Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Silo5]

I think everyone is focused on the wrong lightsaber snafu. What I want to see is the lightsaber scene from A New Hope when Luke is on the Millenium Falcon with the training orb. If they corrected that, then it would be a huge improvement, IMHO.

[opticzar]

We already know that Lucas has decided to retouch some lightsaber shots (e.g. the crossing in ROTJ) so isn't it safe to assume that however he decides to display Vader's saber is "correct"? He must know this is a huge point of contention, like the crossing in ROTJ.

[kenkraly2004]

Come on everyone complaining about a pink lightsaber? seriously.

[Deciazulado]

With all due respect, Darth Vader's lightsaber is red

[Merlinpants]

To put this to bed, the top pic is from 1977 as originally shown, bottom pic 2004 DVD. Clearly Adywan is right

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[Roonan]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

Come on everyone complaining about a pink lightsaber? seriously.

Seriously.

[Ryan0503]

I just find it disturbing that most amatures can do lightsaber effects on a home computer, there is no excues for the sabers in the OT to not match the PT. If this was the UOT the I would agree that the sabers should match the technicolor print of how they originally looked (and if that is pink then so be it). However we are talking about the 2011 Blu-ray/ Special Edition / whatever this version is called ... if they can animate the dewback to make them look more life like, they can match the lightsabers to make them look more real

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

Antoher thing that really bothered me, that will be even more noticeable on the Blu Ray, is Obi Wans beard and hair in AOTC. When they did the pickups, they stuck a fake beard on to Ewan McGregor which was bad enough on the DVD (It stuck out a mile) alongside the ever changing length and density of mullett. The worst example was when he was in the elevator with Anakin talking about falling into a pit of gundarks or something.

God help us, this will be much, much worse than any pink lightsabre in high definition.

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Fake beard and wig

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Real beard

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Just dreadful for a multi million pound film.

That in no way compares to the birds-nest in The Phantom Menace. I think they even mention how good it was in the making of book. It seems half of Ewan McGregor's performance was re-shoots. Ewan was probably contracted to appear within so many months of filming for pick-ups: they should have had his hair under contract as well.

[HandyDandy]

You guys can't tell me that this is not an improvement over what the saber looked like in the 2004 dvd.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by kenkraly2004

Come on everyone complaining about a pink lightsaber? seriously.

Yes, seriously. Some of us don't just blindly praise everything Lucas does and ingore the glaring screw ups and pretend that they are no big deal.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by chip75

That in no way compares to the birds-nest in The Phantom Menace. It seems half of Ewan McGregor's performance was re-shoots. Ewan was probably contracted to appear within so many months of filming for pick-ups: they should have had his hair under contract as well.

[danny_boy]

Originally Posted by adywan

And Vaders saber is red in the technicolor print. Plus, the saber glow in the 2004 screenshot you posted isn't pink. The worse problems with the new pink/ magenta sabers is in ESB & ROTJ. ANH doesn't suffer so much

I would say the 2004 screenshot is pink or leaning towards it.
And your word is not enough with regards to the colour of the saber being red in the technicolour print.
You were not in baltimore(neither was I) to see that screening.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by danny_boy

I would say the 2004 screenshot is pink or leaning towards it.
And your word is not enough with regards to the colour of the saber being red in the technicolour print.
You were not in baltimore(neither was I) to see that screening.

But the picture I put up was from that print

Perhaps this one then:
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or this one
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or this
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bored yet?
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[adywan]

Originally Posted by danny_boy

With all respect Ady, taking the 1997 version as the original template of what the saber colours should have looked like is wrong.

Why not take the 77/81' Technicolor print as the barometer for measuring what the original sabers looked like:

I explained about those tecnicolor screenshots and how the colour is incorrect here:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post5068789

And also the 1997 versions were restored and colour corrected to match the technicolor prints, so why are the sabers red in those versions if they are pink in the technicolour prints? And wouldn't all the sith sabres in the prequels be pink if that's the colour they were originally supposed to be? No, they were always red.

Not only that but the screenshots we are both posting are from 2 different films. You can clearly see that the colour in the blu-ray trailer is even nothing like the technicolor photos you posted.

[earmullet]

Originally Posted by adywan

I think people are getting a little confused as to what the argument is about the pink lightsabers. It has nothing to do with the cores of the sabers. The glows have changed colour ever since 2004. Instead of the correct original red glow they have become pink/ magenta. The original colours of Vaders saber was the same as the red sabers in the prequels.

I cannot believe you guys are going on about this new trailer. Adywan, especially you should know better. The codec completely oversaturated in this video not to mention LO RES! And not one of you have even mentioned the lightsabers that cross in front of The Emperor in Jedi are now fixed.

[gallandro]

Frankly I think this whole argument about Vader's lightsaber is silly. At this juncture no one knows what the correct coloring is supposed to be. There are so many screen grabs float around the internets that are photoshopped or a screen grabs from "corrected" fan versions.

All I know is my 1977 Darth Vader poster that I proudly displayed on my bedroom door for years looked like this:



Yancy

[HandyDandy]

Originally Posted by earmullet

I cannot believe you guys are going on about this new trailer. Adywan, especially you should know better. The codec completely oversaturated in this video not to mention LO RES! And not one of you have even mentioned the lightsabers that cross in front of The Emperor in Jedi are now fixed.

I knew it was something like that.

[danny_boy]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

To put this to bed, the top pic is from 1977 as originally shown, bottom pic 2004 DVD. Clearly Adywan is right

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And the top picture comes from? ---the special edition maybe---lol!
It definitely is not the technicolor print which is the authority with regards to this matter:

By the way the saber looks "more red" in the 2004 DVD than it does in the original:

Technicolor print on the left/2004 DVD on the right:

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by earmullet

I cannot believe you guys are going on about this new trailer. Adywan, especially you should know better. The codec completely oversaturated in this video not to mention LO RES!

Hopefully, it's just the trailer. But there is no proof of that either, so don't need to judge us for that.

Originally Posted by earmullet

And not one of you have even mentioned the lightsabers that cross in front of The Emperor in Jedi are now fixed.

Not true. Although that fix could be the "completely oversaturated codec". Am I right?

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by earmullet

I cannot believe you guys are going on about this new trailer. Adywan, especially you should know better. The codec completely oversaturated in this video not to mention LO RES! And not one of you have even mentioned the lightsabers that cross in front of The Emperor in Jedi are now fixed.

The fix on the crossed sabers in front of the Emperor was mentioned shortly after the video was posted. That to me was the biggest sin, so I am thrilled they corrected it.

Sadly, they didn't get to fixing all the sabers, and really they should have. But I am going to live with the pinkish saber in Empire and get the full Saga as a sure thing now. I would have loved it to be the original 'angry red' color it used to be, as I always thought the color of Vader's saber was clearly an extension of his character. Giving him a pinkish saber is more "Hello there!" than "I want to destroy you!" Maybe its because of the low quality video feed (which is crazy, they should have the trailer up in HD, no?). But at it looks like there are just a few color issues to contend with and not a train wreck transfer like 04. Should be a good time in Sept.