Black Panther 4K UHD (2018)

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Pretty hilarious to see people claim the Academy has become political in recent years. It literally always has been, throughout history. All art is inherently political anyway.

So why are people complaining about it NOW?

[Poya]

Come on. We ALL know why THIS was nominated...

...

[Show spoiler]because it was good.

[Kubrick0730]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Pretty hilarious to see people claim the Academy has become political in recent years. It literally always has been, throughout history. All art is inherently political anyway.

It’s crazy all you have to look at is Martin Scorsese’s career didn’t win for Raging Bull in 1980 but was voted the best picture of the whole decade!! Goodfellas in 1990 was also robbed, Dances with Wolves was great but Goodfellas influenced a whole generation of filmmakers at the time. Look at Kubrick arguably one of the greatest filmmakers of all time but no Oscar.

[Poya]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

Pretty hilarious to see people claim the Academy has become political in recent years. It literally always has been, throughout history. All art is inherently political anyway.

Yeah, that Master of Disguise movie. Clearly the turtle scene was an allegory for how certain people are still shunned by even their own group (“Am I not turtle-y enough for the turtle club?”).

[Poya]

Originally Posted by Kubrick0730

It’s crazy all you have to look at is Martin Scorsese’s career didn’t win for Raging Bull in 1980 but was voted the best picture of the whole decade!! Goodfellas in 1990 was also robbed, Dances with Wolves was great but Goodfellas influenced a whole generation of filmmakers at the time. Look at Kubrick arguably one of the greatest filmmakers of all time but no Oscar.

Uh, Kubrick has an Oscar.

[Kubrick0730]

Originally Posted by Poya

Uh, Kubrick has an Oscar.

Special effects for 2001 none for directing or best picture

[Poya]

Originally Posted by Kubrick0730

Special effects for 2001 none for directing or best picture

Still counts.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by Poya

Still counts.

You missed the point.

[Kubrick0730]

Originally Posted by Poya

Still counts.

Kubrick made movies in every genre and mastered each and only won for special effects sounds strange to me. What about Hitchcock only got lifetime award never for any films and Vertigo is regarded as one of the best films ever, never mind all of his other films.

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by bbwiscfan

I got it as a Christmas gift so I'm looking forward to watching it in UHD. In terms of the nomination, I don't expect it to win, but the fact that it was even nominated brings back memories of The Dark Knight getting snubbed in 2008. I will never forgive the Academy for not giving that film the nomination that it deserved and I don't give a rats ass with all the "its a comic book movie bull****"; it was one of the best films that year hands down.

I agree. I still remember the feeling I had walking out of the theater playing TDK. My pulse was truly racing.


My favorite to this day is still unbreakable. Its my kind of superhero movie. I was a little sad that Split tied into it even. Sometimes sequels diminish the impact of the first - I think of the Matrix as a good example of this for me.

[jayman3]

Can't wait for Marvel to re-release with a "Best Picture" special edition.

Maybe we'll get new BTS features and that supposed 4-hour cut

[guachi]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

It's a massive blockbuster with a mostly Black cast and Black creative team. It celebrates African heritage and culture. It was a big deal in Black communities, trust me. One of my wife's best friends is Black and her entire family treated Black Panther like it was the second coming of Jesus, as did most of the people she works with in the city. It was a REALLY big deal.

Oh, absolutely. This was a movie that outgrossed every Marvel movie but Avengers 1 (adjusted for population AND ticket prices).

I live in Augusta, GA. It's about 50% black in the city itself. Wow, was the theater rocking. Just seeing being black - even fantasy superhero black - celebrated like it was along with a black director and much of the movie's music from black artists on the screen was something to be celebrated for most of the people in the audience.

Now, I only think the movie was merely good and not great but that crowd reaction was awesome. I've seen crowds get into the movie when I lived in SF (where they will boo and cheer trailers!) but never here in Augusta until Black Panther.

Combine that with the snubbing comic book movies have been getting for years and I can see why it was nominated. Though you can see by the categories it *wasn't* nominated in that it's not a particularly esteemed movie.

[guachi]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

So why are people complaining about it NOW?

No one ever complained about the politics of Hollywood in the '50s. Nope. Never.

[bradnoyes]

No one ever complained about anything until the interwebz.

[Mobe1969]

To be honest, if a movie I really liked got a nomination for best picture from the academy, it wouldn't make me like it more. Same as hearing about any movie getting a nomination - it does not make me think "I should see that". If anything, it has the opposite effect.

[Fendergopher]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I don't know who created Black Panther in the comics, but other than that doesn't this movie fit that bill? Black director and creative team, telling a story of a Black character which is a mainstream blockbuster that appeals to everyone? That's Black Panther, and that's why it is special.

I guess blockbusters like Beverly Hills Cop or I Am Legend weren't special because the director wasn't black, even though Black Panther plays things safer than those did.

Originally Posted by BluProofie

All art is inherently political anyway.

That's a pretty nuclear take, sounds like an exhausting worldview.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

To be honest, if a movie I really liked got a nomination for best picture from the academy, it wouldn't make me like it more. Same as hearing about any movie getting a nomination - it does not make me think "I should see that". If anything, it has the opposite effect.

This.

There are dozens, if not hundreds of awards and award ceremonies for various industries every year, the world over. Why do we give a f*** about this particular one? I'm not angry when my dentist doesn't win Best Dental Practice for the 3rd year running, as voted by other dentists. Actually, I probably care more about that, than the f***ing Oscars.

FYI, I'm all for positive black role models on film, as there simply aren't enough of them and I completely get how Black Panther was culturally important, but bolting on a Best Picture award to a largely mediocre superhero film is not the way to erase Hollywood's guilt over neglecting to recognise black talent for decades.

[jtu128]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

To be honest, if a movie I really liked got a nomination for best picture from the academy, it wouldn't make me like it more. Same as hearing about any movie getting a nomination - it does not make me think "I should see that". If anything, it has the opposite effect.

Same, but I don’t think critical reaction should have any impact on your feelings about a Marvel movie. They are beloved by every toddler to grandmother around the world, they aren’t exactly art films.

[Vangeli]

The Atmos mix on my favourite MCU flick is literally The Worst Atmos Mix.

[imsounoriginal]

Oscar nominations for Sound and Sound Editing, but you wouldn't know that from watching the UHD lol