Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 931 - Blu-ray Forum

kurtlingle · 08-09-2011, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

I was looking forward to seeing the PT, I haven't seen them for many years and remember them being an ok trilogy. So I decided to look for some reviews on youtube and came across RedLetterMedia reviews of the PT.....

....Now I can completely understand why there is so much hate for the PT

like I said I enjoyed the PT but after having every single plot hole and bad movie making technique pointed out to me, I was shocked that I'd never realised how badley it was made.

I'm still gunna watch them for sure but I think everyone should watch the reviews. Just to understand that the argument against the PT is justified and not just fanboys or lucas haters looking for something to complain about.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

So you are asking me to watch a review that will ruin Star Wars for me? No thanks! I love the Prequels and can't wait to see them, flaws and all!

Can't wait for

The duel of the fates (Obi + Qui Gon vs Maul)
The Obiwan vs Jango Fett (in the rain) duel
The Clone wars begin battles
The Opening of Ep 3 battle sequence
The first time we see Vader in ep 4 (New Hope)
Vader reveals himself - I am your father!
Luke fights Vader (ep 6) while the rebellion fights in space
One big happy ending, the galaxy is saved, and so is Anakin Skywalker.

Yep, can't wait!

Falaskan · 08-09-2011, 01:29 AM

Lucas seems to have regained his sanity with thi release. Should I dare to hope that Shaw's head is put back on Anakin's ghost body? Dare I hope that Han shoots first (and at all)??

DetroitSportsFan · 08-09-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan

Lucas seems to have regained his sanity with thi release. Should I dare to hope that Shaw's head is put back on Anakin's ghost body? Dare I hope that Han shoots first (and at all)??

No and no.

HylianBowcaster · 08-09-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan

Lucas seems to have regained his sanity with thi release. Should I dare to hope that Shaw's head is put back on Anakin's ghost body? Dare I hope that Han shoots first (and at all)??

I wouldn't be too surprised if Han shot first this time around, but as for the Christensen/Shaw deal I got a gut feeling that's one thing that won't change from the DVDs. It's a small thing anyway, there are other changes that I would want changed again before this one.

crazyBLUE · 08-09-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

No and no.

I'll 2nd this !

Blu-man08 · 08-09-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Falaskan

Lucas seems to have regained his sanity with thi release. Should I dare to hope that Shaw's head is put back on Anakin's ghost body? Dare I hope that Han shoots first (and at all)??

Ghost Anakin's head is now replaced with the Clone Wars CG animated TV series version of Anakin...

Falaskan · 08-09-2011, 01:48 AM

he was a better actor, I'd prefer it if we can't have shaw's head. lol

goldenrod · 08-09-2011, 02:00 AM

Not always red

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiS-3...ature=youtu.be

kenkraly2004 · 08-09-2011, 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I was looking forward to seeing the PT, I haven't seen them for many years and remember them being an ok trilogy. So I decided to look for some reviews on youtube and came across RedLetterMedia reviews of the PT.....

....Now I can completely understand why there is so much hate for the PT

like I said I enjoyed the PT but after having every single plot hole and bad movie making technique pointed out to me, I was shocked that I'd never realised how badley it was made.

I'm still gunna watch them for sure but I think everyone should watch the reviews. Just to understand that the argument against the PT is justified and not just fanboys or lucas haters looking for something to complain about.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

Never mention these reviews for the PT ever again. It's just more prequel trilogy bashing which we don't need. Don't keep bringing them up.

killermike2178 · 08-09-2011, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-man08

Ghost Anakin's head is now replaced with the Clone Wars CG animated TV series version of Anakin...

Or Jake Lloyd's. "Am I an angel?"

nmycon · 08-09-2011, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by HylianBowcaster

I wouldn't be too surprised if Han shot first this time around, but as for the Christensen/Shaw deal I got a gut feeling that's one thing that won't change from the DVDs. It's a small thing anyway, there are other changes that I would want changed again before this one.

As long as the Han vs. Greedo scene is improved, I don't care who shoots first!

That digital lean is ugly as hell, it should look something like this:

VIDEO COMING SOON

lilgigs · 08-09-2011, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavrick

I was looking forward to seeing the PT, I haven't seen them for many years and remember them being an ok trilogy. So I decided to look for some reviews on youtube and came across RedLetterMedia reviews of the PT.....

....Now I can completely understand why there is so much hate for the PT

like I said I enjoyed the PT but after having every single plot hole and bad movie making technique pointed out to me, I was shocked that I'd never realised how badley it was made.

