Movie Posters Discussion Thread

[Silverwing]

How much do frames usually go for. If you look at my HT pictures, I have some of the blockbuster poster that come framed, and I also have cheap walmart ones that (although again are extremely cheap) they don't look too bad up.

Anyways, I was just curious the average price for frames, and if anyone has a link to a site that sells them at a good price, let me know! Thanks

On another side note, I love that Blade Runner poster that I just saw above this post. Great job

[househead]

nice pickup on that Mean Maxine poster guys. She is one badass mofo!

[PUsokrJosh305]

Hey, got another question Kinsella5. For many years, I have owned a Prisoner of Azkaban poster that I got from the WBshop a long time ago. When this arrived, the poster had a constant indention all across one side of the poster. Of course, I had to accept that and move on. Recently, I decided to re-buy this poster from movieposter.com. The poster looks almost the same except it has the PG rating on it rather than no rating. Can you confirm that WB released an official poster with a rating on it. The poster doesn't look like it's a reprint because it's comparably the same to the WBshop poster, except the writing is a bit smaller to accommodate the PG rating. If this truly is a reprint, I need to contact movieposter.com about it, hope you can help me!!!

[phansson]

I'll chime in. Movieposter sells a TON of remakes, fakes, reprints (whatever you want to call it). You have to be really careful and read the description. If it doesn't say original theatrical release, it isn't.

Try to buy from reputable dealers whenever you can.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by phansson

I'll chime in. Movieposter sells a TON of remakes, fakes, reprints (whatever you want to call it). You have to be really careful and read the description. If it doesn't say original theatrical release, it isn't.

Try to buy from reputable dealers whenever you can.

Well, it says original in the description, so I'm assuming it is, but again I haven't seen any Prisoner Of Azkaban poster pics with a rating at the bottom, unless if they never released the pics of them.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by MiC. HD

Hi, I have a couple questions about movie posters, forgive me I'm new to this. First, what's the difference between single sided and double sided posters? Is it literally a double sided image, or just a better quality build? Also, what would be the best type of frame to house (for example) a 27x40. Thanks in advance and my apologies if this has already been discussed.

Roar pretty much answered this question and did a great job but I want to add some more information that may help you out and others here too. The term "double-sided" used to be enough when determining an original vs. a reproduction/fake but unfortunately over the years a few individuals and dealers have put out double-sided fakes onto the market, and in my opinion, there is no logical reason why to do this other than to try and pawn off fakes as originals to unsuspecting collectors, both new and old. There were double-sided fakes of the recalled Spider-Man advance, and several other films. Another big film that had double-sided fakes is The Dark Knight, in particular the advance style "B" Joker style (Why So Serious?) which was the only style original that featured The Joker on it. That poster was released to theaters in early December 2007, Ledger passed away in early 2008, so the frenzy from his death is what caused the market to dry up on the authentic ones, some dealers planned ahead and had them in stock for the demand (which also drove the prices up) while other dealers weren't able to get them, or had sold out of their stock. A certain movie poster dealer in Canada (not MoviePoster.com by the way) started putting out double-sided reproductions, I noticed eBay sellers offering them and after contacting each of them they all admitted that they bought from the dealer in question. I contacted the dealer who was selling them on their site, and admitted they were double-sided but also were reproductions. This dealer is well known for selling reproductions, many speculate they are making themselves.

Within the five years though, double-sided movie posters have changed their appearance in that the backside is now lighter than the front. It used to be that the backside of a double-sided original was the same color consistency on the backside as the front, however, now the back is a lighter shade, but still double-sided. For the Dark Knight, using that film as an example, the first two styles (advance style A and B) had the same color consistency on the back as the front, and then starting around March 2008, the remaining Dark Knight styles (Final styles A and B) featured this new lighter backside to them, in fact all of the posters from that particular studio did as well. When I say lighter, I don't mean brighter, I mean it is just a few shades lighter than the front. This is the case for most, if not all, of the double-sided originals that are distributed to theaters from movie studios.

