Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

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Are those the DVD cases themselves, with discs slipping into a side pocket (that's what looks like)?

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by GuruAskew

Boy you're sure confused about a lot of things.

Lucas's approval of how the films were presented is not uncommon. It's essentially the "final cut" privilege that many filmmakers get and its not synonymous with ownership by any stretch.

Spielberg had enough say over how KOTCS was released to get the HD-DVD-aligned Paramount to release it on Blu. Doesn't mean he owned the movie.

I'm sure Fox has dozens of other movies in its library in which a filmmaker has various different assurances of approval over presentation. They're still Fox titles. Like Star Wars.

If that means Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, wasn't HD-DVD already dead by the time of the home video release? It's a 2008 film.

Wikipedia says about HD-DVD

In February 2008, after a protracted format war with rival Blu-ray Disc, Toshiba abandoned the format, announcing it would no longer develop nor manufacture HD DVD players or drives

So it was dead by the time the movie was released on home video.

[kidglov3s]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Are those the DVD cases themselves, with discs slipping into a side pocket (that's what looks like)?

No they're much larger than DVD cases, were given at point-of-sale with the purchase of the DVDs which were in standard retail packaging.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

I didn't know it was on film, I thought II and III were just on digital; only episode I of the prequels being on film. That's why theaters needed special digital projectors (which are now standard, but back then few had them).

Yes it was digital, but because as you said there were few digital projectors, the film had to be converted onto film prints to be shown in most theaters. I recall reviews (including Roger Ebert's) reporting that converting the movie to a film print made it look kind of fuzzy and murky. But that's how most people had to watch it.

And because the movie needed to be converted ahead of time, there were actually a few differences in that version compared to the digital-projection version, which Lucas was able to continue to tweak up until it's release. I can't remember most of the differences, but I know there was an added scene or two in the digital version and a couple of different takes here and there.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by kidglov3s

No they're much larger than DVD cases, were given at point-of-sale with the purchase of the DVDs which were in standard retail packaging.

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Without the size comparison, it was hard to tell. That's really cool.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

Yes it was digital, but because as you said there were few digital projectors, the film had to be converted onto film prints to be shown in most theaters. I recall reviews (including Roger Ebert's) reporting that converting the movie to a film print made it look kind of fuzzy and murky. But that's how most people had to watch it.

And because the movie needed to be converted ahead of time, there were actually a few differences in that version compared to the digital-projection version, which Lucas was able to continue to tweak up until it's release. I can't remember most of the differences, but I know there was an added scene or two in the digital version and a couple of different takes here and there.

I saw it on a digital projector, so I'm not sure which scenes are different from the film prints. A new theater had just finished being built the previous year before II was released, and it had all the new tech, including a new quieter air conditioner. The old theater was so noisy.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by GuruAskew

There's no way Disney spends $4 billion on of LucasFilm and then another $200 million on TFA only to give a competing film studio credit for doing nothing just for nerd feels.

The Fox fanfare appears on Big Momma's House and Dude Where's My Car. If you see it as something that is intrinsically linked to the Star Wars experience then you should probably watch more movies. And you should definitely get used to seeing Star Wars movies without it.

Unless fox OWNS Star Wars and they have no choice. Kinda arguing against your own assumptions there buddy.

Trouble with this thread is people clinging to their own opinion and not bothering to read posts properly before spewing their bile. The point I was making is that if fox owns the distribution of a new hope in perpetuity as is widely assumed, they (disney)may be willing to strike a profit share, logo on front of movie deal, to get control back. Or, as appears to be the case, they bought out the rights to the other five films from fox and are stuck with a new hope remaining under fox control.

Why would fox relinquish control of its golden goose. The film is still laying.

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Date of article is 2012.

Back to lurking in this thread...

And here is another great example of why any form of intellectual debate is not possible in this thread. READ the article posted before you comment. It was used, regardless of age, to demonstrate how fox owned distribution rights to all of the films for home release through to May 2020, but now disney own the distribution of the digital versions. Clearly they bought them back.

Funny how an article from 2012 is out of date, but most of you in here cling to a film released in 1977 that most of you never saw as you were too young.

I have contributed to this thread since it started, the contributions become less and less as who wants to get involved in the pointless back and forth sabre swinging that people like you try to provoke.

Lurking as you call it and not bothering to get involved in pointless, unsubstantiated arguing, is not high on my bucket list.

[motorheadache95]

I never want to read the words "copyright" or "distribution" again in my life.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I never want to read the words "copyright" or "distribution" again in my life.

I had to copy the right directions, so I wouldn't get lost on the way to the distribution center.

[Merlinpants]

The wide spread digital release of the Blu Ray editions of the films does prove one thing, disney has no immediate plans for the UOT. if you own the blu ray, the incentive to get these would have been only if they bundled the UOT with them. They haven't. They have put together a few new special features, and for some that will be enough to dip again. I said it before, the market for the UOT is too small to care about. The mass market will snap these up and when there is nothing left for disney to milk (read 40th anniversary at the earliest) they MAY then decide to roll them out.

I am not going to hold my breath. Star Wars is moving on, the new film will do a billion plus at the box office. Why do they need the chump change the UOT release will generate from a small section of the market.

