Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I hope Shakespeare didn´t rape anyone´s childhood but I suggest reading "Romeo & Juliet"... ;-)

1) Bill Shakespeare to George Lucas is an excellent comparison...; and
2) Romeo & Juliet took place over 5 days.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

1) Bill Shakespeare to George Lucas is an excellent comparison...; and
2) Romeo & Juliet took place over 5 days.

How is it an excellent comparison?

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by nathan_393

How is it an excellent comparison?

Dude. I wasn't serious. It's a ridiculous comparison.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Dude. I wasn't serious. It's a ridiculous comparison.

Oh okay. Sorry, didn't realize it. haha

[Gamma_Winstead]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I hope Shakespeare didn´t rape anyone´s childhood but I suggest reading "Romeo & Juliet"... ;-)

Because all those things happened in R&J.

[shelldweller]

I´m still a little worried the effects will not be revised for the Blu-Ray editions of the movies. This Variety-article is about John Knoll and is job of converting the saga to 3D. Variety claims Knoll said that there won´t be any changes made to the visual effects for the 3D release and therefore for the Blu-Rays...

"Knoll said there are no plans to add or fix visual effects on the movies. Over the years, Lucas's digital tweaks on the original trilogy pics have generated pushback from fans."

I still can´t imagine that Yoda won´t be turned to CG for this release... just as an example.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I´m still a little worried the effects will not be revised for the Blu-Ray editions of the movies. This Variety-article is about John Knoll and is job of converting the saga to 3D. Variety claims Knoll said that there won´t be any changes made to the visual effects for the 3D release and therefore for the Blu-Rays...

"Knoll said there are no plans to add or fix visual effects on the movies. Over the years, Lucas's digital tweaks on the original trilogy pics have generated pushback from fans."

I still can´t imagine that Yoda won´t be turned to CG for this release... just as an example.

It sounds to me like that only applies to the 3D releases, I find it hard to believe the HD transfers won't be different from the most recent DVD sets.

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Gamma_Winstead

Because all those things happened in R&J.

Ok... what I meant with the "Romeo & Juliet" comparison is that Romeo and Juliet are star-crossed lovers falling in love at first sight. The same thing applies to Anakin and Padmé ...

[Dynamo of Eternia]

I doubt that they will make Yoda CG in Empire and Jedi. Maybe in TPM.

Frankly, I hope that if nothing else, they redo the lightsaber special effects in the OT. As much as I do want the unaltered OT to come out, if the only version that we are getting are going to be the one with all of the updates, then they really should fix that. Those effects stand out like a sore thumb compared to most from the original versions, and for whatever reason they've remained largely untouched in the past 2 sets of revisions (unless you count the color timing issues of the 2004 release which made them look even worse).

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

It sounds to me like that only applies to the 3D releases, I find it hard to believe the HD transfers won't be different from the most recent DVD sets.

I certainly hope so... that´s what I like to read in it also.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

Ok... what I meant with the "Romeo & Juliet" comparison is that Romeo and Juliet are star-crossed lovers falling in love at first sight. The same thing applies to Anakin and Padmé ...

Romeo > Anakin

Something tells me if Juliet was aware of Romeo's murdering little kids, whining all the time, terrible delivery of lines, etc., she wouldn't have fallen in love so quickly.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I hope Shakespeare didn´t rape anyone´s childhood but I suggest reading "Romeo & Juliet"... ;-)

If you ever get that time machine finished perhaps you could take a quick trip back and make the same suggestion to Mr Lucas.

[Chordata]

I wonder how many times Shakespeare had to revise his plays after they were published...

[octagon]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I wonder how many times Shakespeare had to revise his plays after they were published...

Scholars did find an early outlline in which Romeo fell in love with Juliet when he was five. In the margin are hand-written notes believed to read "Jesus, this is stupid, what was I thinking'.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by octagon

Scholars did find an early outlline in which Romeo fell in love with Juliet when he was five. In the margin are hand-written notes believed to read "Jesus, this is stupid, what was I thinking'.

That's amazing! What a great little bit of trivia.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

Ok... what I meant with the "Romeo & Juliet" comparison is that Romeo and Juliet are star-crossed lovers falling in love at first sight. The same thing applies to Anakin and Padmé ...

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Romeo > Anakin

Something tells me if Juliet was aware of Romeo's murdering little kids, whining all the time, terrible delivery of lines, etc., she wouldn't have fallen in love so quickly.

They met ten years earlier though, granted he was less of an idiot but he was a little boy. Love at first sight isn't a term I'd use to describe their relationship.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I just watched Clones last week/weekend, and it finally struck me how silly it is that Padme even ever fell in love with him. They're together for like 3 days, during which he whines, scares her, kills little kiddie tuscan raiders, throws things, complains about being a jedi, tells her to lie, etc., then at the end of the 3 days she's all "I truly, deeply, love you."

Huh?

(PS Yes, I can suspend disbelief, as I've done all these years. )

Losing the deleted scenes with Padme's family hurt that movie so much. There's a little moment where she gazes out of the window at Anakin which speaks more for their relationship than any dialogue scene could ever do. Those scenes have a very different vibe to the rest of the film though, a warm family feel which is at odds with the more clinical CG environments. They seem to come from a different film entirely.

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I wonder how many times Shakespeare had to revise his plays after they were published...

Hey, don't forget that Tolkien changed how Gollum got the ring in The Hobbit so it fit better with his upcoming LOTR books. If the internet was around then, eh?

[Batman1980]

Love doesn't have to make sense, sometimes you fall in love and there's no logic or reason behind it at all. Padme and Anakin were star-crossed lovers, doomed once they fell in love, it works for me.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Love doesn't have to make sense, sometimes you fall in love and there's no logic or reason behind it at all. Padme and Anakin were star-crossed lovers, doomed once they fell in love, it works for me.

You wouldn't be interested in a once-in-a-lifetime real estate investment opportunity, would you?

[bytor_one]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

I just watched Clones last week/weekend, and it finally struck me how silly it is that Padme even ever fell in love with him. They're together for like 3 days, during which he whines, scares her, kills little kiddie tuscan raiders, throws things, complains about being a jedi, tells her to lie, etc., then at the end of the 3 days she's all "I truly, deeply, love you."

Huh?

(PS Yes, I can suspend disbelief, as I've done all these years. )

Hehe, so true. I think what we've learned over the years is Lucas is a pioneer when it comes to special effects, and has good ideas for films, that's what he's best at, but is not a very good writer.

If you read some of the novels, or some of the graphic novels, you quickly learn that Lucas is actually one of the worst star wars writers out there. Some of those books are far better than all of the movies.

You dont realize it when you're a kid, you're just blown away by all this amazing stuff that you're seeing, but when you grow up and watch these films again, they still look cool, but the scripts suck. He should have stuck to what he was best at, working behind the scenes making things look cool, come up with the basic story elements, then leave the script to people who are actually good at that.

If they ever actually do the rumored episodes 7-9, or maybe a Knights of the Old Republic movie, I hope that he takes more of a backseat role. Come up with the story concepts, work on the look of the films, but bring in a great writer to work on the script. To me thats the only way to get a SW movie on the same level of quality as some of the novels.