I'm still gunna watch them for sure but I think everyone should watch the reviews. Just to understand that the argument against the PT is justified and not just fanboys or lucas haters looking for something to complain about.

http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/

It is a requirement for this thread to have something negative about star wars in general or the bluray discs for each post?

crazyBLUE · 08-09-2011, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lilgigs

It is a requirement for this thread to have something negative about star wars in general or the bluray discs for each post?

And why is that

???????????????????

Moviefan2k4 · 08-09-2011, 02:30 AM

I still don't get why some are convinced they only replaced Shaw's head for the ending of "Jedi". To me, it looks like Hayden, dressed the whole way in traditional Jedi robes. Shaw's body looks noticably heavier than Hayden, and I suspect there'd be a height difference as well. From an effects standpoint, I'd think it'd be easier to just shoot Hayden alone, and then combine it with the existing elements, to form the final shot.

nmycon · 08-09-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I still don't get why some are convinced they only replaced Shaw's head for the ending of "Jedi". To me, it looks like Hayden, dressed the whole way in traditional Jedi robes. Shaw's body looks noticably heavier than Hayden, and I suspect there'd be a height difference as well. From an effects standpoint, I'd think it'd be easier to just shoot Hayden alone, and then combine it with the existing elements, to form the final shot.

I used to think this, but they definitely only replaced the head. They did alter Shaw's body for the 2004 release, as it is skinnier and tilted to the side. But the folds and creases in the robes are exactly the same.

If Hayden is skinnier than Shaw, how are they going to cover up Shaw with the new Hayden footage, without making him appear too large compared to Ben?

It's also worth noting that Hayden never wore robes like that. I guess he could have borrowed Ewan's to shoot the scene... but there's no denying it's Shaw's body still.

lilgigs · 08-09-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

And why is that

???????????????????

lol it just seems that way.

"I'm excited for these releases but the PT sucks!"

"Oh the color looks terrible"

"Read these reviews about how awful the PT is"
Etc.

Just seems kind of ridiculous, guess not everyone can be pleased.

Indyjones · 08-09-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I still don't get why some are convinced they only replaced Shaw's head for the ending of "Jedi". To me, it looks like Hayden, dressed the whole way in traditional Jedi robes. Shaw's body looks noticably heavier than Hayden, and I suspect there'd be a height difference as well. From an effects standpoint, I'd think it'd be easier to just shoot Hayden alone, and then combine it with the existing elements, to form the final shot.

Hayden didn't even know about being added to Jedi, until the Dvd's were released. It was a head replacement, with Shaw's body tweaked.

Moviefan2k4 · 08-09-2011, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nmycon

It's also worth noting that Hayden never wore robes like that. I guess he could have borrowed Ewan's to shoot the scene... but there's no denying it's Shaw's body still.

Well, they could've used his robes from "Episode II", since the matching would be pretty close.

nmycon · 08-09-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Well, they could've used his robes from "Episode II", since the matching would be pretty close.

Don't think so...

not even close

but my whole point is that Hayden never had beige robes availible for him to wear for the two episodes he was in, so it's unlikely the footage was filmed during episode 2 or 3, the head is probably taken from some TV spot or other promo footage.

nmycon · 08-09-2011, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nmycon

As long as the Han vs. Greedo scene is improved, I don't care who shoots first!

That digital lean is ugly as hell, it should look something like this:

VIDEO COMING SOON

Here's the video:

The short shot of Greedo shooting actually comes from Hanszuper's spoof video

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08-09-2011, 01:29 AM	#18602
Falaskan Banned Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Alaska Blu-ray collection:274 DVD collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:44	Lucas seems to have regained his sanity with thi release. Should I dare to hope that Shaw's head is put back on Anakin's ghost body? Dare I hope that Han shoots first (and at all)??

08-09-2011, 01:48 AM	#18607
Falaskan Banned Top contributor Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Alaska Blu-ray collection:274 DVD collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:44	he was a better actor, I'd prefer it if we can't have shaw's head. lol

08-09-2011, 02:00 AM	#18608
goldenrod Senior Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Montréal, Québec Blu-ray collection:653 DVD collection:18	Not always red http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiS-3...ature=youtu.be

08-09-2011, 02:30 AM	#18614
Moviefan2k4 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Montgomery, TX 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:317 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	I still don't get why some are convinced they only replaced Shaw's head for the ending of "Jedi". To me, it looks like Hayden, dressed the whole way in traditional Jedi robes. Shaw's body looks noticably heavier than Hayden, and I suspect there'd be a height difference as well. From an effects standpoint, I'd think it'd be easier to just shoot Hayden alone, and then combine it with the existing elements, to form the final shot.

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