The purpose of the studios making the posters lighter on the backside in MY opinion is probably the fact that for the light box frames, the light can shine through the the poster highlighting the front image better with it being a lighter shade on the back. If you placed a black piece of paper in front of a light bulb and also a white sheet of paper, more light will shine through the white paper and make it stand out more so than the black sheet of paper. Another reason could possibly be to help determine fakes from originals, but this reason probably is more far-fetched than the first reason. Since original movie posters are not made for public sale, I would suspect the studios aren't making the posters lighter for collector's peace of mind if you know what I mean.

Double-sided posters as Roar mentioned tend to be on a higher quality stock paper as well, a good example is the Blade Runner: Final Cut style from 2007. The double-sided version is extremely rare and is on a thicker stock paper, whereas the single-sided style, while still original, are on a thinner grade paper. From a collector's stand point, I would recommend double-sided any day of the week, but you really need to be careful because there are a lot of reprints/fakes out there for movie posters. While I can't openly promote my business here on the forums, if you have any questions you can contact me via private message here.

When it comes to framing, all of my originals that are double-sided that I have framed I simply have professionally framed with acid-free backing board and ultra-violet glass. Some recommend plexi-glass as well, but I recommend acid-free backing. As long as it is, I do recommend going back and re-reading this entire thread, there is a lot of helpful people that have posted. Never dry mount a poster though, because that is a permanent process, and that is when a framer affixes the poster to foam board to take out the wrinkles, trust me you don't want to do that, it devalues the poster greatly, so you would want it loose between the glass and the backing of the frame.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Well, movieposter.com has the Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part:2 "heroes" poster up, I'm probably gonna purchase it. And as said before, I do think in the next couple of weeks, we will see the final style of the Deathly Hallows poster because the one just released not too long ago doesn't even have Deathly Hallows written on it. Just, it all ends 7/15. Plus, it doesn't have any credits on it. I can't wait till the final one comes out. It will be the end of a movie series that has lasted about a decade!!

With the film 13 days away, I will be surprised if they release another style to theaters. They could simply release the 2nd advance (aka heroes style) with credits at the last minute and call it a "final" style, but with each day that goes by, it seems more and more unlikely. It certainly would be odd if a final style with credits isn't released though. For those who are fans of Harry Potter though, until another style is released, IF that happens, go back a page on this thread and you will see the actual authentic original poster images for HP and the Deathly Hallows Parts 1 and 2. If the image isn't listen then it's not an original movie poster.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by MAD7334

How much do frames usually go for. If you look at my HT pictures, I have some of the blockbuster poster that come framed, and I also have cheap walmart ones that (although again are extremely cheap) they don't look too bad up.

Anyways, I was just curious the average price for frames, and if anyone has a link to a site that sells them at a good price, let me know! Thanks

On another side note, I love that Blade Runner poster that I just saw above this post. Great job

Mad, frame-wise, it really depends on how much you want to spend. Check out my most recent post about framing that appears on page 58 of this thread, I also talked about it in an earlier posting on this thread too. You can try Michael's Arts & Crafts or Aaron Brothers framing as they tend to have frames around $30, but both retailers tend to run coupons in the Sunday newspaper every so often too. But you have some rare posters, I'd go with a professional framer, just don't have them foam board it, you would want it loose between the backing of the frame.

Yes that Blade Runner: Final Style is a very beautiful poster, one of my favorites by Drew Struzan, the artist who retired from the business a few years ago. The double-sided version is getting extreme hard to find, even single-sided originals are getting difficult to find too. Both will continue to rise in value, as the film has a huge following and the artwork is simply amazing.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Hey, got another question Kinsella5. For many years, I have owned a Prisoner of Azkaban poster that I got from the WBshop a long time ago. When this arrived, the poster had a constant indention all across one side of the poster. Of course, I had to accept that and move on. Recently, I decided to re-buy this poster from movieposter.com. The poster looks almost the same except it has the PG rating on it rather than no rating. Can you confirm that WB released an official poster with a rating on it. The poster doesn't look like it's a reprint because it's comparably the same to the WBshop poster, except the writing is a bit smaller to accommodate the PG rating. If this truly is a reprint, I need to contact movieposter.com about it, hope you can help me!!!

