Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[zaphodbebullbrox]

Title says it all, again Lucas disappoints again.

[zaphodbebullbrox]

It would be nice to have the Original Theatical Releases of each movie and not the doctored movies.

I have no problem with modified movies, the Directors version of THE ABYSS and BRAZIL benefit from this, but I prefer the original version of STAR WARS, the one without the totally ignorant "Episode four" at the beginning.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by zaphodbebullbrox

Title says it all, again Lucas disappoints again.

7.1 is the least of our problems.

[JoshKelhoffer]

Originally Posted by HylianBowcaster

People seem to be getting pretty worked up over this release, maybe you should remember that there's still discs 7 and 8. We haven't really been told what we're going to get on those at all.

People are also forgetting the two interview clips released on play.com. One of them is an older interview with Ewan Mcgregor, repurposed with behind the scenes footage of Wedge. There is also John Williams talking about Yoda's theme.

So it appears there are some interviews/documentaries on those discs as well. Well, technically interviews cut with behind the scenes footage, etc. But really, what was Empire of Dreams? Interviews cut with behind the scenes footage, deleted footage, and scenes from the film. Hmmmmm.....

[Breather]

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

Fair enough. New audio commentaries would be sweet though. To be fair though, I didn't get the DVDs, not sure what extras, if any are on those, so I'm just really going by the BD, which seems a pretty comprehensive release to me, although there could be a bit more.

You didn't buy any of the DVD's? The 2004 OT DVD set or the three prequel sets? I think you're a prequel fan if I remember some of your posts correctly. If you like bonus features and documentaries on the six films, you should really pick up the three 2-disc prequel DVD's and the bonus DVD for the 2004 OT set. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff and from the press release and the two emails I received from Lucasfilm, it doesn't look like any of that material is carrying over to this BD set.

On the OT bonus disc, "Empire of Dreams" is about 2.5 hours. Plus there are picture galleries, bloopers, and three other featurettes on that disc about the characters, creatures, the legacy of Star Wars, the evolution of the lightsaber, etc. Not to mention just about all the OT trailers minus a small handful. About 4 hours total.

The three prequel DVD sets have bonus discs that are pretty loaded. Each one has a roughly 60-minute documentary on the respective film plus other docs, webisodes, featurettes, galleries, and trailers. I'm not even a big prequel fan but the bonus DVD's are worth watching and owning. About 4 hours for each bonus DVD, if I remember correctly. They claim 6 hours of bonus features for each prequel set, but I think 2 hours of that may be from the commentary. Either way, 4 hours of bonus features for each film, not even including the commentary, is pretty good.

Easy way to get them cheap:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Prequel-Trilogy-DVD/dp/B001FVKUAI/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140549&sr=1-3

OT bonus DVD if you're region free:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Bonus-Disc/dp/B000FAGGWQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140659&sr=1-1


When you consider the four DVD's worth of special features I mentioned above, not to mention all of the other stuff that exists, that explains why some, including me, are so disappointed in the extras on this release. Blu-ray's capacity gave them the opportunity to load this set up. A BD-50 can hold 20+ hours of SD material and a BD-25 can hold 9+ hours. Most, if not all, of the past special features were in SD.

The "Documentaries" disc that they're giving us wasted 221 minutes, almost four hours, on the 501st, Spoofs, and "Star Wars Tech" from the History Channel. They could have left those off Disc 9 and gave us "Empire of Dreams" and "From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of a Saga" which account for 216 minutes. An even swap, so to speak. There were four original documentaries on the OT. They're giving us three but leaving off the fourth, FSWTJ. Puzzling, especially when you consider that 40 minutes of it is exclusive material not present in the other three.

For simplicity's sake, they could have even left Disc 9 as they have it now. Add a Disc 10 that includes "The Beginning", "From Puppets to Pixels", "Within a Minute", "Empire of Dreams", "From Star Wars to Jedi", and maybe even "George Lucas: A&E Biography", "Star Wars: Music by John Williams(BBC)", "Star Wars: A Musical Journey", "Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed", and "The Mythology of Star Wars", since they're all likely SD, and that would have substantially improved this release. Considering that they're all likely SD, a BD-50 would have worked fine. Call the disc "Star Wars Documentaries II".

