he said no. Could have been interesting.

al cos. · 03-03-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shelldweller

The fanboy Anti-JarJar Movement is just ridiculous!

well, lots of people not-laughing and not-buying isn't exactly a "movement"....

NYorker · 03-03-2011, 09:28 AM

Could you imagine Verhoeven directing Ep.III...?
- Palpatine: "Master Windu, you have 20 seconds to put down your weapon...you have 15 seconds to put down you weapon...10, 5..."
-Mace: "Dead or alive, you're coming with me!"

shelldweller · 03-03-2011, 10:50 AM

@al cos:

Ok Ok, movement is not exactly appropriate ...
Still, I find the JarJar backlash a little extreme. In the end he´s a supporting character.

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03-03-2011, 07:37 AM	#9575
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	I think the Gungans in general were poorly conceived ("cartoon rabbit" is a good description and the Caribbean or Jamaican accents don't help either) and obnoxious. I feel like almost any other kind of alien would have been better. Probably would have been better if he didn't speak English. Maybe he just looked good on Happy Meals? Last edited by JamesKurtovich; 03-03-2011 at 08:02 AM.

03-03-2011, 07:44 AM	#9576
shelldweller Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:73	I really liked JarJar from the moment I first saw him in the Trailer for "the Phantom Menace"... I think he perfectly fits inside the Star Wars Universe. The whole Gungan/Otoh Gunga design and it´s similarity to art nouveau is simply beautiful and compliments the whole story. The fanboy Anti-JarJar nonsense is just ridiculous! Last edited by shelldweller; 03-03-2011 at 09:36 AM.

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03-03-2011, 05:28 AM	#9564
frogmort Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Frogmorton Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:27	While I would like to have the unaltered OT, my main hopes are for: Reference picture Reference(7.1) lossless audio Lots and lots of never before seen bonus features I know that a lot of the CGI added to the OT kinda stands out unnaturally, and looks cartoony, but with the technology we have now, I'm sure they could update them to look much more natural, and I'm pretty sure they'll fix the audio on e.IV, the rotoscoping problems, the lightsabers, matte lines etc. I'm sure that if we know about all that stuff, they do too. To be honest, I'm also exited(and a little worried) to see what changes have been made, and the extent of additions/changes that they've made.

03-03-2011, 05:35 AM	#9566
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	I never thought I'd find myself defending Ashton Kutcher but that was really uncalled for.

03-03-2011, 05:52 AM	#9569
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	Ashton Kutcher is hilarious in That 70's Show! Remember when he was Chewbacca? Jar Jar isn't funny at all. I dunno why but there's something about his character that is rage-inducing. LOL

03-03-2011, 06:16 AM	#9572
greg_achen Expert Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:N/A Blu-ray collection:145	I suppose I am indifferent to Jar Jar. Don't love him or hate him. As an integral part of Episode I, a film I happen to think is the best made of the PT, I personally have grown to respect his character in the grand scheme of Star Wars things. I think a lot of the hate thrown at Jar Jar are people jumping on the bandwagon more than anything else. Don't underestimate the power of mob mentality and a perceived majority. After all, anyone who dares like something that a vocal group does not usually gets publicly flogged by said group.

03-03-2011, 07:03 AM	#9574
frogmort Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Frogmorton Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews:27	I used to be a Jar Jar hater, but he's grown on me to the point of being tolerable. Plus he's the one who gave Palpatine Supreme Power! You're supposed to hate him!

03-03-2011, 09:28 AM	#9579
NYorker Power Member Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Europe Blu-ray collection:55	Could you imagine Verhoeven directing Ep.III...? - Palpatine: "Master Windu, you have 20 seconds to put down your weapon...you have 15 seconds to put down you weapon...10, 5..." -Mace: "Dead or alive, you're coming with me!"

03-03-2011, 10:50 AM	#9580
shelldweller Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Blu-ray collection:73	@al cos: Ok Ok, movement is not exactly appropriate ... Still, I find the JarJar backlash a little extreme. In the end he´s a supporting character.

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