Gemini Man 4K UHD 60fps (2019)

[Colson]

Originally Posted by TitusTroy

is there a noticeable difference in 120 fps vs 60 fps in terms of Gemini Man?

hopefully Gemini Man is the death knell for HFR...audiences have spoken and they don't like it

Having now watched both the 2D 60fps UHD Blu-ray and the 3D 120fps theatrical presentation, I'd say that yes, there is a difference. While the 60fps presentation is significantly sharper than the 24fps presentation in motion, the 120fps presentation is sharper than the 60fps. There is noticeable motion blur in the 60fps presentation where I saw little to none in the 120fps presentation.

That said, it is definitely a case of diminishing returns, and if we never see Gemini Man in 120fps again, it won't be too bad. I'd still prefer that future HFR movies were done in 120fps, though, as there is certainly a noticeable difference, even if it's much smaller than the difference between 24fps and 60fps.

[RockyIII]

24fps is caveman stuff at this point. We want 8K. We want HDR. We want WCG up the wazhoo. But when it comes to motion we rather stay back by 100 years!

[LoSouL]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

or add CG to the faces of humans to make them look like cats, and one's head simply explodes from incomprehension

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[TitusTroy]

Originally Posted by Colson

Having now watched both the 2D 60fps UHD Blu-ray and the 3D 120fps theatrical presentation, I'd say that yes, there is a difference. While the 60fps presentation is significantly sharper than the 24fps presentation in motion, the 120fps presentation is sharper than the 60fps. There is noticeable motion blur in the 60fps presentation where I saw little to none in the 120fps presentation

how much of the difference is due to watching it in 3D versus 2D?

[Colson]

Originally Posted by TitusTroy

how much of the difference is due to watching it in 3D versus 2D?

I thought 3D was much more comfortable at high framerates than it is at 24fps, but my above comments were purely in regards to the framerate, and I don't think the 3D affected things like motion clarity.

For what it's worth, I liked the 3D, but I'm just as happy with 2D.

[jrcorwin3]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

Billy Lynn was an instant classic. I own it in both 4K HFR and 3D.

Only if by “instant classic” you mean...virtually unknown, forgotten and irrelevant.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by RockyIII

I use dejudder or trumotion at max level on movies in 60fps like this and Billy Lynn to mimic 120fps

How does Billy Lynn's look with motion interpolation at 120 fps? Is there any sign of judder? Is the difference between native 60 fps and interpolated 120 fps very noticiable?

[StingingVelvet]

Kinda looking forward to my first 60fps experience. I used to hate the idea, but recently I upgraded my gaming monitor to a 144hz model and playing games at 144fps has been pretty revelatory. Now 60fps feels super choppy, let alone 30 or 24. I know games aren't movies, but I dunno... it has me mildly interested, if nothing else.

[tyrok]

[BrownianMotion]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Kinda looking forward to my first 60fps experience. I used to hate the idea, but recently I upgraded my gaming monitor to a 144hz model and playing games at 144fps has been pretty revelatory. Now 60fps feels super choppy, let alone 30 or 24. I know games aren't movies, but I dunno... it has me mildly interested, if nothing else.

HFR worked pretty well in both Billy Lynn and Gemini Man. I got a chance to see the Gemini Man UHD early, and it looks great. I don't think you'll be disappointed by the technology.

Hopefully you can make it through the movie, though. Much easier said than done.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by eddievanhalen

How does Billy Lynn's look with motion interpolation at 120 fps? Is there any sign of judder? Is the difference between native 60 fps and interpolated 120 fps very noticiable?

No motion artefacts when cranking motion interpolation on 60fps source. Unlike with 24fps sources where motion interpolation even at minimum level will create all kind of motion artefacts and anomalies

[Alister_M]

Originally Posted by BrownianMotion

Hopefully you can make it through the movie, though. Much easier said than done.

Going from the synopsis, it looks like a bit of a mishmash of The One and Looper

[MaxxPower]

Originally Posted by TheSweetieMan

I've yet to personally see anything that would make me want to watch a lot of films in HFR, but I am always willing to keep an open mind.

After seeing this, I agree. As I started watching, I didn't realize it was 60fps, I thought I had the motion settings set way too high on my TV (they're usually off). Once I realized the movie was SUPPOSED to look like that, it really cheapened the experience because it reminded me of a soap opera or a cheesy made-for-tv movie. CGI backgrounds stand out like sore thumbs, so much more noticeable than at 24fps that it just makes the whole feel of the movie...well...cheap. Technically, the overall LOOK of it is jaw-dropping, but I think we are so conditioned to seeing movies at 24fps that seeing a presentation like this can affect perception of what we're supposed to be seeing. To me, this presentation affected the acting the most. For some reason it made the actors seem less credible and competent, almost amateurish. I need to see it at 24fps which I'm sure will give it a more "realistic" feel as far as the feel of a standard movie is concerned. But for now, for me, HFR seems like it will distract from the actual enjoyment of the movie rather than enhance it.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Kinda looking forward to my first 60fps experience. I used to hate the idea, but recently I upgraded my gaming monitor to a 144hz model and playing games at 144fps has been pretty revelatory. Now 60fps feels super choppy, let alone 30 or 24. I know games aren't movies, but I dunno... it has me mildly interested, if nothing else.

Video game comparison is a good one for this movie. There are all sorts of POV shots through gun sights and on vehicles, I remember thinking it almost felt like watching someone play Call of Duty lol.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Video game comparison is a good one for this movie. There are all sorts of POV shots through gun sights and on vehicles, I remember thinking it almost felt like watching someone play Call of Duty lol.

Are there a lot of them then? I get motion sickness from such things in movies

[trekky76]

Ready for my first 60fps experience too. My copy just shipped! I just hope this one doesn't spoil me the way HDR in general did.

[XavierTheaterPotato]

That actually looks pretty slick of a steelbook. This is the first time I've seen it.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Are there a lot of them then? I get motion sickness from such things in movies

Not a ton, but enough that I noticed.

[Geoff D]

thanks. Gonna order the steelbook anyway.

[RockyIII]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Kinda looking forward to my first 60fps experience.

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