Don't get me wrong. I'm buying it. I'm just really disappointed in the bonus features. There was so much available to them that could have been on this set. Disc 8 should be interesting though, along with disc 7 for prequel fans.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

Like it or not, that's true. George once said he would smash up every copy of the Holiday Special if he could. I didn't like the Holiday Special, but if anybody else did, that's great. HS won't be on this set as long as Lucas lives.

That's why God created YouTube.

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

That's why God created YouTube.

God did not create youtube. I think youtube should be shut down because they break tons of copyright laws. they have stuff in there that should never be free...like the holiday special. I paid for the tape like 15 years ago at the convention. and the quality of youtube video sucks compared to DVD and BD. Youtube is for just browsing..

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by Breather

You didn't buy any of the DVD's? The 2004 OT DVD set or the three prequel sets? I think you're a prequel fan if I remember some of your posts correctly. If you like bonus features and documentaries on the six films, you should really pick up the three 2-disc prequel DVD's and the bonus DVD for the 2004 OT set. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff and from the press release and the two emails I received from Lucasfilm, it doesn't look like any of that material is carrying over to this BD set.

On the OT bonus disc, "Empire of Dreams" is about 2.5 hours. Plus there are picture galleries, bloopers, and three other featurettes on that disc about the characters, creatures, the legacy of Star Wars, the evolution of the lightsaber, etc. Not to mention just about all the OT trailers minus a small handful. About 4 hours total.

The three prequel DVD sets have bonus discs that are pretty loaded. Each one has a roughly 60-minute documentary on the respective film plus other docs, webisodes, featurettes, galleries, and trailers. I'm not even a big prequel fan but the bonus DVD's are worth watching and owning. About 4 hours for each bonus DVD, if I remember correctly. They claim 6 hours of bonus features for each prequel set, but I think 2 hours of that may be from the commentary. Either way, 4 hours of bonus features for each film, not even including the commentary, is pretty good.

Easy way to get them cheap:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Prequel-Trilogy-DVD/dp/B001FVKUAI/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140549&sr=1-3

OT bonus DVD if you're region free:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Bonus-Disc/dp/B000FAGGWQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140659&sr=1-1


When you consider the four discs worth of special features I mentioned above, not to mention all the older stuff that exists, that explains why some, including me, are so disappointed in the extras on this release. Blu-ray's capacity gave them the opportunity to load this set up. A BD-50 can hold 20+ hours of SD material and a BD-25 can hold 9+ hours. Most, if not all, of the past special features were in SD.

The "Documentaries" disc that they're giving us wasted 221 minutes, almost four hours, on the 501st, Spoofs, and "Star Wars Tech" from the History Channel. They could have left those off disc 9 and gave us "Empire of Dreams" and "From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of a Saga" which account for 216 minutes. An even swap, so to speak. There were four original documentaries on the OT back then. They're giving us three but leaving off the fourth, FSWTJ. Puzzling, especially when you consider that 40 minutes of it is exclusive material not present in the other three.

They should have at least included a tenth disc with the three prequel docs(The Beginning, From Puppets to Pixels, Within a Minute) from the DVD's. They could have used the remaining space on the tenth disc for things like more OT material, PT material for prequel fans, Star Wars:The Legacy Revealed, Star Wars: Music by John Williams from the BBC, George Lucas A&E Biography, or a new documentary on the six films, etc.

They had a lot to choose from. Instead, we get almost four hours of Spoofs, the 501st, and a weak History Channel feature. To me, that's disappointing.

It would have taken about a twelve disc set to give us just about everything other than the UOT. Even going with just a tenth disc like I mentioned above, including the five docs I listed, would have substantially improved this release.

Don't get me wrong. I'm buying it. I'm just really disappointed in the bonus features. Disc 8 should be interesting though, along with disc 7 for prequel fans.

The episode 1 documentary is great...I loved it (best of the PT docs). all the PT extras are incredible in the DVD's...empire of dreams was top notch documenting. I want to see the documentary by joseph campbell in the set.

[adywan]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

God did not create youtube. I think youtube should be shut down because they break tons of copyright laws. they have stuff in there that should never be free...like the holiday special. I paid for the tape like 15 years ago at the convention. and the quality of youtube video sucks compared to DVD and BD. Youtube is for just browsing..

Why should it be shut down just because you were stupid enough to pay for a bootleg copy of something that has been available on the internet for years? You do realise that the person that sold you the tape was breaking copyright laws don't you?

