Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 906 - Blu-ray Forum

mikezilla2 · 08-02-2011, 04:49 PM

why is there an extra option in the poll ?

NMR1723 · 08-02-2011, 04:50 PM

The Blu-rays...We all know that Lucas gets the ultimate say when it comes to anything Star Wars. But these Blu-rays are passing through many hands before they get to him. If in fact the 2004 transfers are being used, then everyone involved should be at fault. If this is the case...Lucas should have said "we need to use a new transfer to fix all the crap that was wrong with the DVDs". But...I'm thinking he probably doesn't care that much. He probably thinks they look great...and I bet he's got a whole legion of employees telling him the same thing.

I'm still hoping for new transfers and improved audio (poor John Williams!). These are hopes though...not needs. Star Wars has always been a cash grab when it comes Home Video. It has had countless releases on VHS, LD, DVD, and most likely will be with BD. I want to enjoy it now even if it's not perfect. I love film, and I love the Star Wars universe. If another improved release comes out...I'll buy that too (only if it's improved). I guess I'm part of the problem, but it's not a whole lot of money in the grand scheme of things...If I drop a couple $100 on Star Wars BDs...I think I'll be ok.

Either way...I'm charged for 9/16. I'm going to fire up the KURO, my Pio 1120, and my Ascends and go back 25+ years with a smile on my face.

P@t_Mtl · 08-02-2011, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mikezilla2

why is there an extra option in the poll ?

The poll was made more then one year ago, before any real announcements were made,

NMR1723 · 08-02-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

Sorry, that's just the way I see it! Star Wars to me is a 6-Part-Film-series and no kids-TV-show, Video Games or bad novels... I don't mind the gaps. I only take seriously what has been included by Lucas intro the movies. The rest is up for grabs...

The Clone Wars is not a kid's TV show. And you are seriously missing out...especially if you are big Lucas fan. GL himself wrote a few episodes in season 3 and they were pretty fantastic.

Also...The Clone Wars has better acting (voice-wise) than pretty much all of the PT stuff. For example...the Trade Federation dudes are miles better in TCW than they are in the PT...and the guy who plays Anakin is loads better the HC...this is all in my opinion...of course.

I can't wait for the S3 Blu-ray...

Cowboy · 08-02-2011, 06:23 PM

Back to the BD..

Hopefully Lucas not only added things but took out things that were not needed in the film for the BD release such as the Han/Jabba scene in Star Wars. So maybe we will have some subtractions as well as additions for this release. Not every change he made was for the better and maybe he himself just might realize that now.

georgec · 08-02-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

Back to the BD..

Hopefully Lucas not only added things but took out things that were not needed in the film for the BD release such as the Han/Jabba scene in Star Wars. So maybe we will have some subtractions as well as additions for this release. Not every change he made was for the better and maybe he himself just might realize that now.

Won't happen. These discs are the 2004 versions, and TPM will have digital Yoda. Otherwise things will be the same. Things like the green lightsaber in ANH might be fixed but otherwise I expect content to not vary.

shelldweller · 08-02-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

Back to the BD..

Hopefully Lucas not only added things but took out things that were not needed in the film for the BD release such as the Han/Jabba scene in Star Wars. So maybe we will have some subtractions as well as additions for this release. Not every change he made was for the better and maybe he himself just might realize that now.

It has been confirmed that the actual running times of the movies will be the same as on the DVDs. It´s unlikely that scenes have been added or deleted. I think the changes (if ther will be any) will mostly be in quality... better sabers, effects, sounds etc

Cowboy · 08-02-2011, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shelldweller

It has been confirmed that the actual running times of the movies will be the same as on the DVDs. It´s unlikely that scenes have been added or deleted.

So there will be no new scenes added? Has it been confirmed there is a CGI yoda in TMP?

shelldweller · 08-02-2011, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

So there will be no new scenes added? Has it been confirmed there is a CGI yoda in TMP?

It hasn´t really been confirmed officially but CGI Yoda in TPM has been seen in several occasions such as Star Wars in Convert or the RotS Bonus-DVD. Lucas was never really happy with how the puppet turned out in TPM. It would surprise me if Yoda wasn´t changed in the BD release of TPM.

Cowboy · 08-02-2011, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shelldweller

It hasn´t really been confirmed officially but CGI Yoda in TPM has been seen in several occasions such as Star Wars in Convert or the RotS Bonus-DVD. Lucas was never really happy with how the puppet turned out in TPM.

Then we don't know its been changed at all.

Anomaly · 08-02-2011, 06:52 PM

While I'm not saying this is the case, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we simply get the DVD versions in 1080p, with the "real" BD versions coming at a later date.

shelldweller · 08-02-2011, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anomaly

While I'm not saying this is the case, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we simply get the DVD versions in 1080p, with the "real" BD versions coming at a later date.

...and what would those be? John Knoll already said that there will be no changes made for the 3D versions. No No, I guess what will not be made for this BD release, will never be. So here´s hoping the did fix the sabers.

STARSCREAM · 08-02-2011, 06:59 PM

Hopefully we can get some good new info out of this event: http://www.thefancarpet.com/NewsPage.aspx?n_id=4410

Sweetmeats · 08-02-2011, 07:49 PM

A DVD / Blu-ray producer friend in Germany sent me this...

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a journalist friend of mine went to a STAR WARS blu-ray screening by fox the other day. he asked specifically what has been changed as to the versions that were re-submitted to the ratings board. a fox official said that all films have been optimized for blu-ray (whatever that means - does not really sound like new effects), but episodes 2 and 4 have received a couple of additions. these may be very short, like on sentence in a dialogue or two.

