Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Ryan0503]

Originally Posted by nmycon

And I just remembered that this isn't the Canadian forum XD

I do so much of my posting there, this thread is pretty much the only non-Canadian thread I'm posting in atm... lol

I apologize for the snarky reply, I didn't realize that the prices were lower even in American best buys and wal-marts.

Hmph! I hope Canada gets this price drop as well

No harm, no foul lol

[kurtlingle]

Originally Posted by georgec

Agreed. Lucas doesn't get respect from people who owe him a great deal for their enjoyment of the movies. If you ask me the prequels, under Lucas' definitive creative control, tell a more visually appealing, interesting story than the OT. There are so many characters and details in the prequels, I can't even keep track LOL. Each time I watch those movies I discover something new.

People loving taking credit from Lucas and giving it to Gary Kurtz, Marcia Lucas, Irvin Kershner, etc., but George is the one that created SW and brought all those people together. Without his vision and executive decisions those other people wouldn't have known what to do. Lucas' storytelling improved enough during the years that he didn't need anybody helping out for the prequels - he knew and planned exactly what he wanted to do, and it worked out brilliantly.

+ 1,000,000.

I just love the whole series (all 6) and am glad to see the whole story.
Can't wait for this on blu-ray!

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by georgec

Now before I'm accused of trolling, let me explain something - my faux posts post-suspension are way over the top and irrationally in support of Lucas. I thought the repetitive "LOL" endings to my posts might give me away. I got some bites from the unwavering pro-Lucas crowd, but more importantly the mods didn't mind my completely inaccurate boasting of Lucas' accomplishments and history.

Yet, I was suspended (with some other posters) for rationally pointing out how Lucas is not an unquestionable creative genius and he has benefited largely from creative people, of whom he later disposed. It makes you wonder about free speech and openness. I'm no freedom fighter and do not wish to cause any consternation, but I think I've demonstrated that mindless, childish, excessive, and inaccurate comments in favor of Lucas can pass.

This debate will go on after the blu-rays come out in September. It's sad how divisive this whole topic is, but everyone here does genuinely enjoy at least a portion of Star Wars, be it UOT, prequels, or what have you. That's perfectly alright and people can enjoy the movies in any way they want. We've discussed all the reasons Lucas hasn't released the UOT (bitterness over divorce with Marcia, fulfilling "original" vision, etc.).

Generally speaking the older crowd prefers the UOT and the younger crowd prefers the prequels and revised OT. As Cowboy said people who are broader fans of "film" also prefer the UOT. Draw your own conclusions.

You probably got suspended not so much because of what your opinion happens to be, but for off-topic conversation.

Many people from both sides of this arguement have been suspended as a result of this sort of thing (I was briefly at one point, myself).

This thread is meant to be about the Blu-Ray release. So, for example, it is on topic to be concerned about the problematic 2004 transfers of the OT being used for the Blu-Ray release (since many of the images that we've seen so far related to the promotion of the BD set indicate tha being the case). However, to go to deep into the issue of Lucas not releasing the UOT, etc, is technically off-topic, and there is another Star Wars thread in the movies section of this message board where that sort of thing can be discussed.

It is a slipperly sloap, no doubt about it. It's hard to talk about one concern or problem that is related to the BD release and not get into some of the other issues that are technically off-topic. But the point is that you likely weren't suspended simply because of what your opinon was... but rather the fact that it was off-topic with the thread.

I think you are reading too deeply into the reasons for your suspension.

Originally Posted by kurtlingle

+ 1,000,000.

I just love the whole series (all 6) and am glad to see the whole story.
Can't wait for this on blu-ray!

I hope you realize that he was being completely sarcastic in the post that you just quoted. He even specifically said as much just a few posts later.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by georgec

People loving taking credit from Lucas and giving it to Gary Kurtz, Marcia Lucas, Irvin Kershner, etc.,

Whether you're being sarcastic or not, that's true. When it's about giving praise, Lucas gets none. When it's about blaming someone, it's all Lucas. Very fallacious and unfair, if you ask me. But then again, it's a typical basher behaviour. And they are called bashers for some reason.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Roonan

Whether you're being sarcastic or not, that's true. When it's about giving praise, Lucas gets none. When it's about blaming someone, it's all Lucas. Very fallacious and unfair, if you ask me. But then again, it's a typical basher behaviour. And they are called bashers for some reason.

It will be the same for Red Tails. If it's good, it's because Lucas didn't write or direct. If it's bad, it's all because of him.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by aiman04

It will be the same for Red Tails. If it's good, it's because Lucas didn't write or direct. If it's bad, it's all because of him.

Unfortunately, it will be the same for everything he's involved in.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by aiman04

It will be the same for Red Tails. If it's good, it's because Lucas didn't write or direct. If it's bad, it's all because of him.

But he did write Red Tails.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Delta09

I just might have to get these.

Re: the BD Commemorative Action Figures, I saw 5 of the 6 4-packs yesterday at Target. They look great. The only one I didn't see is the one for ROTS.

Amazing how cool the SW action figures are today --- wrists turn, ankles turn, helmets are removable, etc. All we had was moving arms and legs and weapons that barely fit in hands. lol

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Cowboy

I am holding out hope that the OT set is the 97 SE (Which I do not prefer) but is at least not tied to the PT in anyway. If Hayden Christensen, stupid Jar Jar Binks and that terible Kiwi voice he slapped on Boba Fett are gone then yes I will buy the OT set. Although mastered from a flawed 8 year old source does not sound inviting. So I guess I am in a wait and see mode.