[Mr. Thomsen]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

•Disc Nine - The Star Wars Documentaries
◦NEW! Star Warriors (2007, Color, Apx. 84 Minutes) - Some Star Wars fans want to collect action figures... these fans want to be action figures! A tribute to the 501st Legion, a global organization of Star Wars costume enthusiasts, this insightful documentary shows how the super-fan club promotes interest in the films through charity and volunteer work at fundraisers and high-profile special events around the world.

A local TV channel aired this last week after showing all six films and it's a total bore. I mean really, really, really boring.

It's overlong and does not manage to tell an interesting story about the 501st. I think the only ones who are actually going to care about this are the 501st themselves.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Having Lucas' "Ultimate Vision" isn't a good thing.

If the man is so undecided that he can't get the OT films 'right' in his own eyes after at least 3 different versions and over 30 years, then he's a lousy filmmaker.

If only Spielberg could have controlled Star Wars...

You mean Steven Speilberg? The same Steven Spielberg that had THREE versions of Close Encounters of the Third Kind? The same amount of A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi editions.

I own the 30th Anniversary Edition of Close Encounters, and it includes THREE versions of the film. Theatrical, Special Edition and Director's Cut.

For those of you new to Planet Earth, Spielberg and Lucas are good friends...

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Mr. Thomsen

A local TV channel aired this last week after showing all six films and it's a total bore. I mean really, really, really boring.

It's overlong and does not manage to tell an interesting story about the 501st. I think the only ones who are actually going to care about this are the 501st themselves.

Whoa, spoiler alert.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

7.1 is the least of our problems.

THANK YOU! +1,000,003.

We're getting 6.1 - WOWWY!

I would've been happy with 5.1 even!

[ObiTrentKenobi]

The Making of Star Wars (1977, Color, Apx. 49 Minutes)
The Empire Strikes Back: SPFX (1980, Color, Apx. 48 Minutes)
Classic Creatures: Return of the Jedi (1983, Color, Apx. 48 Minutes)
A Conversation with the Masters: The Empire Strikes Back 30 Years Later (2010, Color, Apx. 25 Minutes)
Deleted and extended scenes from episodes 1-6
plethora of audio commentaries
HD Video and Audio



............In conjunction with my current sets of DVD's and VHS collections, I'm Happy

[starwarsagent]

Originally Posted by Mr. Thomsen

A local TV channel aired this last week after showing all six films and it's a total bore. I mean really, really, really boring.

It's overlong and does not manage to tell an interesting story about the 501st. I think the only ones who are actually going to care about this are the 501st themselves.

Zzzzz. You know. I know members of the 501st very well. I actually stayed at the same hotel they ALL stayed for celebration v in florida. they are cool people trust me...

but it's a whole other world, to join them you have to dress up in a stormtrooper or some other guard. I DONT DRESS UP! I quit that on my 13th halloween. Unless it's halloween night and I go out to party.

The guys in the 501st have a military attitude about them that I don't like. and how come jedi or sith cannot be in the 501st? I see a lot of problems with the group as they are bias.

Basically, if you don't work a convention and put on a costume you aren't one of them..and why would I want to work during a convention anyway?


Zzzz.

[adywan]

back on topic, the 501st doc is yet another example of just cramming anything on the Blu-Ray that people will have already seen before the set is even released. With so many things locked away in the archives they could have come up with things a lot better. It looks like the 9th disc is a pretty big waste of time. You can bet the old docs are just straight from the old laserdisc masters too.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

we had no youtube back in 1997. The only way to see the holiday special was on a VHS tape or an expensive DVD. It wasn't available on the internet.

You are hilarious. You are crying about how youtube breaks copywrite laws when you actually purchased something that was never distributed for retail sale that someone probably pirated in their basement. The 'flimmakers' responsible for that trainwreck of a Holiday Special didn't see a dime of your money. Dude, YOU broke copywrite laws. Pot and the kettle for sure.

Anyway, I too am pretty disappointed in the 9th disc of special features. I don't care to learn about a group of adults playing 'dress up' and if I want to watch Robot Chicken or the Family Guy I can go on youtube/Hulu. Good times.

