Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Who should I email to ask whether the Prequel and Original Trilogies will have 4-discs (with the extra content one)?

It's been confirmed and posted before. There's no need to email anyone. It's on the Star Wars web site: 3 discs for the separate trilogies, 9 discs for the saga.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by JasonWard

Everyone knows what "I am your father" means and there is no surprise to be saved as long as Star Wars is in the public consciousness. The reveal ceased to be effective about a month after Empire came out.

That's a bingo.

[Riddler95]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Who should I email to ask whether the Prequel and Original Trilogies will have 4-discs (with the extra content one)?

I am not too sure who to contact for that but you should go ahead and do this.

I am really curious if the Individual Trilogies will include a fourth bonus disc with extras, I remember reading on a website a few months ago that they will. I don't remember where I read it though.

[The Drugstore]

Here are my favorite deleted scenes from the upcoming Ultimate Collection Set

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8kDsM0M-vg

‪Yoda Farts!!!!!‬‏ - YouTube

[al cos.]

Lots of people don't know vader's story or luke's father. Get out more, jesus.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Riddler95

I am not too sure who to contact for that but you should go ahead and do this.

I am really curious if the Individual Trilogies will include a fourth bonus disc with extras, I remember reading on a website a few months ago that they will. I don't remember where I read it though.

Originally that was the assumption that the ninth disc would be a bonus disk for buying the complete set. It turned out that that was not the case though. It's pretty much comfirmed that the individual trilogies only have the movies and no extra discs.

If I recall atexp80 has posted pictures (which I've also done) which show the Australian artwork and Fox usually mention the number of discs on multi-disc sets and there are three for the individual trilogies and nine for the complete set.

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[adywan]

Well only just over a month until Monday September 12th and we will know for sure what the OT looks like. I really do hope that they haven't just stuck the 2004 transfers on there without at least attempting to fix all the issues with colour etc. But i wonder, if any of the people convinced that they will have fixed these issues because 2004 was a "rush job" and it turns then out not to be the case, will they admit that it was a cheap move on LFL's part, or will they just start defending again by saying stuff like "it's the way he intended" or "he is waiting until the 3D releases to do a proper transfer"?

September 12th can't get here fast enough for me

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

But they are not. It's explained in Episode II and movie beats expanded universe. It was introduced that the Republic / Imperial army consist of clones and it was not changed along the way. It would weaken the Empire if Stormtroopers had minds of their own. They are just a recource like the Droids of the Seperatists. Why would someone sign up to be a stormtrooper? By the time of A New Hope whre the Empire is at its peak there are propably hundreds of clone-factories across the universe. That appears to be much more reasonable and believable to me.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stormtrooper

A snippet from there:

By the time the Galactic Civil War began in earnest, Jango Fett's clones were heavily supplanted by clones based on a variety of templates around 9 BBY, followed shortly after by enlisted Humans. Thus, the Fett clones were ironically reduced to a minority status after years of virtually filling the stormtrooper ranks in its entirety. According to a stormtrooper's entry log in the 501st Journal, none of the Fett clones were ever truly able to come to terms with serving alongside recruits and different clones, all of whom were disdainfully dubbed as the "new guys." Commander Cody, a first generation clone of Jango Fett and a veteran of the Clone Wars, found stormtrooper recruits to be absolutely intolerable. Due to the significant decrease in the Imperial Military's operational effectiveness and his own feelings of nostalgia over the Republic's "army of one man," Cody viewed enlisted troopers as incompetent idiots, all of whom he would have gladly sacrificed for just one real clone trooper.

After the failed uprising on Kamino in 12 BBY, Emperor Palpatine came to the conclusion that an army of clone soldiers was far too susceptible to corruption. Thus, he expanded the Stormtrooper Corps to include clones that were created from a variety of genetic templates, effectively marginalizing Jango Fett's progeny into a minority status. In addition to the massive influx of new clone sources, the Corps began recruiting real Human beings to serve in the ranks as enlisted stormtroopers.

If a man between the ages of 18 and 30 scored in the top fifth percentile, an Imperial recruiting agent would contact him and presumably arrange for the extraction of a DNA sampling for cloning. Men who did not score high enough to qualify as a genetic template were still used as regular soldiers. Also, it was preferable if enlisted troopers met a certain standard in height and weight. Princess Leia Organa was seemingly familiar with Stormtrooper Corps's standards by 0 BBY, perhaps as a result of her work with the Imperial Senate.