Many, you have got to be kidding me. I can assure that you are hoping in vain.

It's NOT going to happen! That's 100% for sure.

So, I take it from now on you will be doing your complaining in the SW discussion thread, since you are not going to buy this set.

Bye

Originally Posted by Cowboy

I was asked a question and I gave a legit answer. I am in a wait and see mode at this point because we have no idea what is going to be released. All we have heard was a vague answer and we still dont even know if he went Mr. Cheap on the transfer yet.

Yes, we do. The latest, and probably final edits of the Saga.

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Which is kinda funny since George was quoted a few months back stating that the upcoming 3D releases were for the NEXT generation of fans.

So now apparently if this BD set is for the current GEN, then when does the ORIGINAL GEN get theirs???

You know...the ones who made it all possible for you guys to have yours. .

You have had them for over 20 years. It's either time to move on or let go.

You can still enjoy them on DVD, or even VHS. THAT'S nostalgic.

Watching them on BD won't remind you of your precious childhood memories.

Oh, and thank YOU so much for making it possible to have SW here! I am your life dept.

How about a reality check?

Originally Posted by JasonWard

That makes sense because if you like the prequels, chances are you like the originals therefore the saga set makes sense. The flow doesn't go both ways. Generally people like all six or they only like IV-VI out of nostalgia.

Absolutely!




The thing I'd like Lucas to have updated the most is the Gungan/Droid Army ground battle on Naboo at the end of TPM.
While it was awesome then, it could be so much more complex in terms of the Gungans. The rest is fine, but the Gungans should wear real clothes and stuff. That's all I want.

Who else would like to see an update on that battle for the BD release?

I can't believe we are actually going to have this set in our hands quite soon now!

Time flies!

I am getting this saga as reward for my finished CD, so I am super psyched about it.

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Which is kinda funny since George was quoted a few months back stating that the upcoming 3D releases were for the NEXT generation of fans.

Source?

[Merlinpants]

Now Amazon has reduced the prices of the US boxsets, it works out cheaper to order from the US including shipping costs. The only advantage in the UK is we get the set on the 12th. Might just order both, as the US set can take 18-32 days to arrive and that way have both boxes and the benefit of being able to pick which to keep and ebay the other.

UK complete saga boxset - £67.49 ($110.57)

US complete saga boxset (incl shipping) - $96.47 (£58.87)

It will be interesting to see if the UK has a price war with the supermarkets coming on board nearer the launch date, but no Senitype if you don't pre-order.

Got mine pre-ordered with a discount code from Tesco's at £57.47, so happy for now with that. Good old rip off Britain

[PUsokrJosh305]

Anyone have an iPhone and has the Star Wars: BD Early Access app?? Cause they were suppose to release that today for all Apple Devices in the iTunes Store, but I can't seem to find it.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Anyone have an iPhone and has the Star Wars: BD Early Access app?? Cause they were suppose to release that today for all Apple Devices in the iTunes Store, but I can't seem to find it.

Just gonna ask that myself. I guess we have to wait for the update to be released in the US time zone, so could be anywhere up to 8pm tonight.

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Anyone have an iPhone and has the Star Wars: BD Early Access app?? Cause they were suppose to release that today for all Apple Devices in the iTunes Store, but I can't seem to find it.

I thought it was coming out on 4th...

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Anyone have an iPhone and has the Star Wars: BD Early Access app?? Cause they were suppose to release that today for all Apple Devices in the iTunes Store, but I can't seem to find it.

I had it for the iPad a few weeks ago - it's ok and certainly whets the appetite. I don't recall it being released until later in the day, though. So maybe the iPhone/iPod Touch app is the same.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I thought it was coming out on 4th...

It says the 2nd in the initial release: http://www.starwars.com/themovies/sa...app/index.html

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

It says the 2nd in the initial release: http://www.starwars.com/themovies/sa...app/index.html

Just checked the US store, and only the ipad app is available. We have to wait for it by the looks of things. Certain it will come out before midnight though.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Just checked the US store, and only the ipad app is available. We have to wait for it by the looks of things. Certain it will come out before midnight though.

It better, or I will throw a fit, lol!! jk jk, though I have seen this on a youtube video, I still want to have this right in front of me to keep me occupied till September

[opticzar]

I don't know what I'll do when this thread ends. It's become like reading the daily newspaper

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Now Amazon has reduced the prices of the US boxsets, it works out cheaper to order from the US including shipping costs. The only advantage in the UK is we get the set on the 12th. Might just order both, as the US set can take 18-32 days to arrive and that way have both boxes and the benefit of being able to pick which to keep and ebay the other.

UK complete saga boxset - £67.49 ($110.57)

US complete saga boxset (incl shipping) - $96.47 (£58.87)

It will be interesting to see if the UK has a price war with the supermarkets coming on board nearer the launch date, but no Senitype if you don't pre-order.

Got mine pre-ordered with a discount code from Tesco's at £57.47, so happy for now with that. Good old rip off Britain

Are you in the UK? Those of us in the US get it without VAT