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RayCRP · 05-15-2014, 06:56 AM

It's always astounding how people justify stealing or cheating. Gray area, lol.

Illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you use a sharing website to download one song by a struggling composer or the movies by a billionaire director now owned by a hundred billion dollar corporation. Doesn't matter if they sue, can't sue, or choose not to care. Stealing is stealing.

Geoff D · 05-15-2014, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

It came out in 2000. Just after the Phantom Menace on VHS ( I believe)
and had a few new edits.
It was the set that started the Matching/Alternating Spines for TPM, AotC, ANH, TESB, RofJ... RotS got left out because the USA never got a VHS of that film.
Black/White/Black/White or the opposite way, I can't check my set as it is in Storage.

The only changes I remember from this set were:
Jedi - The first time the Jedi Temple was seen in Jedi.
Empire - Removed Luke's '97 Edition Yell.

Also, it was again in a SlipBox, but had a Clear Plastic Sleeve.

I've got the VHS and JPN LD boxsets of the EpII re-release trilogy. They're exactly the same as the 1997 versions. You say you can't check your set, how about I check mine?

Geoff D · 05-15-2014, 11:28 AM

Just dusted off the old VHS deck. I checked for Luke's scream in Empire and for the Jedi Temple in Coruscant celebration scene in the 2000 re-releases as pictured below. They're exactly the same as the 1997 versions.

Anyone want any other VHS versions checked to see if their memory is playing tricks on them? (Badass Executor boxset not pictured)

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by raycrp

it's always astounding how people justify stealing or cheating. Gray area, lol.

Illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you use a sharing website to download one song by a struggling composer or the movies by a billionaire director now owned by a hundred billion dollar corporation. Doesn't matter if they sue, can't sue, or choose not to care. Stealing is stealing.

+1.

Guydowood · 05-15-2014, 11:35 AM

funny thing about Luke's scream, is it's the emperor's scream from Jedi.

on the flip side, I'm confident that one day Disney will release the unaltered trilogy. Lucas can't say no anymore since giving up his ownership of sorts.
All we have to do is listen to Obi-Wan "Patience"

klauswhereareyou · 05-15-2014, 12:33 PM

Actually since I'd assume the PQ would be better than the current discs, if they somehow couldn't put out the original versions, I'd go for the '97 Special Editions on blu-ray. I'm guessing that whatever masters were used for the 2004 dvd versions and the 2011 blu-rays, that the special editions were the basis for them, so maybe if they went back to them the PQ would be better.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2014, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Guydowood

funny thing about Luke's scream, is it's the emperor's scream from Jedi.

on the flip side, I'm confident that one day Disney will release the unaltered trilogy. Lucas can't say no anymore since giving up his ownership of sorts.
All we have to do is listen to Obi-Wan "Patience"

Speaking of listening to Obi-Wan let's hope they get rid of the awful dragon call in IV and go back to the original.

Geoff D · 05-15-2014, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Speaking of listening to Obi-Wan let's hope they get rid of the awful dragon call in IV call and go back to the original.

Fourth time's the charm. The original was perfect, the 2004 edition had that siren-type sound and I don't what the **** that was in the 2011 version. I'd love to have the original sound put back, even if it is the same as the Dewback's call. Another win for the '97 edition!

HeavyHitter · 05-15-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Speaking of listening to Obi-Wan let's hope they get rid of the awful dragon call in IV and go back to the original.

No question - the latest sounds terrible.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2014, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

No question - the latest sounds terrible.

The call on the BD is passable, barely. The main problem is that the sound is obviously edited in. It just doesn't fit at all.

HeavyHitter · 05-15-2014, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

The call on the BD is passable, barely. The main problem is that the sound is obviously edited in. It just doesn't fit at all.

On the BD it sounds like someone got kicked in the balls.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2014, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

On the BD it sounds like someone got kicked in the balls.

klauswhereareyou · 05-15-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

Fourth time's the charm. The original was perfect, the 2004 edition had that siren-type sound and I don't what the **** that was in the 2011 version. I'd love to have the original sound put back, even if it is the same as the Dewback's call. Another win for the '97 edition!

I remember reading somewhere on-line saying the 2011 version sounded like Richard Simmons getting hit in the balls.

blonde_devil · 05-15-2014, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RayCRP

It's always astounding how people justify stealing or cheating. Gray area, lol.

Illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you use a sharing website to download one song by a struggling composer or the movies by a billionaire director now owned by a hundred billion dollar corporation. Doesn't matter if they sue, can't sue, or choose not to care. Stealing is stealing.

I am not going to get into the whole stealing is stealing debate but I will say this - you are allowed to make a back-up copy of movies, cd, etc in most countries for your own use - ripping to mp3 or making a mobile copy for example. However, downloading Phantom Edit is not the same as it is not a back-up of Phantom Menace. Rappers got in trouble for "sampling" songs and not paying for them, this isn't very different. Any alternation changes it because if you had access to that version to begin with, you wouldn't need that alternate version would you? But it is up to the studios to enforce things too as if you let things slide, that is where the grey area comes into play. Lucas Film has allowed and encourages these sort of things so you can't say it is stealing straight out as they know and don't do anything about it.