So by the time of the OT the stormtroopers were no longer just clones, but enlisted humans too

[Cowboy]

Originally Posted by chip75

Originally that was the assumption that the ninth disc would be a bonus disk for buying the complete set. It turned out that that was not the case though. It's pretty much comfirmed that the individual trilogies only have the movies and no extra discs.

If I recall atexp80 has posted pictures (which I've also done) which show the Australian artwork and Fox usually mention the number of discs on multi-disc sets and there are three for the individual trilogies and nine for the complete set.

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Why does Anakin have lipstick on and where are the wraps for Luke's boots? You think the artist would get those correct.....it's like painting a sailboat and getting the rigging wrong. They had one single job to do and could not even get those boots right?

[frogmort]

On the Complete Saga artwork, does anyone have any idea why Luke is see-through, but Anakin is not?

[Shaft Windu]

Originally Posted by adywan

Well only just over a month until Monday September 12th and we will know for sure what the OT looks like. I really do hope that they haven't just stuck the 2004 transfers on there without at least attempting to fix all the issues with colour etc. But i wonder, if any of the people convinced that they will have fixed these issues because 2004 was a "rush job" and it turns then out not to be the case, will they admit that it was a cheap move on LFL's part, or will they just start defending again by saying stuff like "it's the way he intended" or "he is waiting until the 3D releases to do a proper transfer"?

As you know "Only the Sith deal in absolutes!"

You will find that people who just love the movies equally and are enthusiastic, open-minded, excited and curious about what the Blu-Rays will have to offer are much less dogmatic! There are two seperate things that get mixed up all the time: (1) The quality of the movies (story, writing, acting, execution etc. and interpretation of the multiple layers of the narrative) and (2) The Scans, the transfer, the artwork etc.

As I see it as a waste of time for me to discuss (1) with people who don't acknowledge the prequels or deny the movies a deeper meaning but see them only as cash-cows to sell toys or a time capsule for their lost childhood I am very interested how (2) will turn out and open for criticism. By now It's very likely that the Scans that were made for the 2004 OT DVD Edition are the base for the BDs also. The problem as I understand it was NOT the original scan per se but rather the rushed color-corrections and that there was somehow no time to fix the lightsabers. The colors at least seem to be fixed which makes it very likely that the lightsabers were also fixed. If that will not be the case I'm the first to question the BDs - but that has no influence whatsoever on (1) or my deep respect for George Lucas. What he has achieved with the OT and even surpassed with the PT is simply amazing.

What I don't care for is this constant bickering over things like midi-chlorians, clones / stormtroopers, Jar Jar, Who shoots first and why the movies the actors involved and most of the creative decisions suck... There are just some people who like and get the movies and some who just don't. It's simply matter of taste! Some people are on a constant witchhunt looking for contradictions and plot-holes and "proof" that the prequels suck and that Lucas is just greedy, unimaginative, cheap or ungrateful... In fact he is the opposite of that!

Just don't mix up (1) and (2) all the time. We ALL could get along and have a constructive discussion about the BDs if it wouldn't be so spiteful all the time!

[StoogeFan1118]

I am torn on which way to go with these sets I love film and do like special features(yes I do love star wars but I am not an uber fan) thing is I buy so many films that they just pile up and I hardly ever get to actually watch the special features more than once if ever at all. SO I many just save the $10 and get the individual releases plus I know I am one of the few who like their covers... ahh well I got some time to decide any suggestions are welcome as well

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by miniroll32

Who should I email to ask whether the Prequel and Original Trilogies will have 4-discs (with the extra content one)?

Originally Posted by Riddler95

I am not too sure who to contact for that but you should go ahead and do this.

I am really curious if the Individual Trilogies will include a fourth bonus disc with extras, I remember reading on a website a few months ago that they will. I don't remember where I read it though.

Here's the link to the official announcement:

http://www.starwars.com/themovies/sa...ray/index.html

[kenkraly2004]

Just enjoy it that the blu-ray box set is coming out in a month instead of complaining and bickering about the transfers for the blu-ray box set over and over again. Wait until the final product comes out then judge for yourself. It's Star Wars on Blu-Ray after all.