Could be true...could be false. In the end, we won't know until we see it ourselves.

shelldweller · 08-02-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetmeats

A DVD / Blu-ray producer friend in Germany sent me this...

Could be true...could be false. In the end, we won't know until we see it ourselves.

Thanks for the post... that seems make sense since only Episodes 1, 2 and 4 have been re-rated by the FSK in Germany. We´ll see.

octagon · 08-02-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetmeats

A DVD / Blu-ray producer friend in Germany sent me this...

Quote:

a journalist friend of mine went to a STAR WARS blu-ray screening by fox the other day. he asked specifically what has been changed as to the versions that were re-submitted to the ratings board. a fox official said that all films have been optimized for blu-ray (whatever that means - does not really sound like new effects), but episodes 2 and 4 have received a couple of additions. these may be very short, like on sentence in a dialogue or two.

Could be true...could be false. In the end, we won't know until we see it ourselves.

Prediction: Greedo doesn't fire.

I have no idea why but I'm becoming increasingly convinced they're going to undo that change.

Cowboy · 08-02-2011, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Prediction: Greedo doesn't fire.

I have no idea why but I'm becoming increasingly convinced they're going to undo that change.

That would be a godsend! Now if we could just undo Hayden Christensen and put Boba Fette's voice back to the way it was....he would have another sale.

shelldweller · 08-02-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Prediction: Greedo doesn't fire.

I have no idea why but I'm becoming increasingly convinced they're going to undo that change.

That might actually be true... I also can imagine they made that change because it doesn´t make much of a difference anyway. I really don´t mind them changing it as long as we keep actually seeing the laser which we didn´t in the theatrical edition.

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Originally Posted by Cowboy

I agree totally....see we do agree on something Phatrat.

Everyone seems to have another opinion about the changes... so, I totally disagree with him. I love all the changes above (Hayden, Emperor, End celebration)... the only thing I´m not a big fan of is the "new" Jabba song and the animation of Sy Snootles.

El_Jay · 08-02-2011, 08:00 PM

Really all I would need to be 100% happy with the OT is:

- No Hayden Christensen at all in ROTJ. None whatsoever.
- NO CGI musical sequence ("Jedi Rock" or whatever it's called), it's jarring, out-of-place and totally unnecessary.
- Greedo not shooting.
- Lightsabers are green, blue and red again.

WISH LIST (things that I would like but are not critical):

- Jabba removed from A New Hope

I'm forgetting others, will edit when they come to me.

STARSCREAM · 08-02-2011, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Prediction: Greedo doesn't fire.

I have no idea why but I'm becoming increasingly convinced they're going to undo that change.

I would love it if they changed it back to just Han shooting. Let's hope they do.

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08-02-2011, 04:50 PM	#18102
NMR1723 Member Member since:Jul 2011	The Blu-rays...We all know that Lucas gets the ultimate say when it comes to anything Star Wars. But these Blu-rays are passing through many hands before they get to him. If in fact the 2004 transfers are being used, then everyone involved should be at fault. If this is the case...Lucas should have said "we need to use a new transfer to fix all the crap that was wrong with the DVDs". But...I'm thinking he probably doesn't care that much. He probably thinks they look great...and I bet he's got a whole legion of employees telling him the same thing. I'm still hoping for new transfers and improved audio (poor John Williams!). These are hopes though...not needs. Star Wars has always been a cash grab when it comes Home Video. It has had countless releases on VHS, LD, DVD, and most likely will be with BD. I want to enjoy it now even if it's not perfect. I love film, and I love the Star Wars universe. If another improved release comes out...I'll buy that too (only if it's improved). I guess I'm part of the problem, but it's not a whole lot of money in the grand scheme of things...If I drop a couple $100 on Star Wars BDs...I think I'll be ok. Either way...I'm charged for 9/16. I'm going to fire up the KURO, my Pio 1120, and my Ascends and go back 25+ years with a smile on my face. Last edited by Deciazulado; 08-03-2011 at 08:12 AM. Reason: thread split

08-02-2011, 06:23 PM	#18105
Cowboy Banned Member since:May 2011 Location:Garland, Texas Blu-ray collection:116 Blu-ray reviews:1	Back to the BD.. Hopefully Lucas not only added things but took out things that were not needed in the film for the BD release such as the Han/Jabba scene in Star Wars. So maybe we will have some subtractions as well as additions for this release. Not every change he made was for the better and maybe he himself just might realize that now. Last edited by Cowboy; 08-02-2011 at 06:30 PM.

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08-02-2011, 04:49 PM	#18101
mikezilla2 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Feb 2011 4K collection:505 Blu-ray collection:2165	why is there an extra option in the poll ?

08-02-2011, 06:52 PM	#18111
Anomaly Banned Member since:Jul 2011 Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:115 Blu-ray collection:787 DVD collection:398	While I'm not saying this is the case, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we simply get the DVD versions in 1080p, with the "real" BD versions coming at a later date.

08-02-2011, 06:59 PM	#18113
STARSCREAM Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Dagobah Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:67	Hopefully we can get some good new info out of this event: http://www.thefancarpet.com/NewsPage.aspx?n_id=4410

08-02-2011, 08:00 PM	#18119
El_Jay Power Member Member since:Jun 2011 Blu-ray collection:349	Really all I would need to be 100% happy with the OT is: - No Hayden Christensen at all in ROTJ. None whatsoever. - NO CGI musical sequence ("Jedi Rock" or whatever it's called), it's jarring, out-of-place and totally unnecessary. - Greedo not shooting. - Lightsabers are green, blue and red again. WISH LIST (things that I would like but are not critical): - Jabba removed from A New Hope I'm forgetting others, will edit when they come to me.

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