Movie Posters Discussion Thread

[roar]

Originally Posted by vvox

how much does it cost to frame a poster?

Anywhere from $25 - $250+ I'd say.

Really depends what you are framing and what you want it to look like frammed and where you live.

Custom framing is a lot more money than a frame you could buy at Walmart or Michaels, but it also gives a different (Some would argue better) look by adding matting and anti-glare glass with acid free backing and a plethora of frame colours/styles.

If you catch Michael's on the right day with the right coupon's (I hate their business practices) you could probably get something in the 27x40 range, no matting, plastic not glass in front in the <$50 range.

I mention where you live because custom framing is cheaper in the states than it is in Canada like most things I suppose, I got a triple matte, anti-glare glass and simple metal frame for a couple of 24x36 prints of mine done for around $250 each.

[cto15]

does anybody know where I could get acid free backing for my poster frames?

Right now I'm using those cheap Michael's Trendless ones (I only get them on sale when they are 40-50% off and there is an additional 15-25% coupon as well) and I would like to get some acid free backing as a temporary measure until I come up with the cash for a real nice custom frame job

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by cto15

does anybody know where I could get acid free backing for my poster frames?

Right now I'm using those cheap Michael's Trendless ones (I only get them on sale when they are 40-50% off and there is an additional 15-25% coupon as well) and I would like to get some acid free backing as a temporary measure until I come up with the cash for a real nice custom frame job

You can talk with a frame store in your area, see if they can sell you any but the problem you may face is that the acid-free foam board backing may not fit inside the frames you bought along with the poster. Your posters should be fine though without the acid-free backing until you are ready to spend the money to have them professionally framed, would hate to see you buy the foam board only to find it not fitting, etc.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by badz

Hey guys, has anyone ever seen this image in poster form? I think it's such an iconic image and I'd love to frame it.

Nope, that doesn't exist as a poster, looks like a screen grab from the film. I still need to rent Tron Legacy, never got around to seeing it in the theaters. A guy that worked on the film got some of the posters from me for him and some of the other effects artists, he said even they could not get the posters. ;-)

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Evilpenguinj

Hey Everyone

I love following this thread. Does anyone know if they sell reprint's on older posters that are double sided. I have a lighted poster box and would love to get reprints of Star wars or Indiana Jones just to display, and not for there collector value.

Thanks!

Jason

Double-sided didn't start until around 1988 so you won't find any of the original Star Wars or Indiana Jones posters double-sided except possibly Last Crusade which was 1989. Some studios such as Miramax didn't start doing double-sided until 1995. The last Indiana Jones films, as well as the Star Wars special editions and the prequel films do have double sided ones though as well. You won't find the original trilogy and first two Indy Jones as double sided, if you do, they are more than likely unauthorized reprints, as I can't imagine a reason for the studios to even print then double-sided as reprints. But sadly double-sided reprints for more current films do exist, so you have to really be on your toes because dishonesty runs rampant in this industry.

[badz]

Originally Posted by Kinsella5

Nope, that doesn't exist as a poster, looks like a screen grab from the film. I still need to rent Tron Legacy, never got around to seeing it in the theaters. A guy that worked on the film got some of the posters from me for him and some of the other effects artists, he said even they could not get the posters. ;-)

Thanks for the response Kinsella5. It's too bad I really think that could have been a sweet poster!

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by badz

Thanks for the response Kinsella5. It's too bad I really think that could have been a sweet poster!

Yeah perhaps so, I was hoping the Tron Legacy posters had an emphasis on the bikes, but only the advance style for the domestic release did. There was also an International style that did featuring the two bikes crashing into each other, but overall any of the posters they did were difficult for dealers to get.

[Allforce]

Is there anything inherently "bad" about purchasing a reprint of a poster or is it just something that's looked down upon by collectors who only purchase originals? Is it a situation where this is basically piracy and the studio/artist is losing money on every non-original poster that is out there being sold?

I can understand the appeal to some people wanting to buy an original print and that being a big thing for them but I also see the appeal of just buying reprints if you like the artwork and want it up in your home somewhere and don't want to pay the serious amounts of cash that originals go for.

Just curious if it's something that's actually illegal or just looked at as immoral or dishonest by those who value the original prints more, as the latter seems to be the general attitude in this thread at least.

[roar]

Originally Posted by Allforce

Is there anything inherently "bad" about purchasing a reprint of a poster or is it just something that's looked down upon by collectors who only purchase originals? Is it a situation where this is basically piracy and the studio/artist is losing money on every non-original poster that is out there being sold?