[The Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by Breather

You didn't buy any of the DVD's? The 2004 OT DVD set or the three prequel sets? I think you're a prequel fan if I remember some of your posts correctly. If you like bonus features and documentaries on the six films, you should really pick up the three 2-disc prequel DVD's and the bonus DVD for the 2004 OT set. You're missing out on a lot of good stuff and from the press release and the two emails I received from Lucasfilm, it doesn't look like any of that material is carrying over to this BD set.

On the OT bonus disc, "Empire of Dreams" is about 2.5 hours. Plus there are picture galleries, bloopers, and three other featurettes on that disc about the characters, creatures, the legacy of Star Wars, the evolution of the lightsaber, etc. Not to mention just about all the OT trailers minus a small handful. About 4 hours total.

The three prequel DVD sets have bonus discs that are pretty loaded. Each one has a roughly 60-minute documentary on the respective film plus other docs, webisodes, featurettes, galleries, and trailers. I'm not even a big prequel fan but the bonus DVD's are worth watching and owning. About 4 hours for each bonus DVD, if I remember correctly. They claim 6 hours of bonus features for each prequel set, but I think 2 hours of that may be from the commentary. Either way, 4 hours of bonus features for each film, not even including the commentary, is pretty good.

Easy way to get them cheap:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Prequel-Trilogy-DVD/dp/B001FVKUAI/ref=sr_1_3?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140549&sr=1-3

OT bonus DVD if you're region free:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Trilogy-Bonus-Disc/dp/B000FAGGWQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1309140659&sr=1-1


When you consider the four DVD's worth of special features I mentioned above, not to mention all of the other stuff that exists, that explains why some, including me, are so disappointed in the extras on this release. Blu-ray's capacity gave them the opportunity to load this set up. A BD-50 can hold 20+ hours of SD material and a BD-25 can hold 9+ hours. Most, if not all, of the past special features were in SD.

The "Documentaries" disc that they're giving us wasted 221 minutes, almost four hours, on the 501st, Spoofs, and "Star Wars Tech" from the History Channel. They could have left those off Disc 9 and gave us "Empire of Dreams" and "From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making of a Saga" which account for 216 minutes. An even swap, so to speak. There were four original documentaries on the OT. They're giving us three but leaving off the fourth, FSWTJ. Puzzling, especially when you consider that 40 minutes of it is exclusive material not present in the other three.

For simplicity's sake, they could have even left Disc 9 as they have it now. Add a Disc 10 that includes "The Beginning", "From Puppets to Pixels", "Within a Minute", "Empire of Dreams", "From Star Wars to Jedi", and maybe even "George Lucas: A&E Biography", "Star Wars: Music by John Williams(BBC)", "Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed", and "The Mythology of Star Wars", since they're all likely SD, and that would have substantially improved this release. Call the disc "Star Wars Documentaries II".

Don't get me wrong. I'm buying it. I'm just really disappointed in the bonus features. There was so much available to them that could have been on this set. Disc 8 should be interesting though, along with disc 7 for prequel fans.

I did not say I like the prequels better than the OT. I love both trilogies equally. And people must accept what is on the discs whether it pleases them or not. It's not going to change the facts of what is on the discs, yes I can understand that there probably should have been more (and more comprehensive) bonus features, but I think it's worth it for what it is. Just my two pence here.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

I did not say I like the prequels better than the OT. I love both trilogies equally. And people must accept what is on the discs whether it pleases them or not. It's not going to change the facts of what is on the discs, yes I can understand that there probably should have been more (and more comprehensive) bonus features, but I think it's worth it for what it is. Just my two pence here.

We are all buying it no matter how much we ***** and moan...lol. Anyway, I think the goal was to put out special features that we not included with the previous DVD releases? I could be wrong there as I didn't memorize the special features of the DVD releases (have to admit, I didn't even watch them as I would rather spend my time watching the actual movies). But to each their own. Its almost July (convention season) and we should HOPEFULLY be seeing some more footage of the actual movies soon! Pretty excited!

[The Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by Jay444

We are all buying it no matter how much we ***** and moan...lol. Anyway, I think the goal was to put out special features that we not included with the previous DVD releases? I could be wrong there as I didn't memorize the special features of the DVD releases (have to admit, I didn't even watch them as I would rather spend my time watching the actual movies). But to each their own. Its almost July (convention season) and we should HOPEFULLY be seeing some more footage of the actual movies soon! Pretty excited!

Lol, that's so true. Agnosing wait though, still over two months. I can't wait to get my hands on the set.