Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Blu Myers]

Originally Posted by lkmg

Sorry if this was asked before, will all the bonus features from the DVDs be carried over to the blus? Should I keep my DVDs or can safely sell them away?

No. Hold on to your dvds.

[Bukax42]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Shame that the one for Sith is so poor though. Struzan complained that his original composition was changed, which is fair enough, but even his likenesses are strangely angular and awkward. I think even he'd had enough with Star Wars at that point.

It's definitely the weakest of the bunch, but I think it's still better than 99,9% modern blockbuster posters.

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

The transfers and the movies themselves are what I'm after in this release, whereas the artwork ranks somewhat lower in terms of importance

That's true, but Star Wars is famous franchise known also for its amazing artworks (I recommend great The Star Wars Poster Book), so they really could've done something much, much better. Besides, isn't that nice when you have great looking edition on your shelf? Yes, what's on the discs is most important, but I think crappy artworks are reserved for standard editions of one movie, box sets, especially with cult movies deserves more.

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

What day is the Star Wars panel on at Comi-con then?

It's starts on thursday and last's through the weekend july 21st-24th

[adywan]

Originally Posted by aiman04

First image from the actual blu-ray on screen, nothing really, but why not:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4105...u-ray-hands-on

The one thing about this so called reviewer is how the hell could he honestly say just how good the transfer of ANH looks? I mean look how far back the reviewer had to be and why such a small TV to show off the Blu-Rays? You couldn't give an honest review of how they look in this situation. And not one mention from any of the reviewers that have seen the clips about the colouring. Did they just show these previews to people who have no idea about these problems?

Will we get just the same old transfers that were done for 2004? Most probably. When the original trilogy was screened digitally at Celebration V last year they were the same old transfers. When the documentary ILM:Creating the impossible was made they used all footage of TPM from the new Blu-Ray transfer, yet all of the OT footage was the same as the messed up 2004 release. Some have argued that maybe they want to keep the new transfers under wraps, well that is an argument that falls flat on its face when you consider the TPM footage used.

It will be interesting to see if they show any footage from the films at ComicCon, because at least then we'll have some idea if the OT transfers are new or not when people that know what they are talking about get to see them. But, by the looks of things, the panel is only going to be showing footage from the special features

Yes, the 2004 transfers were rushed and many mistakes were made, but there is no excuse for them to use the same transfers for the Blu-rays. They have had 7 years to correct these mistakes. Using the 2004 ones will only help fuel the dismay that many fans have towards GL in recent years that he is no longer as concerned as he was about providing the best quality product but just one that takes the least amount of effort in return for the highest profit and his now "that'll do" sort of attitude. I really wish the old George was still around, before he turned to the dark side

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by adywan

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4105...u-ray-hands-on

The one thing about this so called reviewer is how the hell could he honestly say just how good the transfer of ANH looks? I mean look how far back the reviewer had to be and why such a small TV to show off the Blu-Rays? You couldn't give an honest review of how they look in this situation. And not one mention from any of the reviewers that have seen the clips about the colouring. Did they just show these previews to people who have no idea about these problems?

Just because he wasn't sitting at what you deem an optimal viewing distance doesn't make his review any less "honest".

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Not sure if someones already posted, but the Star Wars has some funny soundboards on it:

http://www.starwars.com/games/playno...ds/#/?theme=13

Enjoy!

Awesome! Wish I could save them as .mp3s to use as sounds on my phone.

[adywan]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Just because he wasn't sitting at what you deem an optimal viewing distance doesn't make his review any less "honest".

It has nothing to do with "what i deem" to be optimal viewing distance at all. At that distance and on a screen that size a good upscale of a DVD would look great, so you can't really say something like this now can you? :

In short, from our fleeting but much welcomed previews, Lucasfilm has done an awesome job with the Blu-ray transfer.

Originally Posted by O_V_N

Awesome! Wish I could save them as .mp3s to use as sounds on my phone.

If you are using Firefiox, below version 4, then you can use Cacheviewer. Just let each section of the soundboards load up then open cacheviewer and you can save all of the sound files

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

It's starts on thursday and last's through the weekend july 21st-24th

Cool, I was wondering when it was. Hopefully they show footage on a bigger screen than what was presented recently. All I want to know if is they fixed the transfer, that will go a long way in helping me decide to keep my preorder or cancel. Hoping I do not have to cancel...lol

[The Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by adywan

Will we get just the same old transfers that were done for 2004? Most probably

It's been stated multiple times that further enhancements have been made, so I doubt we'll be getting exactly the same transfers. One thing I've noticed, on this forum and elsewhere is that a some people seem to me, to be determined to put down this set, and all I can say is, don't get it, if you think it's gonna suck, because really, you're not doing yourself a favour at all.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by adywan

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/4105...u-ray-hands-on

The one thing about this so called reviewer is how the hell could he honestly say just how good the transfer of ANH looks? I mean look how far back the reviewer had to be and why such a small TV to show off the Blu-Rays? You couldn't give an honest review of how they look in this situation. And not one mention from any of the reviewers that have seen the clips about the colouring. Did they just show these previews to people who have no idea about these problems?