I can understand the appeal to some people wanting to buy an original print and that being a big thing for them but I also see the appeal of just buying reprints if you like the artwork and want it up in your home somewhere and don't want to pay the serious amounts of cash that originals go for.

Just curious if it's something that's actually illegal or just looked at as immoral or dishonest by those who value the original prints more, as the latter seems to be the general attitude in this thread at least.

I won't look down on you But I'm hardly a collector. I think without a doubt copyrights are being broken and the money is going straight into the pockets of the people who are reproducing rather than the studios/artists but I don't think other collectors look down at people who buy reprints, to each their own imo.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Allforce

Is there anything inherently "bad" about purchasing a reprint of a poster or is it just something that's looked down upon by collectors who only purchase originals? Is it a situation where this is basically piracy and the studio/artist is losing money on every non-original poster that is out there being sold?

I can understand the appeal to some people wanting to buy an original print and that being a big thing for them but I also see the appeal of just buying reprints if you like the artwork and want it up in your home somewhere and don't want to pay the serious amounts of cash that originals go for.

Just curious if it's something that's actually illegal or just looked at as immoral or dishonest by those who value the original prints more, as the latter seems to be the general attitude in this thread at least.

There isn't anything wrong with it, but as Roar pointed out, its the illegal counterfeit unlicensed posters that I am against. I realize there are two types of people out there, one is a collector who wants only authentic originals to display and to "collect", and then there are those who don't care about collecting but just want something to put up on their walls, etc. Nothing wrong with that at all, but there are poster dealers (and non-dealers too) who take images from a film or of an existing poster and produce their own without a license. Some make them double-sided and they do so knowing that collectors prefer double-sided, so in a way they are also committing fraud by selling double-sided fakes as originals to unsuspecting collectors both seasoned veterans in this hobby, and to those just getting into it. Those that sell unlicensed reprints or knock-off's are the lowest of lows, and sadly some of the largest poster dealers out there do just that.

[Allforce]

Ok so you do in fact have to be licensed in order to print these off, I figured a ton of these are just 2 guys in a garage with an industrial sized printer. I used to have a buddy work at a place that did blueprints and huge printouts like that and he'd make me all kinds of crazy stuff during his downtime.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Allforce

Ok so you do in fact have to be licensed in order to print these off, I figured a ton of these are just 2 guys in a garage with an industrial sized printer. I used to have a buddy work at a place that did blueprints and huge printouts like that and he'd make me all kinds of crazy stuff during his downtime.

Yes legally you have to get a license to produce them. When you go to Walmart, Target, mall stores in general, you will generally find they sell smaller posters, typically around 24x36 inches, and those companies get the license to print up poster images of either actors, singers, or smaller versions of movie posters. For those that print up stuff without a license it can come back to haunt them. Just Google search MovieGoods Lawsuit and you will see Disney, 20th Century Fox and others are suing over copyright issues, etc. Its kind of like the old saying, "If you always go over the speed limit you will eventually get pulled over and ticketed" if you know what I mean.

[Underworld54]

Which internet dealers sell authorized reprints? I do not under any circumstance want to give my money to a counterfeiting operation. From here on out if there is a poster I like for a current movie them I'm going to get double sided originals. We have the pleasure to have someone in the business (Kinsella5) as a member here looking out for us. That is a tremendous resource. You're my go to guy Jon!

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Which internet dealers sell authorized reprints? I do not under any circumstance want to give my money to a counterfeiting operation. From here on out if there is a poster I like for a current movie them I'm going to get double sided originals. We have the pleasure to have someone in the business (Kinsella5) as a member here looking out for us. That is a tremendous resource. You're my go to guy Jon!

Well I am not allowed to promote myself on the forum, I was told I couldn't and I respected that decision from one of the moderators but I appreciate the kind words. Since I don't deal in reprints, its really hard for me to say which sites are authorized and licensed to sell reprints. My guess is AllPosters.com or Art.com but honestly I can't say if they are.

What I can tell you is sometimes it's actually more affordable to get an original over a reprint. I realize that is kind of hard to believe, but it's true. Let's use "The Dark Knight Rises" advance style as a reference. MovieGoods.com charges $29.99 for a reproduction that is 27x40 inches. MovieGoods has always stated if their product doesn't feature a "Authenticity Seal" at the bottom of each product page, then it is a reprint, and most of their products don't feature this "seal" if you will, therefore they are reproductions. Since reproductions (aka reprints) you find in stores are always 24x36, and poster dealers have in the past offered reprints at 26x39 inches, why would there suddenly be 27x40 inch reprints? It only confuses collectors new and old, and in my opinion is done on purpose to mislead consumers into thinking they are purchasing originals, when in fact they are purchasing a reprint. It's quite sad that some dealers have to stoop that low to make a sale, but they do.

