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lgans316 · 05-19-2022, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

Turns out, if you are referring to FOMO. He had local dimming set to High instead of medium.

No. I don't watch Live streams.

The calibrators are replying in AVS thread which can be overwhelming for most folks but looks like light is bleeding into black bars more than ZD9 (and more than anticipated) and contrast is not so great in real world content.

At the moment I am just observing as I wanted to upgrade my ZD9 to 75/85X95K.

77A80J stays put for a while as overall I prefer it over the ZD9 for movies.

Fendergopher · 05-19-2022, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulGo

OLED TV breakthrough fixes all the tech's problems, and it's coming soon

https://www.techradar.com/news/oled-...ts-coming-soon

The common denominator for major OLED improvements seems to be to get rid of the white subpixel. Glad to see it.

lgans316 · 05-19-2022, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Fendergopher

The common denominator for major OLED improvements seems to be to get rid of the white subpixel. Glad to see it.

That's right but it takes time for tech to evolve.

To be frank, LG have been doing a great job no matter how incremental it is. We have to cut them some slack for single-handedly pioneering OLED and mass producing it. I remember seeing that tiny Sony OLED display when I lived in Japan between 2003-2008. They seem to have ditched focus on LCD TV space after ZD9. All they have been giving is higher brightness and wider viewer angles but compromising contrast and blooming control.

Although we can san WOLED tech is 8 or 9 years old, it became mainstream only since 2017. This has also prompted other companies to focus more on OLED tech and finally we are beginning to see it action.

ntotoro · 05-19-2022, 12:02 PM

Penton-Man · 05-19-2022, 06:14 PM

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/is-...#post-61686326
See ‘What Monitor Should I Buy’ in the collection of videos from the link provided in the above post ^ , which gets a little bit into considering the new LG pro monitors and how grades come out looking on different consumer TVs and other devices and why.

Start at about 9:30 timestamp with Kevin speaking from London.

lgans316 · 05-19-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DisplayCalNoob

Turns out, if you are referring to FOMO. He had local dimming set to High instead of medium.

No. Check Keep It Classy's comments and replies in AVS.

I DO BLU · 05-20-2022, 04:24 PM

I DO BLU · 05-20-2022, 09:10 PM

Penton-Man · 05-21-2022, 06:03 PM

Kaleidescape teaming up with Lutron for the ultimate home theater experience – https://www.technologydesigner.com/2...pe-and-lutron/

P.S.
If memory serves, Kris Deering

has a Kaleidescape UHD movie player in his home theater .

Penton-Man · 05-21-2022, 06:11 PM

Hoping the supply chain situation is resolved in time so as to see a UHD 5,000 nit FSI XM312U as well as some top seminars at CineGear 2022 at the LA Convention Center come this June.

lgans316 · 05-22-2022, 08:18 AM

Couple of X95K owners have already returned theirs and sticking to ZD9.

Geoff D · 05-22-2022, 11:47 AM

Yeah I’ve cooled off considerably on the X95K. I think I really will have the ZD9 until it dies.

DJR662 · 05-22-2022, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah I’ve cooled off considerably on the X95K. I think I really will have the ZD9 until it dies.

X95K is off my list, too.

Remainig candidates: 85Z9K and 65A95K.

MechaGodzilla · 05-22-2022, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah I’ve cooled off considerably on the X95K. I think I really will have the ZD9 until it dies.

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Originally Posted by DJR662

X95K is off my list, too.

Remainig candidates: 85Z9K and 65A95K.

The two TVs that interested me most this year were the X95K and A95K for LCD and OLED respectively.

Now, there are some mixed impressions on the X95K. Some of the claims, if they are to be believed, are kind of discouraging. One of those YouTube guys - I think it was Classy? - said the blooming in the black bars is worse on the X95K than the X95J, which frankly seems bizarre to me. I mean, the X95J has 60 zones to work with in 65" for example, where the 65" X95K allegedly has 432 zones. That doesn't seem right, and if it is then it's obviously the algorithm that's the cause.