The Passenger · 05-15-2014, 03:36 PM

WELL THANKS ALOT YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ ' DOUNT! YOU JUST TOLD US THAT HAN AND LEIA ARE MARRIED! "THANKS ALOT" ASS

This was in the news this morning! WTF!

Adam Driver May Play Han & Leia's Dark Side-Loving Son In 'Star Wars: Episode VII'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

HeavyHitter · 05-15-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Passenger

WELL THANKS ALOT YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ ' DOUNT! YOU JUST TOLD US THAT HAN AND LEIA ARE MARRIED! "THANKS ALOT" ASS

This was in the news this morning! WTF!

Adam Driver May Play Han & Leia's Dark Side-Loving Son In 'Star Wars: Episode VII'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

I guess to me that is not a big surprise. lol

wormraper · 05-15-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Passenger

WELL THANKS ALOT YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ ' DOUNT! YOU JUST TOLD US THAT HAN AND LEIA ARE MARRIED! "THANKS ALOT" ASS

This was in the news this morning! WTF!

Adam Driver May Play Han & Leia's Dark Side-Loving Son In 'Star Wars: Episode VII'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

wow, people didn't see this coming a mile away from the ending of Jedi???? seriously? that's like saying "Luke Skywalker is now a jedi master after 30 years"

blonde_devil · 05-15-2014, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Passenger

WELL THANKS ALOT YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ ' DOUNT! YOU JUST TOLD US THAT HAN AND LEIA ARE MARRIED! "THANKS ALOT" ASS

This was in the news this morning! WTF!

Adam Driver May Play Han & Leia's Dark Side-Loving Son In 'Star Wars: Episode VII'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

Wow, this ranks right up there in terms of surprise with hearing Luke, Han and Leia will be in the new movie

octagon · 05-15-2014, 04:45 PM

Who says they're married?

That Has is a scoundrel, after all.

HD Goofnut · 05-15-2014, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

Who says they're married?

That Has is a scoundrel, after all.

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05-15-2014, 11:28 AM	#46063
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	Just dusted off the old VHS deck. I checked for Luke's scream in Empire and for the Jedi Temple in Coruscant celebration scene in the 2000 re-releases as pictured below. They're exactly the same as the 1997 versions. Anyone want any other VHS versions checked to see if their memory is playing tricks on them? (Badass Executor boxset not pictured) Last edited by Geoff D; 05-15-2014 at 11:33 AM.

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The Passenger Active Member Member since:Feb 2013 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:19	Star Wars: The Complete Saga, Original & Prequel Trilogy - Sept 16, 2011 - Review WELL THANKS ALOT YOU _ _ _ _ _ _ ' DOUNT! YOU JUST TOLD US THAT HAN AND LEIA ARE MARRIED! "THANKS ALOT" ASS This was in the news this morning! WTF! Adam Driver May Play Han & Leia's Dark Side-Loving Son In 'Star Wars: Episode VII' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...usaolp00000592

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05-15-2014, 06:56 AM	#46061
RayCRP Expert Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Chicago-ish Blu-ray collection:47 DVD collection:33	It's always astounding how people justify stealing or cheating. Gray area, lol. Illegal is illegal. Doesn't matter if you use a sharing website to download one song by a struggling composer or the movies by a billionaire director now owned by a hundred billion dollar corporation. Doesn't matter if they sue, can't sue, or choose not to care. Stealing is stealing.

05-15-2014, 11:35 AM	#46065
Guydowood Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Guydowood 4K collection:1430 Blu-ray collection:3246 DVD collection:74 MA collection:1255 Digital collection:1620 iTunes collection:1511 Prime collection:1266 Blu-ray reviews: 4281 Trading Score:53	funny thing about Luke's scream, is it's the emperor's scream from Jedi. on the flip side, I'm confident that one day Disney will release the unaltered trilogy. Lucas can't say no anymore since giving up his ownership of sorts. All we have to do is listen to Obi-Wan "Patience"

05-15-2014, 12:33 PM	#46066
klauswhereareyou Blu-ray Knight Member since:Mar 2012 4K collection:232 Blu-ray collection:2199 Digital collection:22 Prime collection:1	Actually since I'd assume the PQ would be better than the current discs, if they somehow couldn't put out the original versions, I'd go for the '97 Special Editions on blu-ray. I'm guessing that whatever masters were used for the 2004 dvd versions and the 2011 blu-rays, that the special editions were the basis for them, so maybe if they went back to them the PQ would be better.

05-15-2014, 04:45 PM	#46079
octagon Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jun 2010 Location:Chicago 4K collection:255 Blu-ray collection:2799	Who says they're married? That Has is a scoundrel, after all.

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