If someone was a casual collector, they would see the MovieGoods listing, and see the 27x40 inch size, and "assume" it was an original when chances are it's not, for the mere reason they don't have their "Authentic Item" seal pictured with it. So therefore, a person is paying $30 for a reprint, and I would personally be very surprised if it was an authorized reprint at that.

Now you can spend $30 for a reprint, or you can get the original for a few dollars more "elsewhere" but remember with originals prices do rise, and the rules of supply and demand are in play, the lower the supply, and higher the demand, the more the poster will cost. Other factors will cause a poster to rise as well. You can also find the same poster but an original, being sold by a good poster seller called MovieMarket.com for $50 or from MoviePoster.com for $85 (currently after their sale discount). I still can't figure out why MoviePoster.com, who is a good dealer for the most part, still offer a Dark Knight Rises poster as "unofficial artwork" when it was nothing more than fan created artwork, but that is whole other discussion.

[Allforce]

What about reprints of those Mondo prints that are so so awesome? Or is selling reprints of those absolutely against the entire spirit of those things? :P

I'd love those Robocop and Jurassic Park ones but you cross the 30-40 dollar per-poster threshold and I'm out sadly.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by Allforce

What about reprints of those Mondo prints that are so so awesome? Or is selling reprints of those absolutely against the entire spirit of those things? :P

I'd love those Robocop and Jurassic Park ones but you cross the 30-40 dollar per-poster threshold and I'm out sadly.

Where are you seeing Mondo reprints? I know they are very protective of their prints as they are designed to be limited editions and I don't know of any authorized reprints. I informed them years ago that MovieGoods was selling reprints on their website and they had no idea and from what I had heard sent them a cease and desist letter. Robocop by Stout is really quite nice, the metal one is amazing, but those earlier Stout ones are virtually impossible to get and when they show up on eBay, they are fetching thousands of dollars. My favorite of his would be The Thing that he did in 2008 but also really like the ultra-rare Akira one he did earlier this year.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by victim

So MovieGoods is a bad place to buy from?

I was just looking at their "TV posters" and they had a few 27x40 Supernatural ones I was interested in.

Are they a "bad" place to buy from? Well if I was asked if I would ever buy from them, the answer would be "no", in fact if they were giving away stuff for free, I still wouldn't take it. Oh I am sure you can find anything you want poster wise on their site, but how much of it is official and authentic is in debate. Let's put it this way, when a poster dealer has to take images from the internet of people's personal collection and then make copies of it and sell it on their site, that is pretty sad. And that is what they have done in the past as I read not too long ago about how a poster collector had images of their collection on the net for people to view and he had each image embedded with a special logo/copyright that he placed on every image, and not long after he noticed one of his more rarer posters being sold as a reprint on their site along with the copyright he had added. Now, would an honest dealer resort to doing that? I doubt it....

But don't let me distaste for them stop you from ordering, just be cautioned that you may not get an original. TV posters are generally made for the television stations that broadcast the show, sometimes they have internal catalogs for employees of the station so they can order them for themselves but you don't see many of those get out there in the hands of dealers, etc.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by victim

What would be a good site to buy movie posters from then?

Please don't say Ebay because paypal hates me so I can't shop from them.

No I don't recommend eBay because everyone on there thinks they are a poster dealer when most have no clue whatsoever what it is they are selling. Plus condition of a poster is key, and most people who say something is "mint" really means it is in "good" or "fair" condition. And lets not forget packaging, simply putting a poster in a tube doesn't guarantee a safe trip during its journey to the buyer.

Are you mainly looking to get into original authentic movie posters or just want to get some reprints to take up wall space?

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by victim

It depends. What's the price for a newer authentic movie poster. Like from 2000 on up.

Well that is a hard one to answer, it really depends on the movie. For example a Dark Knight poster from 2007/2008 will be more expensive than a poster for let's say one of the Jackass films, or Miley Cyrus films, etc.

Feel free to send me a private message or you can email me at MoviePoster@comcast.net if you want as I have to call it a night.

[Kinsella5]

Originally Posted by victim

Not sure what that means, perhaps someone can chime in?