Will we get just the same old transfers that were done for 2004? Most probably. When the original trilogy was screened digitally at Celebration V last year they were the same old transfers. When the documentary ILM:Creating the impossible was made they used all footage of TPM from the new Blu-Ray transfer, yet all of the OT footage was the same as the messed up 2004 release. Some have argued that maybe they want to keep the new transfers under wraps, well that is an argument that falls flat on its face when you consider the TPM footage used.

It will be interesting to see if they show any footage from the films at ComicCon, because at least then we'll have some idea if the OT transfers are new or not when people that know what they are talking about get to see them. But, by the looks of things, the panel is only going to be showing footage from the special features

Yes, the 2004 transfers were rushed and many mistakes were made, but there is no excuse for them to use the same transfers for the Blu-rays. They have had 7 years to correct these mistakes. Using the 2004 ones will only help fuel the dismay that many fans have towards GL in recent years that he is no longer as concerned as he was about providing the best quality product but just one that takes the least amount of effort in return for the highest profit and his now "that'll do" sort of attitude. I really wish the old George was still around, before he turned to the dark side

While I do agree with your concerns, I think it's too early to draw any conclusions. Let's stay cautiously optimistic.

George turned to the dark side?
That's plain ridiculous, and laughable at best.

If I should be unhappy with the BD transfers, I would definitely be upset, and complain to Lucasfilm, or whichever place it'd be best to address my unhappiness, but for now, I will reserve my judgment until I see THE SAGA with my own eyes, or read capable reviews...

It's a given that fans are going to be angry and let down, as the expect the best thing in the galaxy, just like they did when TPM was about to be released.
I try to be more realistic, and hope that they have put all their magic into this release.

I am fine that Yoda, and Jabba are not going to be CG, or at least digital head replacements for Yoda, although that would make the OT so much better, let alone using CG for the asteroid monster, and better compositing for the Rancor.....
I try to be realistic about these things.

Blah, blah...

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by adywan

It has nothing to do with "what i deem" to be optimal viewing distance at all. At that distance and on a screen that size a good upscale of a DVD would look great, so you can't really say something like this now can you?

While I do agree with your concerns about the possibility 2004 'masters' being used in the this release, and I also agree that the TV being used to screen these on is rather small, this part of the article should be taken into consideration:

Admittedly, we didn't see much. And because of its exclusivity and sensitivity, we weren't allowed to take photographs or video footage of the screen itself (just wide shots). But what we did see was enough to get us as excited as a 7-year-old given his first Darth Vader costume on Christmas morning.

They weren't allowed to take up-close pictures. That doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't get a closer look at it, themselves... they just couldn't photograph it at that proximity.

[adywan]

Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

It's been stated multiple times that further enhancements have been made, so I doubt we'll be getting exactly the same transfers. One thing I've noticed, on this forum and elsewhere is that a some people seem to me, to be determined to put down this set, and all I can say is, don't get it, if you think it's gonna suck, because really, you're not doing yourself a favour at all.

Just because they have stated further enhancements have been made means nothing as to what transfer has been used. All this probably means is that some changes have been made, most likely in the way of a few new FX shots/scenes.

You can't really blame people not wanting to get so hyped up about this set after how messed up the 2004 DVDs and the laserdisc ports for the bonus DVDs were. What, can't people complain/ be weary about anything or do we all have to have the "oh my god, i can't wait for September 16th. These Blu-rays are going to look so good and Lucasfilm will have fixed the colours..." etc mentality? A forum is for discussion, after all, so there will always be people that have differing opinions than yourself. But i guess i am just a "hater" because i don't lap up everything as being "perfect" just because it has the Star Wars/George Lucas" tag on it.

I, for one, will be over the moon if the colour/ audio problems are gone on the Blu-Rays. It's just that i'm not going to be over excited about this set, only to be disappointed at the quality again like i was in 2004. Is that such a crime?

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

George turned to the dark side?
That's plain ridiculous, and laughable at best.

it's actually something George himself has said on numerous occasions, so i guess you think George is ridiculous then.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by adywan

It has nothing to do with "what i deem" to be optimal viewing distance at all. At that distance and on a screen that size a good upscale of a DVD would look great, so you can't really say something like this now can you? :

How does that make him dishonest?

[adywan]

Originally Posted by O_V_N

How does that make him dishonest?

Now you are just twisting what i said. It's just a figure of speech. I guess what i should have said is that you can't really say just how good they looked given the circumstances of the preview

[The Apocalypse]

Originally Posted by adywan

Just because they have stated further enhancements have been made means nothing as to what transfer has been used. All this probably means is that some changes have been made, most likely in the way of a few new FX shots/scenes.

