Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[R3P0]

Something I got today from IGN...

Lucasfilm and Prime Focus, the global visual entertainment services company, are proud to announce their collaboration on the 3D conversion of Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace for theatrical release, heralding an exciting new era in Star Wars entertainment. Prime Focus was selected by Lucasfilm and Industrial Light & Magic (ILM) following an exhaustive testing process.

tilizing Prime Focus' proprietary View-D; process, the cutting-edge conversion is scheduled to hit 3D theater screens on February 10, 2012. Involving meticulous crafting and attention to detail by Prime Focus' global team of artists, the 3D release promises a wonderfully immersive experience for fans of the original, and a big screen introduction for a whole new generation.

"It was incredibly important to me that we have the technology, the resources and the time to do this right," said Star Wars creator George Lucas. "I'm very happy with the results I've been seeing on Episode I."

Prime Focus founder and CEO Namit Malhotra said: "Wherever you are in the world, the Star Wars films have become part of the very fabric of film-making - the epitome of the big cinema experience. To be chosen by Lucasfilm as a trusted partner, and to be given the time and opportunity to re-present this series as a new experience to both old and new audiences alike, is an incredible honor. For a project of this importance and magnitude, Lucasfilm and ILM would only have chosen a company with the best talent in the industry, leading proprietary technology and infrastructure, a production-proven pipeline and unmatched scale. I am hugely proud that Prime Focus is that company."

The extensive conversion process is being completed under the close supervision of John Knoll, Visual Effects Supervisor for ILM.

"Getting really good results from stereo conversion requires a lot of attention to detail and it is imperative that you take the time to get it right – and that's just what we're doing," said Knoll. "We're taking a different approach than you might expect. George's vision has been to add dimension to the film in subtle ways. This isn't a novelty conversion, with things jumping out at the audience; our goal has been to enhance the classic Star Wars theatrical experience, utilizing the latest cinematic tools and techniques."

Prime Focus is a global leader in 3D conversion and VFX, and has delivered work on films such as Avatar, Shrek, Tron: Legacy, Narnia: Dawn Treader and most recently Sucker Punch. Deploying its global View-D; conversion team on the Star Wars project, led out of the Prime Focus Hollywood office, artists in Los Angeles, London and Mumbai are delivering shots via Prime Focus' 'Global Digital Pipeline.' In collaboration with ILM, the meticulous conversion is being completed with the utmost respect for the source material, and with a keen eye for both technological considerations and artistic intentions.

Least its good to know Lucas himself is not doing the 3D conversions someone else is, Might not be so bad afterall

[Alpha]

I'm looking forward to the pod races in 3D...that'll be interesting.

[shelldweller]

Originally Posted by R3P0

Something I got today from IGN...

Least its good to know Lucas himself is not doing the 3D conversions someone else is, Might not be so bad afterall

...because up until now we thought George Lucas sat there all alone by himself doing the 3D-conversions. And besides, where does that pathetic opinion about Lucas come from? Nothing personal...

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

ok, fine, ANH did have it, BUT most cinema's did NOT.
The majority of people here probably only heard it in MONO.

And we can't conduct a poll, because i bet most people:
1 - didn't care then
- or -
2 - wouldn't remember

You forgot to add:
- or -
3 - are now dead...

On another note of course Han shooting Greedo in self defence changes his charcater. In the UOT Greedo gives Han an out.... He gives him the chance of giving him a bribe, Solo who values money more than anything else at that time (on par with his personal safety anyways) decides against it and shots first.

How does that not change his character? It may not change the story but it certaintly changes his character.

[Shaft Windu]

Originally Posted by chip75

You forgot to add:
- or -
3 - are now dead...

On another note of course Han shooting Greedo in self defence changes his charcater. In the UOT Greedo gives Han an out.... He gives him the chance of giving him a bribe, Solo who values money more than anything else at that time (on par with his personal safety anyways) decides against it and shots first.

How does that not change his character? It may not change the story but it certaintly changes his character.

It means exactly the same for his "character"! It is in both versions a classic western scenario, a Mexican Standoff - important is who is the last man standing, and that is in all versions Han! I would understand it if they would have changed the scene with Han simply shooting the gun out of Greedos hand or him shooting Greedo in the back... But why such a fuzz about a minor detail that lasts a split-second? It changes NOTHING - either way! Scenes that DO define Hans character are (1) when he says multiple times that he only helps the princess for the money, (2) that he stands up against Jabba (in the much hated Jabba scene), (3) that he says he doesn't believe in the force or (4) the derogatory way he talks to Obi-Wan, Luke and the princess... and many more scenes in the two other sequels.

For the sake that this ridiculous discussion has an end I would recommend that Lucas would let "the fans" (even though these so called "fans" have become more the opposite in the last 10 years) vote on the matter and incorporate what ever they decide - when they in turn would shut up already about Hayden Christensen in E6, the other enhancements in the sequels and the prequels!

