Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[chip75]

Give him a break. I'm sure his first thought was. Shit, I hope I didn't leave the stove on.... I'm sure he would have puked in a bucket if there was one close enough.

He looks resolute with grim determination.

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[octagon]

Originally Posted by Cook

Lol what did you expect, a cliche NOOOOOO! with hands raised to the sky in anguished fury? In an trauma such as that the emotion is usually beyond words. Now, had the scene been lacking Williams wonderful score I would question it. Music is used to convey and enhance a scene. In this case John Williams music convey Luke's silent grief while also conveying the realization that fate is steering him towards his destiny.

I dunno, it never (and by never I mean the first time through in the 70s too) really played that way for me either. Something about the 'there's nothing to keep me here now' (or whatever it was) line never sounded quite right - it was more like his family's deaths were liberating rather than tragic.

It wasn't terrible nor even distracting. It just wasn't quite right.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Cook

Lol what did you expect, a cliche NOOOOOO! with hands raised to the sky in anguished fury? In a trauma such as that the emotion is usually beyond words. Now, had the scene been lacking Williams wonderful score I would question it. Music is used to convey and enhance a scene. In this case John Williams music conveyed Luke's silent grief while also conveying the realization that fate is steering him towards his destiny. Personally I prefer Luke's silent grief with just the music and his body language conveying the emotion.

Why not? Obiwan got a nooooooo. Actually, I was hoping for a little tear.

[mrr1]

I think the scene is perfect. Luke arrives in a panic and sees everything burning he sees his uncle and aunt's charred remains... he drops his head and looks a bit choked up, then we see a shot from behind him standing in front of his burning farm as John Williams' score hits, then it cuts to a scene on the Death Star.

For all we know, Luke (probably) fell into the fetal position and cried for about two hours before he mustered up enough guts to man up and drive back to Obi-Wan (which is the next time we see Luke).

[Walter E Kurtz]

arent these the people that have raised him his whole life?....he just pulls a little face and then flys back to obi one

i dunno, just would have expected some tears at least....

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[Cook]

In the scene in Obi-wans hut Luke insists that he can not leave and that he has responsibilities on tattooine. However, fate or the force have other plans for him. When he arrives at his aunt and unvles house to find them dead and nothing left for him there the scene is suppossed to get across that fate is making sure Luke goes with obi-wan because it is his destiny. Luke realizes that everything he had holding him there is gone. He is accepting his fate and also dealing with the loss of his aunt and uncle. Its conflicting emotions. Lucas set this scene up tp play this way. Yeah, maybr they could have added Luke screaming like a little child, but sometimes less is more, and it woulf have cheapened tje meaning behind the scene which wasn't the death of these people, but that Luke has a destiny and the force will see that he fullfills that destiny. I would say he did cry, but the audience doesn't have to be shown that.

[mrr1]

At any rate, this thread gets incredibly lame in between new news.

[octagon]

It's no Algonquin Round Table when there's news either.

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Beard Esquire

Star Wars: The Complete Saga (North America) REGION FREE
Films Will Be New 2011 Editions
Set will not contain the original theatrical versions
Available September 16, 2011

Originally Posted by FoxMulder

I have a quick but MOST important question: Is the US Box going to be codefree?

Fixed...

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by mrr1

I think the scene is perfect. Luke arrives in a panic and sees everything burning he sees his uncle and aunt's charred remains... he drops his head and looks a bit choked up, then we see a shot from behind him standing in front of his burning farm as John Williams' score hits, then it cuts to a scene on the Death Star.

I agree 100%. I´ve always thought that this scene was brilliantly played by all involved, with John Williams wonderful score kicking in and expressing Luke´s inner turmoil at seeing his Uncle and Aunt charred remains burning, turning away, then grudgingly looking back to face the truth, that his life on Tattoine has ended forever, finding the resolve to face his new destiny. One of the most iconic scenes in the whole OT and couldn´t have been done better IMHO.

Too many films these days have the incredibly cheesy ´Noooooooo!´ when a loved one dies. The beginning of the Clash of the Titans remake comes to mind, god awful.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by Walter E Kurtz

one thing that i always found a bit odd was lukes reaction after finding out his uncle and aunts burnt corpses....

did anyone else think he wasnt that bothered?

The original screenplay explains it better:

OWEN: You must understand I need you here, Luke.
LUKE: But it's a whole 'nother year.
OWEN: Look, it's only one more season.
Luke pushes his half-eaten plate of food aside and stands.
LUKE: Yeah, that's what you said last year when Biggs and Tank left.
AUNT BERU: Where are you going?
LUKE: Mind your own business! I wish you two were dead!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Cook

I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you like the scene or not?

No I like the scene. I hadn't noticed anything wrong with it until those guys ruined it....

As I said Luke looks resolute with determination, I guess there's some relief in there that he isn't going to be tied down to the moisture farm anymore. But he's pretty appalled at how things turned out.