You can't really blame people not wanting to get so hyped up about this set after how messed up the 2004 DVDs and the laserdisc ports for the bonus DVDs were. What, can't people complain/ be weary about anything or do we all have to have the "oh my god, i can't wait for September 16th. These Blu-rays are going to look so good and Lucasfilm will have fixed the colours..." etc mentality? A forum is for discussion, after all, so there will always be people that have differing opinions than yourself. But i guess i am just a "hater" because i don't lap up everything as being "perfect" just because it has the Star Wars/George Lucas" tag on it.

I, for one, will be over the moon if the colour/ audio problems are gone on the Blu-Rays. It's just that i'm not going to be over excited about this set, only to be disappointed at the quality again like i was in 2004. Is that such a crime?


it's actually something George himself has said on numerous occasions, so i guess you think George is ridiculous then.

It's not a crime, no, but saying it's nearly definitely gonna be disappointing doesn't help things at all. I don't know what changes have been made, but I'm certainly looking forward to them. There's no such thing as perfect, because there's always something else, which is especially true of Star Wars. The only way to "know" for sure about the quality of the BDs is when it actually comes out, so whilst I appear quite optimistic about this set, I cannot definitely state it until I see the transfers for myself, on September 12.

[partridge]

I can't wait for my complete set to arrive, I'm already planning a mini marathon of all six films with a friend of mine and I fully expect to be blown away by the image and audio quality.

I just can't believe how many people are sneering at this set without seeing even a second of footage from it! Some posters here are so sure it's going to be rubbish, I swear even if it is perfection to behold they will quibble over something, just to avoid eating humble pie. They'll actively go looking for something to justify their point of view even though they call themselves fans.

It's incredible, you'd think a fan would be looking forward to (some of) their favourite films coming out on blu-ray, ah well.

Come September I'll be settling down to watch all 6 over a couple of days, starting with Ep I

[Jay444]

I just don't understand WHY Lucasfilm can't just say: "All new HD masters!" That would clear up a LOT of questions/concerns. I understand some secrecy is needed to keep fans interested, but the most basic of all blu ray info is: "New HD Masters" when promoting blu rays. If they just would have revealed that three months ago...

[phansson]

I am not a Lucas basher/hater, but the man has made enough money off of these films to justify a complete new transfer from the beginning. I agree with Adywan, while I want these in my collection I will not be satisfied with the same crappy transfers from 2004. While they are decent, they have really bad color timing and some major audio issues. These issues have been documented so much on the internet that it would be EASY for lucasfilm to find and fix all of the mistakes.

I of course will still buy them because I am a HUGE fan.....

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by adywan

Will we get just the same old transfers that were done for 2004? Most probably. When the original trilogy was screened digitally at Celebration V last year they were the same old transfers. When the documentary ILM:Creating the impossible was made they used all footage of TPM from the new Blu-Ray transfer, yet all of the OT footage was the same as the messed up 2004 release. Some have argued that maybe they want to keep the new transfers under wraps, well that is an argument that falls flat on its face when you consider the TPM footage used.

It will be interesting to see if they show any footage from the films at ComicCon, because at least then we'll have some idea if the OT transfers are new or not when people that know what they are talking about get to see them. But, by the looks of things, the panel is only going to be showing footage from the special features

Yes, the 2004 transfers were rushed and many mistakes were made, but there is no excuse for them to use the same transfers for the Blu-rays. They have had 7 years to correct these mistakes. Using the 2004 ones will only help fuel the dismay that many fans have towards GL in recent years that he is no longer as concerned as he was about providing the best quality product but just one that takes the least amount of effort in return for the highest profit and his now "that'll do" sort of attitude. I really wish the old George was still around, before he turned to the dark side

Adywan we don't know yet if they will be the same transfers as 2004 your just assuming they will be ok. And furthermore when they do blu-ray transfers for other films they don't use 7 year old dvd transfers to make a blu-ray. The star wars saga on blu-ray will sell well and be the biggest blu-ray box set release of all time.

[phansson]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

Adywan we don't know yet if they will be the same transfers as 2004 your just assuming they will be ok. And furthermore when they do blu-ray transfers for other films they don't use 7 year old dvd transfers to make a blu-ray. The star wars saga on blu-ray will sell well and be the biggest blu-ray box set release of all time.

Sorry, but if we were getting new transfers, I think that SOMEONE would have "slipped" and mentioned that over the past 6 months.

A lot of those films you are talking about on DVD were not scanned/transferred at HD resolution to begin with. Unfortunately, Star Wars was scanned at 1080p which might make them think that the 2004 transfer is acceptable.

As you can see, I am getting ready for the letdown.......