For the A95K, it should certainly outperform its Samsung counterpart the S95B in many ways, such as processing. But for the underlying panel itself, I have some misgivings. I must admit, I allowed myself to fall for some of the hype about QD-OLED being literal perfection and got excited. Well, now Rtings and Vinnie-the-Tooh are bringing it down to earth, with Rtings noting in their review of the S95B: "Like all OLED panels, there are thin vertical lines in near-dark scenes, and they're a bit more noticeable than on similar OLEDs like the LG C2 OLED. There's also a noticeable Venetian blind effect in darker scenes. It's mainly noticeable in 10% and 20% gray slides, but it's generally not noticeable with real content."

Eh, I'm not in a rush, I can be patient and wait. There are more reviews to come, and as people buy and use these TVs over the coming months, more will be uncovered and learned - both good and bad. And I guess I have to remind myself there isn't going to be such a thing as the perfect TV, but "best thing on the market currently" could still be pretty good.

avs commenter · 05-22-2022, 04:41 PM

Mini led is not the answer. Too bright for dimming zones to work effectively.

lgans316 · 05-22-2022, 05:21 PM

A glowing review...

Shame that Sony really dropped the ball.

Will be interesting to see how A95K and LZ2000 would turn out.

MechaGodzilla · 05-22-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

A glowing review...

Shame that Sony really dropped the ball.

Will be interesting to see how A95K and LZ2000 would turn out.

https://www.youtube.com/supported_br...tube.com/watch

Link doesn't work.

lgans316 · 05-22-2022, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

Link doesn't work.

Lee A Stewart · 05-22-2022, 10:46 PM

Why microLED displays may take longer than expected to reach the market

https://www.microled-info.com/why-mi...d-reach-market

gkolb · 05-23-2022, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ntotoro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjm_zmBoxjw

That entire movie is genius.

FWIW, this scene was filmed in the very same theater where I watched this movie for the first time. The Rialto in South Pasadena, if it’s still there. Part of The Player was shot there as well.

05-21-2022, 06:03 PM	#969
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Kaleidescape teaming up with Lutron for the ultimate home theater experience – https://www.technologydesigner.com/2...pe-and-lutron/ P.S. If memory serves, Kris Deering has a Kaleidescape UHD movie player in his home theater . Last edited by Penton-Man; 05-21-2022 at 06:06 PM. Reason: added a P.S.

05-19-2022, 06:14 PM	#965
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	https://www.avsforum.com/threads/is-...#post-61686326 See ‘What Monitor Should I Buy’ in the collection of videos from the link provided in the above post ^ , which gets a little bit into considering the new LG pro monitors and how grades come out looking on different consumer TVs and other devices and why. Start at about 9:30 timestamp with Kevin speaking from London.

05-21-2022, 06:11 PM	#970
Penton-Man Retired Hollywood Insider Member since:Apr 2007	Hoping the supply chain situation is resolved in time so as to see a UHD 5,000 nit FSI XM312U as well as some top seminars at CineGear 2022 at the LA Convention Center come this June.

05-22-2022, 08:18 AM	#971
lgans316 Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Location:RM16, United Kingdom Blu-ray reviews:17 Trading Score:498	Couple of X95K owners have already returned theirs and sticking to ZD9.

05-22-2022, 11:47 AM	#972
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Yeah I’ve cooled off considerably on the X95K. I think I really will have the ZD9 until it dies.

05-22-2022, 04:41 PM	#975
avs commenter Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Apr 2018 Trading Score:8	Mini led is not the answer. Too bright for dimming zones to work effectively.

05-22-2022, 10:46 PM	#979
Lee A Stewart Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jan 2019 Location:Albuquerque, NM	Why microLED displays may take longer than expected to reach the market https://www.microled-info.com/why-mi...d-reach-market

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