It's hard to say one way or the other without seeing the poster itself, but there is a chance that perhaps you got an International version from the dealer in question, and got a U.S. style from WBShop.com. Was there any other differences between the posters, such as the release date, does one say the actual June date, and does one say just the year? Generally when a studio goes with the same artwork for the U.S. and International styles the wording will be the same as the U.S. style will have the actual release date.

Also, while I have never looked into posters from WBShop, there is a chance they had a special print run made for sale via their online store, which goes against the "originals aren't made for public sale", so in this case, it sounds like the poster you got from MoviePoster.com is original, and perhaps the one from WBShop is a specially made poster for sale via their online store. I do know that the Star Wars official website offered a double-sided final style for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull movie poster for sale through their web store, but their poster featured a ratings box on it whereas the poster that was shipped to theaters didn't have a ratings box on it. This was because the film had not been rated yet and they needed to get the poster out to theaters so they printed up the poster without knowing the rating of the film. Once the rating was determined, the online store offered a limited amount of the poster with the rating box on it, but from a collector's standpoint the style without the date was a theatrical original. Also Lucasfilm tends to put a watermark on the back of the originals that are sent to theaters, which is an anti-counterfeit Lucasfilm logo seen under light. This started with the prequel posters, not all of them have this on them, but some of them do, and again with the final style for Indiana Jones IV.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by phansson

I'll chime in. Movieposter sells a TON of remakes, fakes, reprints (whatever you want to call it). You have to be really careful and read the description. If it doesn't say original theatrical release, it isn't.

Try to buy from reputable dealers whenever you can.

I think Phansson meant to say "MovieGoods.com", and not MoviePoster.com. MovieGoods is very notorious for selling a large amount of fakes, and also selling under different sites such as MoviePosterShop.com and PopCultureGraphics.com, as well on eBay and Amazon. MoviePoster.com is a good dealer, they sell originals and also reproductions but also do a good job of stating which is an original and which is a reproduction, unlike MovieGoods. The only issue I have noticed with MoviePoster.com is they don't properly title a poster with the correct name, such as domestic or international, but all in all, they are a reputable dealer.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Well, it says original in the description, so I'm assuming it is, but again I haven't seen any Prisoner Of Azkaban poster pics with a rating at the bottom, unless if they never released the pics of them.

Sometimes a "stock" image is used by poster dealers to advertise a poster, and there are times when a stock image that is released isn't 100% accurate. One example of this is the first advance style "A" movie poster for The Dark Knight. The stock image that was first released before the poster hit theaters stated at the bottom "2008" but the actual posters stated "Summer 2008" at the bottom. I remember seeing someone selling one on eBay claiming theirs was ultra-rare because theirs said "Summer 2008" but told everyone that the actual poster said "2008" because they saw the stock image and thought it was the poster image, so they felt theirs was really rare because theirs said Summer 2008. I contacted the seller and explained it to them but they didn't listen, yet again a big reason why most of the eBay sellers have no idea what they are selling, and aren't in the movie poster business.

[roar]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

I think Phansson meant to say "MovieGoods.com", and not MoviePoster.com. MovieGoods is very notorious for selling a large amount of fakes, and also selling under different sites such as MoviePosterShop.com and PopCultureGraphics.com, as well on eBay and Amazon. MoviePoster.com is a good dealer, they sell originals and also reproductions but also do a good job of stating which is an original and which is a reproduction, unlike MovieGoods. The only issue I have noticed with MoviePoster.com is they don't properly title a poster with the correct name, such as domestic or international, but all in all, they are a reputable dealer.

I was actually in the movieposter.com shop today... I love going in there, I could flip through movie posters for hours. An added bonus was a sweet looking diablo in the parking lot out front. I was going to park my Mazda 5 next to it, but I didn't want to make the guy nervous

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

It's hard to say one way or the other without seeing the poster itself, but there is a chance that perhaps you got an International version from the dealer in question, and got a U.S. style from WBShop.com. Was there any other differences between the posters, such as the release date, does one say the actual June date, and does one say just the year? Generally when a studio goes with the same artwork for the U.S. and International styles the wording will be the same as the U.S. style will have the actual release date.

