Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I REALLY hope that these 3 trailers from the Special Edition releases make it to the extras on the Blu-Ray sets. I rememeber them very well from when the movies were being re-released, and they are also on the Widescreen SE VHS release (each tape has one of the trailers on it):

[Show spoiler]‪Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition - A New Hope trailer‬‏ - YouTube


‪Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition - The Empire Strikes Back trailer‬‏ - YouTube


‪Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition - Return Of The Jedi trailer‬‏ - YouTube

Of course George may not want to allow that because if you notice in the 3rd trailer, you can see that scene in ROTJ where Vader and Luke cross light sabers in front of the Emperor and the color timing problem isn't there. He won't want that on there as evidence to compare to the problematic version

In all seriousness, though, I do hope those trailers make it on there. For whatever reason I just really like them, and they even give me goose bumps watching them.


Unfortunately the only thing that we got on the bonus disc from the 2004 DVD set was an older version of the first trailer that didn't even have specific release dates for all of the movies, which I don't recall ever actually seeing in the theater.

Oh yeah. That would be wonderful too. I saw those trailers dozens of times.
They were truly magical. I hope they will be on the set in full HD.

This is the first time I have seen the original lightsaber look of the Vader/Luke shot in front of the Emperor, and boy, did it look good!

They'd better fix that for the BD release!!!!

Originally Posted by AlexSing

FAO nmycon and Dynamo of Eternia

Many thanks for your detailed responses. tbf all I really care about from these releases are a significant step up in picture clarity, a fabulous HD soundtrack for my new home theatre and the cool extras. For that I am happy to keep my preorder in place for the whole saga (I've even spent a small fortune getting it couriered over from the USA to here to our new home in Singapore rather than waiting for it).

Pink lightsabres, a bit of strange colour timing and a cyan Hoth I can live with - and if I hear about Greedo on here one more time it will be ME who shoots first hehehe

Many thanks again for giving me a bit more peace of mind.

I think you are going to be VERY happy with this set, as picture and sound quality are going to be a huge improvement over the DVD release for sure.



I have to say that watching the Comic Con bit I am pretty let down.

Still the same crappy explosion of the death star. Still the ping pong table models.

I really hope this wasn't from the actual BD, but I probably shouldn't keep my hopes up for the OT!

I wish GL was a perfectionist, and fixed the movies for good!
The problem is he seems to be going only half the way.

If he was really interested in tying the PT and the OT together.

The SE were testing ground for the PT, and he made some necessary when he released them on DVD, but he has now had 7!!!!! years to really bring them together, but looking at the footage released so far it doesn't look like he had big plans for them.

Even the Disney ride has better VFX than the feature films.
It's so easy to do nowadays.

We'll see.

[gregmasciola]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

If someone didn't see the originals as they were...then you missed out on history, that's your fault.

So because I wasn't born before 1977, that's my fault?

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

So just because someone uses a reference that makes them a "fraud" with "no talent"? Wow.

[Mastaplan23]

can't wait!! gonna go right next to my LOTR trilogy box set X)

[KeithBL]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I have my PS3 hooked up to the TV with Jacks. I can only get 720p with my PS3 and it looks fine to me. My DVD player is hooked up to my HD TV with a digital cable, but thats just a regular DVD. To be honest with you, i'm not all crazy about Blu rays like most of you. I am a normal person. I see not much difference between 720p and 1080p. And many people don't even know when they are watching their TV on 720p so it doesnt matter. Even if it is transferred at 1080 like 79% of the people won't be watching it that way. I can guarantee you! But for this release all I have to do is buy a digital cable and hook my PS3 directly to the TV.

That's a pretty ignorant stance to take overall. Hook your stuff up right, give it a calibration once over (hell, use one of the THX tests on the SW DVD's), watch for a week, then come back and tell us how it doesn't make a difference.

[earmullet]

I hope they've updated the Leonard Maltin interviews with state of the art sound and effects, a new transfer and increased gamma would be cool too.

‪George Lucas/Leonard Maltin Interview Part 1‬‏ - YouTube

‪George Lucas/Leonard Maltin Interview Part 2‬‏ - YouTube

‪George Lucas/Leonard Maltin Interview Part 3‬‏ - YouTube

[harry keogh]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

Well, Mr. Super-D-Duper artist. Please, please, please, go to gigposters.com and show them your brilliant expressionist art. Please. Show them how brilliant you are and how much of a fraud Struzan is.

[Cook]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

As I said his resume speaks for itself. I'm not quite sure what pictures he was referencing for his posters as they are 100% original posters. If you mean he was looking at pictures of the actors to draw the posters, well, that is common sense. Obviously he would. There is no indication he does such a thing so its pure speculation on your part. Forgive me if I take your word of knowing about his method of painting with a large grain of salt.

This is the work of a talented artist, and is how posters used to look.



This is good:



This is not:

[shelldweller]

Drew Struzan is one of the greatest artists and illustrators of our time. It is the composition and the technique he uses to render his paintings that makes him so great. His work expresses excitement and adventure like non other, I think.
Of course he works from photos to capture the exact likeness of the actors in a fast way... he even uses a projector and traces the photos! That does not make him a worse artist than anyone else.

[Brightstar]

Originally Posted by phatrat1982

SD= 345600 pixels

HD= 2073600 pixels.


the number is exactly six, as published on promotional media all of the place stating "Blu Ray has 5 to 6 times the resolution of DVD" it is 720p that is 2.66 times SD res.


yeah it is late I can't sleep and this thread is getting to civil someone had to introduce some chaos.