[georgec]

Originally Posted by frogmort

On the Complete Saga artwork, does anyone have any idea why Luke is see-through, but Anakin is not?

I think what Lucas is saying there is that Luke's destiny was not quite clear when he met Obi-Wan. Throughout the OT we see Luke go from young and eager to a darker, more somber character. The transparency in the artwork shows the transparency in Luke deciding his own fate, as he was tempted to join the dark side.

Anakin isn't transparent because by the time those movies came out we knew his destiny - to become Darth Vader. We know that he will fall from grace and turn to evil. Anakin is walking in one direction and Luke is going in the other - a sign that Luke is trying to steer away from his father's dark path but isn't quite sure how to do it. I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas specifically requested this artwork because it perfectly exhibits the story he's told.

People need to stop hating on Lucas. He's given us so much joy with these movies, and the modifications that he's continued to do to the OT are for our own benefit. He cares about the fans and wants us to see the movies he originally envisioned. If Da Vinci or Picasso could go back and make their paintings better, they would. People say Lucas has contradicted himself over the years, but what if he's actually been slowly revealing details of the story on purpose? It's like an ongoing discovery and I can't wait to see how the blu-ray shapes up. Everyone needs to chill out and have some of Beru's blu milk! LOL.

[Cowboy]

Originally Posted by georgec

I think what Lucas is saying there is that Luke's destiny was not quite clear when he met Obi-Wan. Throughout the OT we see Luke go from young and eager to a darker, more somber character. The transparency in the artwork shows the transparency in Luke deciding his own fate, as he was tempted to join the dark side.

Anakin isn't transparent because by the time those movies came out we knew his destiny - to become Darth Vader. We know that he will fall from grace and turn to evil. Anakin is walking in one direction and Luke is going in the other - a sign that Luke is trying to steer away from his father's dark path but isn't quite sure how to do it.

Either way, it brilliantly exhibits and epitomizes the story Lucas created. People need to stop hating on him. He's given us so much joy with these movies, and the modifications that he's continued to do to the OT are for our own benefit. He cares about the fans and wants us to see the movies he originally envisioned. People say Lucas has contradicted himself over the years, but what if he's actually been slowly revealing details of the story on purpose? It's like an ongoing discovery and I can't wait to see how the blu-ray shapes up. Everyone needs to chill out and have some of Beru's blu milk! LOL.

This must be sarcasm...or at least I would hope so.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by georgec

Everyone needs to chill out and have some of Beru's blu milk! LOL.

Another example of the unacceptable errors in the 2004 versions! It's actually supposed to be white milk but the crappy blue tint ruins the whole scene!

[Show spoiler]Yeah right...

[antimatter]

Hey this is a real dumb question as i could find the answer if i did some research...but what is the difference between buying the 2 box sets vs the complete saga....what does the saga have that the 2 individual sets don't....Thanks

[kenkraly2004]

These so called fans / haters really need to stop bashing on GL. This is the man who created star wars and without him star wars would not be what it is today. Yes I know some fans don't like the prequels and the special editions of the original trilogy. We are all fans of star wars to the very end and we need to respect the fact that GL made these films if we don't at least respect that where in trouble and all of fandom is in trouble. And if your still complaning the ewoks in ROTJ and you think the prequel movies are crap I'm not saying your not a fan I'm saying you need to re-think your membership to the club as obi wan would say go home and rethink your life. But the last thing you should be doing is being quoted in a article on some blog somewhere just the bash GL every time the subject of the films come up weather it's the 3D release or the blu-ray or the OOT. So please enough of the GL bashing it gets tiresome after a while. We are all star wars fans and we should at least respect GL for what he has given us to the series in all forms.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by antimatter

Hey this is a real dumb question as i could find the answer if i did some research...but what is the difference between buying the 2 box sets vs the complete saga....what does the saga have that the 2 individual sets don't....Thanks

the complete saga gives you 3 extra discs, two with featurettes and deleted scenes, one with several documentaries

3 more discs for $10 less

[chip75]

Originally Posted by antimatter

Hey this is a real dumb question as i could find the answer if i did some research...but what is the difference between buying the 2 box sets vs the complete saga....what does the saga have that the 2 individual sets don't....Thanks

3 discs of bonus features is the difference the individual sets have none. Plus different packaging, the separate releases are Amaray's in a slipcase the complete set is a book type set inside a larger slipcase.