Also, while I have never looked into posters from WBShop, there is a chance they had a special print run made for sale via their online store, which goes against the "originals aren't made for public sale", so in this case, it sounds like the poster you got from MoviePoster.com is original, and perhaps the one from WBShop is a specially made poster for sale via their online store. I do know that the Star Wars official website offered a double-sided final style for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull movie poster for sale through their web store, but their poster featured a ratings box on it whereas the poster that was shipped to theaters didn't have a ratings box on it. This was because the film had not been rated yet and they needed to get the poster out to theaters so they printed up the poster without knowing the rating of the film. Once the rating was determined, the online store offered a limited amount of the poster with the rating box on it, but from a collector's standpoint the style without the date was a theatrical original. Also Lucasfilm tends to put a watermark on the back of the originals that are sent to theaters, which is an anti-counterfeit Lucasfilm logo seen under light. This started with the prequel posters, not all of them have this on them, but some of them do, and again with the final style for Indiana Jones IV.

The only difference I saw was that the lettering for the credit bill for the actors and actresses are smaller to accommodate the PG rating and not as blue/white as the WBshop one . Everything else looks the same, even the date is right, June 4th.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

The only difference I saw was that the lettering for the credit bill for the actors and actresses are smaller to accommodate the PG rating and not as blue/white as the WBshop one . Everything else looks the same, even the date is right, June 4th.

It could be as I mentioned that WBShop was selling a specially printed poster up for their site, while the one you got from MoviePoster.com was the actual theatrical style. I can't remember that HP poster in question, simply too many HP posters to begin with.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by roar

I was actually in the movieposter.com shop today... I love going in there, I could flip through movie posters for hours. An added bonus was a sweet looking diablo in the parking lot out front. I was going to park my Mazda 5 next to it, but I didn't want to make the guy nervous

If there was a Diablo in the parking lot and was driven by someone who works there, then I must be doing something wrong as I drive a Taurus and I am in the same business as them.

[jra166]

Priced for Collectors, but one of my favorite sites for classic movie posters. Heritage Auctions.

movieposters.ha.com

Free to Register, and once registered you can download very high rez images. I've used these images to create my own custom posters/artwork. They got some rare and nice stuff.

[N8DOGG]

One of my favorite sites, but they're not for purchase. Great browsing material. Their poster collection is ridiculous...

http://www.wrongsideoftheart.com/

[roar]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

If there was a Diablo in the parking lot and was driven by someone who works there, then I must be doing something wrong as I drive a Taurus and I am in the same business as them.

Oh I'm sure it wasn't for anyone in movieposter.com. Their store front is in the back of a strip plaza, not the nicest location in Toronto, there is a gym next door so I'm guessing the owner of the car was in there. In the 20 minutes I was there 3 people did buy posters though so I'd say the store front is worth their effort. My dad was looking for a new one and wanted to check out the 3 Bull Durham's they had, the reprint, the one with markings and the mint one, $16, $150 and $300 respectively. He wasn't happy with the coloring of the reprint when it was up against the originals but I wouldn't let him buy the $150 one when he was planning on plaquing it anyway. So he picked up the Johnny depp on stranger tides one instead.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by jra166

Priced for Collectors, but one of my favorite sites for classic movie posters. Heritage Auctions.

movieposters.ha.com

Free to Register, and once registered you can download very high rez images. I've used these images to create my own custom posters/artwork. They got some rare and nice stuff.

Speaking of Heritage, this is from a few years ago:

http://www.originalprop.com/blog/200...-manipulation/

and one of the lawsuits by Disney against MovieGoods:

http://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/c...s-inc/summary/

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

It could be as I mentioned that WBShop was selling a specially printed poster up for their site, while the one you got from MoviePoster.com was the actual theatrical style. I can't remember that HP poster in question, simply too many HP posters to begin with.

lol!! So very true, thanks again for your input in the matter!!