Blu ray takes up more disk space thats why LOTR was put on two disks. Its impossable to put a 4k scan movie onto a disk

[marlon dingle]

I have to agree that he is great, when he did the posters for my favourite movie of all time.

[Blu-man08]

Originally Posted by joliefan

Blu ray takes up more disk space thats why LOTR was put on two disks. Its impossable to put a 4k scan movie onto a disk

Hogwash. Wizard of Oz. Godfather.
The EEs of LOTR each had 4 commentaries taking up bit space. Otherwise, they very well would have been fine on one BD50.

[Jumpman]

Struzan is the master.

This book is the proof. (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Drew-Struz...1761824&sr=1-1)

Absolutely wonderful book.

Has a nice write up about what happened with the Episode III poster with his original artwork inside...the one Lucas prefers to the one the marketing people at Lucasfilm photoshopped to hell....

[Coov]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

You continue to post the most bazar and disturbingly confusing posts I have ever seen. Like some art I can step back, shake my head and say, "I just don't get it."

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Struzan is the master.

This book is the proof. (http://www.amazon.com/Art-Drew-Struz...1761824&sr=1-1)

Absolutely wonderful book.

Has a nice write up about what happened with the Episode III poster with his original artwork inside...the one Lucas prefers to the one the marketing people at Lucasfilm photoshopped to hell....

You need all three books
http://www.amazon.com/Movie-Posters-.../dp/0762420839

http://www.amazon.com/Drew-Struzan-O...1765407&sr=1-1

To get all the posters

[Geoff D]

Struzan is a ****ing legend.

[Nissen]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

I'm sorry, this just can't go unchallenged. Your apparent ignorance and attitude towards art... Well, I'm at a lack for words.

A little humility might suit you better. This is just the age old "fine art" snobbery against commercial art, and a pretty narrow-minded view of art at that. Then again, there are many that would argue that expressionism is not fine art, so pot, meet kettle.

The use of photo reference does not disqualify anyone as an artist. If so then the use of models would have to disqualify also, and then you'd throw Rembrandt and everyone else out with the bathwater. But then again, you seem to not consider impressionism as an art on the whole. You cannot be serious?

The fact that you don't take into consideration the layout and compositional skills of Drew Struzan when evaluating his work, tells me you have no understanding of even the basics of art. To judge any artist by rendering skills alone is quite ignorant.

Drew Struzan's art is not beyond criticism, by no means. I myself have been critical of some of his posters on this very forum (Better off dead), but even a novice like myself can recognize and appreciate his talent. You Sir, apparently, cannot.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

Did you ever stop to consider that Struzan is creating movie posters that have to fit the design of the following: Costume designers, actors in the films, creature designs and special effects created by the movie's effects team? I mean, Lucas can't tell him: "Make me a poster with a Jawa on it." and expect Struzen to know what the hell a Jawa is without being provided some source material?

I would be AWESOME if they would put a special feature on Struzen and his art on one of the blu ray bonus discs!

[Blu-man08]

Originally Posted by Jay444

I would be AWESOME if they would put a special feature on Struzen and his art on one of the blu ray bonus discs!

Aw, Jay you're already awesome.

Anyway, back on topic. It would have been great if Drew Struzan would have come out of retirement for the Saga set. Not that cover art is everything.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Jay444

Did you ever stop to consider that Struzan is creating movie posters that have to fit the design of the following: Costume designers, actors in the films, creature designs and special effects created by the movie's effects team? I mean, Lucas can't tell him: "Make me a poster with a Jawa on it." and expect Struzen to know what the hell a Jawa is without being provided some source material?

I would be AWESOME if they would put a special feature on Struzen and his art on one of the blu ray bonus discs!

Or they could just hurry up and release this

‪Drew: The Man Behind the Poster - "Trailer"‬‏ - YouTube

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by starwarsagent

I've meet Struzan, nice guy...but the guy is mathematical about his art. He obviously works from pictures...straight out methodic...I have never seen him draw or paint without looking at a picture or image from the movie.

I draw and paint from my imagination. Kinda like expressionism...you draw what your mind see's. I refuse to paint from pictures or on a computer. Whenever I paint I always start with a blank canvas and use no references at all.

Struzan is a fraud. He's a commercial artist with no talent. Anyone can just replicate a picture with oils...takes forever however.

Originally Posted by Jay444

Did you ever stop to consider that Struzan is creating movie posters that have to fit the design of the following: Costume designers, actors in the films, creature designs and special effects created by the movie's effects team? I mean, Lucas can't tell him: "Make me a poster with a Jawa on it." and expect Struzen to know what the hell a Jawa is without being provided some source material?

Exactly. I can't believe how utterly asinine starwarsagent's post was.

How can someone expect Struzen to create a movie poster for what (at the time) is a brand new movie, with characters and images that he wouldn't have a pre-existing working knowledge of how they should look?

You can't expect the guy to just glance at an image once or twice with no prior familiarity with it and create a poster that is completely accurate to it.

Expressionism is all well and good in-and-of itself, and it has it's place in the world of art. But painting random stuff that you think up in your mind is not exactly a good formula for creating a movie poster that accurately represents the movie and coincides with the overall advertising campaign.

Also, to say that working from a physical object (or even an image of a physical object) and making a painting of it is fraud is an asinine statement on it's own even separate from the issue of movie posters, etc. There are many different TYPES of art, even within the realm of painting. To simply dismiss all others because it is not the particular method that YOU happen to prefer is nothing short of chosen ignorance.

Originally Posted by marlon dingle

I have to agree that he is great, when he did the posters for my favourite movie of all time.

[Show spoiler]

I love those as well! In fact, I have them hanging over my couch!