Sony Black Crush on late-2014 / early-2015 BDs - Page 31 - Blu-ray Forum

Professor Echo · 03-26-2015, 06:44 PM

I've skipped over this thread for days thinking it was about a SONY released movie called BLACK CRUSH that I never heard of and had no interest in.

PowellPressburger · 03-26-2015, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I've skipped over this thread for days thinking it was about a SONY released movie called BLACK CRUSH that I never heard of and had no interest in.

haha I did the same thing at first.

I don't think they were but none of the Sony licensed titles to Twilight Time were affected correct?

flyry · 03-26-2015, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Robert Harris thinks that the BDs look okay.

tell him to move his bloomin arse on that my fair lady 50th anniversary

Professor Echo · 03-26-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Robert Harris thinks that the BDs look okay.

He also praised the pastel FRENCH CONNECTION and said Criterion was right not to letterbox RIOT IN CELL BLOCK 11. Sorry, but the self-appointed god of HTF is in the back pockets of the studios. He's done good restoration work, but his poorly written, biased reviews and posts, not to mention all his creepy, toady sycophants over there, are a joke.

jscoggins · 03-26-2015, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pecker

I think the key words are 'could be'.

Steve W

Not sure what you mean.

1) Robert Harris is implying that our TVs are all too dark?

2) Robert Harris is implying that we need to buy new TVs?

3) Robert Harris thinks that the black crush was correctly applied?

Sporkies · 03-26-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Professor Echo

He also praised the pastel FRENCH CONNECTION and said Criterion was right not to letterbox RIOT IN CELL BLOCK 11. Sorry, but the self-appointed god of HTF is in the back pockets of the studios. He's done good restoration work, but his poorly written, biased reviews and posts, not to mention all his creepy, toady sycophants over there, are a joke.

Man is this ever the truth.

PowellPressburger · 03-26-2015, 07:24 PM

In all fairness those comments work both ways. I think we should be a little more kind.

Gold Ranger · 03-26-2015, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

Not sure what you mean.

1) Robert Harris is implying that our TVs are all too dark?

2) Robert Harris is implying that we need to buy new TVs?

3) Robert Harris thinks that the black crush was correctly applied?

All of the above!

StingingVelvet · 03-26-2015, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

"My Girl" (Blu-ray vs DVD):

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...ss=1#vergleich

I think the first screen here really summarizes the issue. Looks terrible.

tama · 03-26-2015, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

He also says that the Sony BDs are being mastered according to a new spec.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...ray/?p=4211699

Even if that were the case, adjusting our monitors does not reveal the detail that was destroyed by the black crush.

To be fair to his response, he admits to NOT tracking the thread/conversation and says It Could Be a Gamma issue as opposed to It is. He really didn't make a definitive statement in regards to it.

Now I think he's incorrect about the GAMMA setting being an issue.

jscoggins · 03-26-2015, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I think the first screen here really summarizes the issue. Looks terrible.

I'm so happy to read your recent remarks.

Geoff D · 03-26-2015, 10:04 PM

Yowch, those My Girls caps are nasty. The night time shot has the same blue-tinged blacks that plagued Fury too.

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Originally Posted by Professor Echo

He also praised the pastel FRENCH CONNECTION and said Criterion was right not to letterbox RIOT IN CELL BLOCK 11. Sorry, but the self-appointed god of HTF is in the back pockets of the studios. He's done good restoration work, but his poorly written, biased reviews and posts, not to mention all his creepy, toady sycophants over there, are a joke.

He praised the original French Connection Blu-ray for what it was because he personally liked what Friedkin had tried to do, but he made it quite plain that it was NOT the original Academy Award winning photography that we were seeing, and said that they should've included another disc with that as an option.

Why is everything so ****ing black and white with people? Why does RAH have to be a god among men or an evil studio shill? As I just said in the Spartacus thread, he's forgotten more about film than 99.999% of people on this board (including me) will ever know so I can forgive the occasional bump in the road.

His posting style has become increasingly droll over the years but, speaking as a full-time sarcastic douchebag, I've never had a problem with that. RAH's always been gracious enough to answer any questions I've had about film so he's still one of the good guys IMO. He's not infallible, but then are any of us?*

*Bruce Kimmel excepted, natch. He's right about EVERYTHING, and he'll probably tell God he's doing it wrong when he eventually gets to meet him....just kidding, Bruce!

dvdmike · 03-26-2015, 10:18 PM

Said for years, Harris is one of the Kings of photochemical, but feels out of touch with digital.
His love of dracula lost me

Professor Echo · 03-26-2015, 10:23 PM

Harris should stick to restoring films, not attempting to write about them. But I will say one thing for him: He and Kimmel and a few others drove me away from HTF to come over here, for which I am eternally grateful. BluRay.com is a lot of fun.

dvdmike · 03-26-2015, 10:25 PM

He will always side with studios and directors, that's kinda his job

Bad Sandwich · 03-26-2015, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

He also says that the Sony BDs are being mastered according to a new spec.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...ray/?p=4211699

Even if that were the case, adjusting our monitors does not reveal the detail that was destroyed by the black crush.

I just took a lil' gander at that htf thread and Will Krupp, whoever that is, totally dominates it. Or at least the last page or so. Well done Krupp! hehe

mzupeman · 03-27-2015, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jscoggins

He also says that the Sony BDs are being mastered according to a new spec.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...ray/?p=4211699

Even if that were the case, adjusting our monitors does not reveal the detail that was destroyed by the black crush.

COULD be. MAY be.

No offense, but this is precisely how misinformation gets started and inevitably gets names dragged through the mud. The man is making an educated guess, you pass it off as fact, and then it gets people to go a little bananas.

Please read what's actually written, and not what you think it's saying.

BONKERS · 03-27-2015, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

In all fairness those comments work both ways. I think we should be a little more kind.

True to an extent.(Mostly true)

If you've ever seen reviews on HDTVTEST.co.uk. When calibrating for film material they always calibrate to 2.4 now.

Which imo is crazy. There's no way these films could be mastered to 2.4, because they are already too dark by 2.2 standards along with black crush. Viewing these on a display set to 2.4 is just gonna be even worse.

shrex · 03-27-2015, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I think the first screen here really summarizes the issue. Looks terrible.

Jamie Lee Curtis' hair is super black as well in one cap, ugh.

Blu-21 · 03-27-2015, 02:23 AM

Black crush aside, My Girl looks damn good. Huge upgrade over the DVD.

03-26-2015, 06:44 PM	#601
Professor Echo Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:2	I've skipped over this thread for days thinking it was about a SONY released movie called BLACK CRUSH that I never heard of and had no interest in.

03-26-2015, 07:24 PM	#607
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:996 Blu-ray collection:3682 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	In all fairness those comments work both ways. I think we should be a little more kind.

03-26-2015, 10:18 PM	#613
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	Said for years, Harris is one of the Kings of photochemical, but feels out of touch with digital. His love of dracula lost me

03-26-2015, 10:23 PM	#614
Professor Echo Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2011 Trading Score:2	Harris should stick to restoring films, not attempting to write about them. But I will say one thing for him: He and Kimmel and a few others drove me away from HTF to come over here, for which I am eternally grateful. BluRay.com is a lot of fun.

03-26-2015, 10:25 PM	#615
dvdmike Banned Member since:Jun 2010 Blu-ray collection:1069	He will always side with studios and directors, that's kinda his job

03-27-2015, 02:23 AM	#620
Blu-21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	Black crush aside, My Girl looks damn good. Huge upgrade over the DVD.

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