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

For the sake that this ridiculous discussion has an end I would recommend that Lucas would let "the fans" (even though these so called "fans" have become more the opposite in the last 10 years) vote on the matter and incorporate what ever they decide - when they in turn would shut up already about Hayden Christensen in E6, the other enhancements in the sequels and the prequels!

If I had my vote between the "Han and Greedo" scene and Hayden Christensen's involvement, I'd happily vote to keep the changed Han and Greedo scene instead.

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

...because up until now we thought George Lucas sat there all alone by himself doing the 3D-conversions. And besides, where does that pathetic opinion about Lucas come from? Nothing personal...

My opinion is my opinion, same can be said about where your pathetic opinion comes from regarding my opinion. Nothing personal...

[Shaft Windu]

Originally Posted by R3P0

My opinion is my opinion, same can be said about where your pathetic opinion comes from regarding my opinion. Nothing personal...

What shelldweller wants to know is why a visionary storyteller like Lucas who single-handedly revolutionized the way movies are made and seen draws that much hate on to him? Star Wars is a timeless story that has yet to find it's match in cinemas and people forget that it was not corporate decision, a book-adaption or a remake it came out of ONE MANS IMAGINATION! For petty little "fans" who seem to lack respect for Lucas' achievements there really is only one word: PATHETIC!

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

What shelldweller wants to know is why a visionary storyteller like Lucas who single-handedly revolutionized the way movies are made and seen draws that much hate on to him? Star Wars is a timeless story that has yet to find it's match in cinemas and people forget that it was not corporate decision, a book-adaption or a remake it came out of ONE MANS IMAGINATION! For petty little "fans" who seem to lack respect for Lucas' achievements there really is only one word: PATHETIC!

Cool! More "I'm a true fan" and you're not posts!

Yippee!!

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

It changes NOTHING - either way!

As kamphausd1 asked earlier, if it changes NOTHING then what was the point?

I don't think anybody would argue that it looks better. So why do it?

Why make an awkward edit if that edit adds nothing at all to the story?

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

What shelldweller wants to know is why a visionary storyteller like Lucas who single-handedly revolutionized the way movies are made and seen draws that much hate on to him? Star Wars is a timeless story that has yet to find it's match in cinemas and people forget that it was not corporate decision, a book-adaption or a remake it came out of ONE MANS IMAGINATION! For petty little "fans" who seem to lack respect for Lucas' achievements there really is only one word: PATHETIC!

Respecting the Man and respecting achievements are 2 totally different aspects of respect. For petty little people to jump to mindless assumptions about a person they have seen make 1 post on a forum, there is really 1 word for that: PATHETIC

[Lope de Aguirre]

Originally Posted by chip75

You forgot to add:
- or -
3 - are now dead...

On another note of course Han shooting Greedo in self defence changes his charcater. In the UOT Greedo gives Han an out.... He gives him the chance of giving him a bribe, Solo who values money more than anything else at that time (on par with his personal safety anyways) decides against it and shots first.

How does that not change his character? It may not change the story but it certaintly changes his character.

And Greedo is a loughably bad shot if he shots first only one feet away from his target and misses!

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by shelldweller

I think the TV image is cut at the left and right side...
What point were you trying to make?

EDIT: Ok, I got it. Sorry! It didn´t look that good even in the Trailer 1999.

Ya, mostly my point was that the image on the tv has the "pink" hue that we are used to and the website image has no pink hue. My screen is set to screen fit, so that's the whole image of the film, at least on DVD. Again, the website image might not be from the movie, idk. BUt if it really is, we are in for a great transfer!!

[Lope de Aguirre]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

ok, fine, ANH did have it, BUT most cinema's did NOT.
The majority of people here probably only heard it in MONO.

And we can't conduct a poll, because i bet most people:
1 - didn't care then
- or -
2 - wouldn't remember

What are yo saying?
I one has seen Star Wars the first time on a Black and White TV or with a messed up TV setting or the first time on VHS or on TV with a lot of commercials in between - why would anyone buy a version which recreates that?

Why is it so hard to understand?
A lot of Director's Cuts are better than the Thetrical release.
There are even films like "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and "Blade Runner" where they changed things digitally or changed the color grading.

Nobody is on the fence cause they didn't include new CGI charcters or made new scenes up out of nowhere.
Additionally they offer ALL versions.

Same with the original "Star Trek" TV show.

So why can't Lucas do that?
I prefer the DC of ST1 and the Final Cut of Blade Runner but the SEs of "Star Wars" are going to far for my tastes.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Lope de Aguirre

What are yo saying?
I one has seen Star Wars the first time on a Black and White TV or with a messed up TV setting or the first time on VHS or on TV with a lot of commercials in between - why would anyone buy a version which recreates that?

Why is it so hard to understand?
A lot of Director's Cuts are better than the Thetrical release.
There are even films like "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" and "Blade Runner" where they changed things digitally or changed the color grading.

Nobody is on the fence cause they didn't include new CGI charcters or made new scenes up out of nowhere.
Additionally they offer ALL versions.

Same with the original "Star Trek" TV show.