Resolute with grim determination....

[Walter E Kurtz]

he doesnt have to shout 'noooooo'

i always think of russel crowes peformance when he discovers his wife and kids charred bodies in gladiator as one of the most powerful ive seen.

hes a young kid and these are probably the first dead bodies he has seen AND theyre the people that have raised him since he was a kid...

like others said it was more like 'phew, thank god theyre gone, NOW can i go to alderaan?'

just seemed odd thats all...

[Walter E Kurtz]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

The original screenplay explains it better:

OWEN: You must understand I need you here, Luke.
LUKE: But it's a whole 'nother year.
OWEN: Look, it's only one more season.
Luke pushes his half-eaten plate of food aside and stands.
LUKE: Yeah, that's what you said last year when Biggs and Tank left.
AUNT BERU: Where are you going?
LUKE: Mind your own business! I wish you two were dead!

so luke killed his uncle and aunt?

[Cook]

Originally Posted by chip75

Give him a break. I'm sure his first thought was. Shit, I hope I didn't leave the stove on.... I'm sure he would have puked in a bucket if there was one close enough.

He looks resolute with grim determination.

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Originally Posted by chip75

No I like the scene. I hadn't noticed anything wrong with it until those guys ruined it....

As I said Luke looks resolute with determination, I guess there's some relief in there that he isn't going to be tied down to the moisture farm anymore. But he's pretty appalled at how things turned out.

Resolute with grim determination....

Oh gotcha and I agree. Its one of the sagas most powerful scenes for me.

[Petyr_Baelish]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

The original screenplay explains it better:

OWEN: You must understand I need you here, Luke.
LUKE: But it's a whole 'nother year.
OWEN: Look, it's only one more season.
Luke pushes his half-eaten plate of food aside and stands.
LUKE: Yeah, that's what you said last year when Biggs and Tank left.
AUNT BERU: Where are you going?
LUKE: Mind your own business! I wish you two were dead!

You made me laugh. Though its completely believable.

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by mrr1

I think the scene is perfect. Luke arrives in a panic and sees everything burning he sees his uncle and aunt's charred remains... he drops his head and looks a bit choked up, then we see a shot from behind him standing in front of his burning farm as John Williams' score hits, then it cuts to a scene on the Death Star.

If Luke gives Obi-Wan the same reaction, we the viewer may worry Luke is becoming catatonic. Maybe Lucas could re-edit a fountain sequence like the one found in Scarecrow with Al Pacino.

But seriously, I think once is enough with the emotion. We get it with Luke's reaction. Obi-Wan knows Luke is in anguish and he gives him a look of sympathy and great respect for Luke's courage to carry on. After all, that's what makes a hero, the ability to persevere and rise to the top, and Luke does just that. It's fitting in its context.

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

The original screenplay explains it better:

OWEN: You must understand I need you here, Luke.
LUKE: But it's a whole 'nother year.
OWEN: Look, it's only one more season.
Luke pushes his half-eaten plate of food aside and stands.
LUKE: Yeah, that's what you said last year when Biggs and Tank left.
AUNT BERU: Where are you going?
LUKE: Mind your own business! I wish you two were dead!

That final line was very rightly cut out. It makes Luke sound like a petulant child.

Having Anakin in the PT as a spoilt petulant brat was enough for me. One of the reasons I didn´t like the PT all that much is that Anakin is such an unlikable character from the very beginning of the second film right to the end of the third film so you really don´t care that he falls to the dark side at the end of Revenge of the Sith. He has no real character arc in that sense (he´s bad right from the start so there´s be no real change/character development there) and the prequels trilogy is all the worse for it IMHO.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Walter E Kurtz

arent these the people that have raised him his whole life?....he just pulls a little face and then flys back to obi one

i dunno, just would have expected some tears at least....

Then once Obi Wan was gone, he acted like he knew the guy his entire life ("I can't believe he's gone.") when it was just a few days. lol

[Walter E Kurtz]

Originally Posted by Cook

In the scene in Obi-wans hut Luke insists that he can not leave and that he has responsibilities on tattooine. However, fate or the force have other plans for him. When he arrives at his aunt and unvles house to find them dead and nothing left for him there the scene is suppossed to get across that fate is making sure Luke goes with obi-wan because it is his destiny. Luke realizes that everything he had holding him there is gone. He is accepting his fate and also dealing with the loss of his aunt and uncle. Its conflicting emotions. Lucas set this scene up tp play this way. Yeah, maybr they could have added Luke screaming like a little child, but sometimes less is more, and it woulf have cheapened tje meaning behind the scene which wasn't the death of these people, but that Luke has a destiny and the force will see that he fullfills that destiny. I would say he did cry, but the audience doesn't have to be shown that.

hmmm when you put it like that i guess it does make sense.

i bet he was balling his eyes out on the way back to obi one

perhaps there is a deleted scene? it would make me feel better, ha...