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Old 08-21-2019, 02:36 PM   #3161
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"Tomorrow Never Dies" feels a lot more timely now, with it's main villain motives, compared to when it was released in the 90s.

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Old 08-21-2019, 02:40 PM   #3162
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Licence to Kill is my favourite Bond film.

You may now all click the thumbs up button.
Gladly. It's a great Bond film.

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OK, now you're trolling...
What do you mean "now"?

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Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.
I LOVE Casino Royale '67. As a Bond film? Of course not. But as a wacky, zany, hellzapoppin time capsule of the psychedelic 60s full of so bad it's good moments like when Peter Sellers' character (Trimble/Bond) goes from
[Show spoiler] pursuing the kidnapped Vesper to all of a sudden being held captive because Sellers quit the film before they could film the scenes of him actually being captured, and it doesn't make a lick of difference to the film whatsoever because it's already a big nonsensical mess.
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Old 08-21-2019, 02:51 PM   #3163
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And TWINE, in it's defence, does have an incredible (and lengthy) opening sequence.
The opening sequence was originally two separate scenes.

The 4 minute Bilbao, Spain opening segment was the original pre-credits sequence with the Millennium Dome chase following after the titles. Test audiences felt that the bank scene, with Bond rappelling out of the window and nonchalantly walking off with the briefcase full of money was not impactful enough. The London chase was brought forward and added to the existing scene, giving us a pre-credit sequence which now clocks in at a lengthy 14+ minutes.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:07 PM   #3164
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"Tomorrow Never Dies" feels a lot more timely now, with it's main villain motives, compared to when it was released in the 90s.
I honestly really disliked TND when it originally came out. Over the years I've grown to really enjoy it and now that it's aged it feels like a classic Bond movie.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:14 PM   #3165
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The opening sequence was originally two separate scenes.

The 4 minute Bilbao, Spain opening segment was the original pre-credits sequence with the Millennium Dome chase following after the titles. Test audiences felt that the bank scene, with Bond rappelling out of the window and nonchalantly walking off with the briefcase full of money was not impactful enough. The London chase was brought forward and added to the existing scene, giving us a pre-credit sequence which now clocks in at a lengthy 14+ minutes.
That makes sense. I remember feeling like that opening was two parts.
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:17 PM   #3166
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The 4 minute Bilbao, Spain opening segment was the original pre-credits sequence with the Millennium Dome chase following after the titles. Test audiences felt that the bank scene, with Bond rappelling out of the window and nonchalantly walking off with the briefcase full of money was not impactful enough.
That would have been quite underwhelming. On this occasion, thank goodness for test screening.
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Old 08-21-2019, 04:26 PM   #3167
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So, since I'm a noob with James Bond films, which ones should I start with?
Start from the beginning. Watch the first 3 and continue if you like them. Dr. No, From Russia with Love and Goldfinger. You can also watch Casino Royale (2006) that rebooted the series.
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Old 08-21-2019, 05:08 PM   #3168
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That would have been quite underwhelming. On this occasion, thank goodness for test screening.
You're spot-on - the cards came back, essentially saying "Is that it? He jumps out a window and walks off?!?"
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Old 08-22-2019, 12:19 AM   #3169
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The opening sequence is one of the series' best. I remember seeing it at the cinema (opening day, natch) and thinking 'blimey, what's the rest going to be like?' I liked the film then and I like it now. Denise Richards isn't enough to spoilt it for me.
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:14 AM   #3170
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Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.
It's a genuine period piece of op-art, as opposed to being a weak-kneed recreation like AUSTIN POWERS. It might be dumb as a rock, but the look is really astonishing -- which is kind of how I think of EVENT HORIZON, now that I think about it.
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:18 AM   #3171
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I honestly really disliked TND when it originally came out. Over the years I've grown to really enjoy it and now that it's aged it feels like a classic Bond movie.
TND was the first Bond movie I skipped in theaters, and I never regretted that. Even when I first saw it on homevid, I find myself fastforwarding all through the 2nd half of the film. Even now I don't think I've ever been able to see it straight through, though I've tried half-a-dozen times. I really like Arnold's score in the PTS, but have a hard time believing much of this outside of Edifice Complex and the Kane reference is actually a Nick Meyer rewrite. How bad was it before he came on?
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Old 08-22-2019, 05:04 AM   #3172
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TND was the first Bond movie I skipped in theaters, and I never regretted that. Even when I first saw it on homevid, I find myself fastforwarding all through the 2nd half of the film. Even now I don't think I've ever been able to see it straight through, though I've tried half-a-dozen times. I really like Arnold's score in the PTS, but have a hard time believing much of this outside of Edifice Complex and the Kane reference is actually a Nick Meyer rewrite. How bad was it before he came on?
I'm really not a big Brosnan fan, overall, but TND is fun. It's fast-paced, it's got a megalomaniacal villain (a "Boo! Hiss!" cross-section of Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch and Bill Gates), cool stunts, some larger-than-life set-pieces, and Michelle Yeoh, who is a beautiful (not to mention kick-ass) Bond girl.

007 films should be fun. TND is fun! As much as I love James Bond, I'd argue that every damn film in the series has flaws, from a writing standpoint, if you want to nit-pick. Just grab some popcorn, the drink of your choice, and enjoy, and don't over-think it!
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Old 08-22-2019, 07:44 AM   #3173
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Sometimes I think about buying the original Casino Royale on blu-ray. Then I come to my senses.
That's the only Bond film I really don't have any interest in owning.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:03 AM   #3174
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The World is Not Enough is probably my favorite Brosnan film. The nostalgia is nearly as strong for it as for Goldeneye. The opening is terrific and Carlyle and Marceau are wonderful villains. It's inventive and fun and Brosnan really owns the role. And I've never had a problem with Richards really. It's a damn near perfect Bond for me. Serious when it needs to be, playful at times, with a little bit of cheese thrown in. And a terrific theme song and score by Arnold.
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Old 08-22-2019, 02:39 PM   #3175
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Goldeneye is still, for me at least, easily the best of the Brosnan series. It's the only one that doesn't really suffer from the 'third act syndrome' which plagued his tenure. The other movies look and sound good, due in no small part to a fantastic central performance, David Arnold channeling John Barry to perfection and some excellent stunt work, but they all fizzle out towards the end.

The least said about Die Another Day however, the better IMHO.
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Old 08-22-2019, 03:06 PM   #3176
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D.A.D. starts off as a legitimately good movie with little-no stupid moments....and then at the literal 30 minute mark quickly evolves into something awful.
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Yeah I think DAD is fine until M recruits Bond back into the Service in that abandoned Underground station. After that scene, it becomes... DAD lol
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Old 08-22-2019, 06:49 PM   #3178
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Basically as soon as Madonna starts teaching fencing.
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Old 08-23-2019, 12:18 AM   #3179
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Yeah I think DAD is fine until M recruits Bond back into the Service in that abandoned Underground station.
For me when Bond goes to Panama is when it all starts to slide.

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Basically as soon as Madonna starts teaching fencing.
Actually, I rather liked that fight scene.
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Old 08-23-2019, 01:50 AM   #3180
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Watching Pierce Brosnan in fits of laughter at how ludicrous DAD was in the Everything Or Nothing documentary is priceless.
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