This digital release seems to prove that they believe people will keep coming to the well regardless. I said earlier, throw in a few new special features and the lemmings will come to the cliff and throw themselves off. Reasonable statements tend to get lost in here due to the childish behaviour and grandstanding of a few.

I still think (my opinion only) that Kathleen Kennedy will continue to honour the legacy of her close friend, george Lucas, and will do nothing whilst he is alive to disrupt this.

[dvdmike]

This thread is doomed to repetition of the previous 10 pages over and over it seems, new news happens and people pop in not reading older pages and it gets stuck in an infinite loop!

[kidglov3s]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

The wide spread digital release of the Blu Ray editions of the films does prove one thing, disney has no immediate plans for the UOT. if you own the blu ray, the incentive to get these would have been only if they bundled the UOT with them. They haven't. I said it before, the market is too small to care about. The mass market will snap these up and when there is nothing left for disney to milk (read 40th anniversary at the earliest) they MAY then decide to roll them out.

I am not going to hold my breath. Star Wars is moving on, the new film will do a billion plus at the box office. Why do they need the chump change the UOT release will generate from a small section of the market.

This digital release seems to prove that they believe people will keep coming to the well regardless. I said earlier, throw in a few new special features and the lemmings will come to the cliff and throw themselves off. Reasonable statements tend to get lost in here due to the childish behaviour and grandstanding of a few.

I still think (my opinion only) that Kathleen Kennedy will continue to honour the legacy of her close friend, george Lucas, and will do nothing whilst he is alive to disrupt this.

I guess my naive hope is that this might be equivalent to the 3 disc box set of the fake movies that came out shortly before the 2 disc sets including the real movies, and that this might be shortly preceding an announcement of the real movies on Blu-ray with new 4K transfers.

Originally Posted by dvdmike

This thread is doomed to repetition of the previous 10 pages over and over it seems, new news happens and people pop in not reading older pages and it gets stuck in an infinite loop!

I really enjoy how repetitive/bitter this thread is, like a watering hole for nagging elderly mothers arguing about who has the more disappointing children.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

This thread is doomed to repetition of the previous 10 pages over and over it seems, new news happens and people pop in not reading older pages and it gets stuck in an infinite loop!

Or not bothering to read what was posted in context.

Trouble in here is opinion is fact. That by itself prevents any meaningful discussion from happening.

For those interested, trailers in one easy place for the digital versions. Regardless of version, still gives me chills and makes me want to break out the films for a viewing

http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/04...-trailers.html

[RBBrittain]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

Even if it affects future rights, it won't stop future BD releases. FOX likes money.

Who said it would stop future BD releases? For one, Disney likes money even more than Fox. Besides, I was alluding to who will release future BD sets, and particularly whether or not we'll ever see the UOT on BD.

VUDU uses UltraViolet, so it's already in UV.

Others (even Vudu's own Twitter feed) have said that as fact, but I won't believe it till ANH has a UV logo on its movie listing in the bundle, same place as the DMA "D" logo on the others. (It's not there now, though some claim it has a UV ALID in its source code.) Besides, Vudu has always had non-UV titles.

[Merlinpants]

We still have the mystery of the Lowry (or whoever they are now) 4k masters. Not needed for a digital release.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

We still have the mystery of the Lowry (or whoever they are now) 4k masters. Not needed for a digital release.

4K meh, I want to see an 8K master.

[sonyfanboy]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

4K meh, I want to see an 8K master.

I heard they mostly do 6K negative scans on 35mm film then process it in a 4K DI. 8K is usually done on 70mm stuff.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

The wide spread digital release of the Blu Ray editions of the films does prove one thing, disney has no immediate plans for the UOT. if you own the blu ray, the incentive to get these would have been only if they bundled the UOT with them. They haven't. They have put together a few new special features, and for some that will be enough to dip again. I said it before, the market for the UOT is too small to care about. The mass market will snap these up and when there is nothing left for disney to milk (read 40th anniversary at the earliest) they MAY then decide to roll them out.

I am not going to hold my breath. Star Wars is moving on, the new film will do a billion plus at the box office. Why do they need the chump change the UOT release will generate from a small section of the market.

This digital release seems to prove that they believe people will keep coming to the well regardless. I said earlier, throw in a few new special features and the lemmings will come to the cliff and throw themselves off. Reasonable statements tend to get lost in here due to the childish behaviour and grandstanding of a few.

I still think (my opinion only) that Kathleen Kennedy will continue to honour the legacy of her close friend, george Lucas, and will do nothing whilst he is alive to disrupt this.

Statement of truth. I've always thought this way when it came to Disney buying LucasFilm and him putting Kennedy there. She will not betray her friendship with Lucas. Not while he's alive and maybe pass then.

[Scarface32]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Statement of truth. I've always thought this way when it came to Disney buying LucasFilm and him putting Kennedy there. She will not betray her friendship with Lucas. Not while he's alive and maybe pass then.

What will you say when Disney releases the UOT?

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Scarface32

What will you say when Disney releases the UOT?

If they do, it'll be a while. I mean, how long have we been having this discussion about the theatrical versions getting a proper release on home video?

We're pushing 20 years, right?