So why can't Lucas do that?I prefer the DC of ST1 and the Final Cut of Blade Runner but the SEs of "Star Wars" are going to far for my tastes.

That is easy to answer. Because he does not wish or want to do it, it's really that simple.

As a customer if you have a problem with that, do not buy the products he is selling.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Lope de Aguirre

And Greedo is a loughably bad shot if he shots first only one feet away from his target and misses!

It's the compound eyes. Never hire a Fly-creature Bounty Hunter. It never works out well.

[Lope de Aguirre]

Originally Posted by Beast

Yeah. I bought the DVD versions with the original cuts. Never watch them though.

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

Same here.

I tried, and actually found it painful.

Guess what: I also bought the SEs with the unaltered OT as Bonus and never watched the unatlered ones.
And I prefer the older versions.

Generally it's abot giving the people the choice AND in the case of the non-anamorphic crap transfers of 1993 which they slammend on the 2007 (?) DVDs were unwatchbly even compared with the DVDs at that time.

The original Theatrical Cut of "Blade Runner" (1982) on BD (and even the DVDs) looks a lot more like the theatrical release of the film than the crappy UOT DVDs.
You see my point?

I don't think that Nostalgia is the reason I prefer the UOT and even if it was it doesn't mean I would prefer the unaltered version of the OT on VHS over Blu-Ray.
I do not watch DVDs anymore for quite some time now and I'm happy to put "For a Few Dollars More" (1965) in it's uinaltered form into my BD-Player.
I will not watch the VHS or DVD of it ever again.

[Lope de Aguirre]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

That is easy to answer. Because he does not wish or want to do it, it's really that simple.

As a customer if you have a problem with that, do not buy the products he is selling.

I will buy the OT on Blu-Ray even if it's the 2004 SE.
The SEs are in some point better and in some points worse (and overall imo worse) but that does not destroy my love for these films in general.

If Lucas would release the UOT later on (in BR worthy quality) I would even double dip and probably keep both the SEs and the OTs.

The PT on the other hand does not interest me (although "Revenge of the Sith" is entertaining but imo not good).

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

That is easy to answer. Because he does not wish or want to do it, it's really that simple.

And that's the reason I am posting about this.
If others have what they want -> lucky you, enjoy it.

But if others argue that "it does not alter the story", "it does not change his character", "you are inconsequent" than I do not know what they are arguing for? That others shall not get the versions they want?

And it isn't that the people on here are requesting something unusual. They want the original versions not some own private wish bag like "get rid of the Ewoks", "add some more fight scenes" or "make Leia more beuatiful".
I understand that Lucas can do what he wants but so can the customers.
So it is totally OK to not buy the sets or express your wishes or dissappontments.

[Monkey_Boy]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

I was going to Watch all 6 in one sitting (yes, 2004 special editions) until i heard the BluRay versions were coming out.
I have decided to wait.
I'm havin a huge get together at my place on the 17th of September.
BluRay Star Wars, 7.1 sound system, pizza, chips, hot wings, drinks...it's gonna be a blast!

I've done it with friends starting the Wednesday after "ROTS" hit DVD in October '05 (thereby making October the month of our Star Wars Day). We thought of skipping out on doing it last year, but it was our 5th Anniversary. So we threw a bash! We filled The Den to maximum capacity and then some! Seriously! I had to bring chairs from the kitchen and make folks sit on bean bag chairs! We had a breakfast of biscuits and sausage gravy (a buddy of mine's specialty) and I made up my candied-french toast. Lunch were swiss mushroom burgers with provolone cheese (another specialty of his). And Dinner was my homemade lasagna with homemade sauce (my specialty). With tons of sweets & drinks. Also, I made up my crowd-pleasing buffalo wings. Yes, sir. It was indeed awesome.

I suggest you start early; around 8 or 9am. That'll get ya done at around 2am (with 5-10 minute bathroom breaks inbetween each episode). Any later and I found you'll end up with folks passing out during "ROTJ"!:

[R3P0]

Originally Posted by Monkey_Boy

I've done it with friends starting the Wednesday after "ROTS" hit DVD in October '05 (thereby making October the month of our Star Wars Day). We thought of skipping out on doing it last year, but it was our 5th Anniversary. So we threw a bash! We filled The Den to maximum capacity and then some! Seriously! I had to bring chairs from the kitchen and make folks sit on bean bag chairs! We had a breakfast of biscuits and sausage gravy (a buddy of mine's specialty) and I made up my candied-french toast. Lunch were swiss mushroom burgers with provolone cheese (another specialty of his). And Dinner was my homemade lasagna with homemade sauce (my specialty). With tons of sweets & drinks. Also, I made up my crowd-pleasing buffalo wings. Yes, sir. It was indeed awesome.

I suggest you start early; around 8 or 9am. That'll get ya done at around 2am (with 5-10 minute bathroom breaks inbetween each episode). Any later and I found you'll end up with folks passing out during "ROTJ"!:

haha thats funny cause we have the planned this year for LOTR and Star Wars, were working on planning the days now, Wings, beer, Deep Fried Turkey etc