Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[4K display]

Does anyone know if the stills posted on HDR are actually from the Blu-rays?

As a little bonus treat to help pass the time, enjoy a series of 1920x1080 (compressed) stills from the Prequel Trilogy below.

- Dan Bradley

[goldenrod]

Not very good with all the blu-ray techincals (movie grain, DNR, etc)

here's my question, the movies will have 6.1 mixes, and I only have a 5.1 HT at home, does that mean that the 6th channel (rear one?) will simultaneously on the left and right surround instead?

[Beast]

No. They're likely from the Digital Source Files. They're not screencaps from the Blu-Rays.

[42041]

Originally Posted by Beast

They're not screencaps from the Blu-Rays.

And as such, there is no guarantee that they're captured correctly for accurate rendering of the blu-ray colors on your PC. The black bars in those 1080p shots are at RGB level 16 which is already wrong.

[Sith]

Those pictures are awesome in my opinion. We all know how the pictures don't always stack up to what we see on our display. So if it looks clearer when the blu's drop, it's over.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by goldenrod

Not very good with all the blu-ray techincals (movie grain, DNR, etc)

here's my question, the movies will have 6.1 mixes, and I only have a 5.1 HT at home, does that mean that the 6th channel (rear one?) will simultaneously on the left and right surround instead?

If you have a 5.1 setup, it will just fold the rear center surround into your back left and right surounds in mono, so no sound information will be lost, you just won't get that extra seperate channel sent discretely to the back speaker(s). Even if you have a 7.1 setup, your back two speakers will still receive their own mono discreet sound to each. Each of the two rear surrounds will just split the discreet rear surround, producing the exact same sound.

[killermike2178]

Originally Posted by goldenrod

Not very good with all the blu-ray techincals (movie grain, DNR, etc)

here's my question, the movies will have 6.1 mixes, and I only have a 5.1 HT at home, does that mean that the 6th channel (rear one?) will simultaneously on the left and right surround instead?

Yes. The rear channel comes in through the left and right surrounds instead, giving you a more fuller surround experience. LOTR EE has 6.1 DTS-HD MA, too, and it sounds great on my ONKYO HT-S3300, although, my surround speakers are behind me instead of to my sides. Still, they sound great, and I'm sure Star Wars' 6.1 mixes will sound great on it, too!

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by frogmort

If you have a 5.1 setup, it will just fold the rear center surround into your back left and right surounds in mono, so no sound information will be lost, you just won't get that extra seperate channel sent discretely to the back speaker(s). Even if you have a 7.1 setup, your back two speakers will still receive their own mono discreet sound to each. Each of the two rear surrounds will just split the discreet rear surround, producing the exact same sound.

Thanks for answering that for him Joe, Was wondering if someone would before me

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by killermike2178

Yes. The rear channel comes in through the left and right surrounds instead, giving you a more fuller surround experience. LOTR EE has 6.1 DTS-HD MA, too, and it sounds great on my ONKYO HT-S3300, although, my surround speakers are behind me instead of to my sides. Still, they sound great, and I'm sure Star Wars' 6.1 mixes will sound great on it, too!

LOTR is 5.1 ES matrix

Originally Posted by frogmort

If you have a 5.1 setup, it will just fold the rear center surround into your back left and right surounds in mono, so no sound information will be lost, you just won't get that extra seperate channel sent discretely to the back speaker(s). Even if you have a 7.1 setup, your back two speakers will still receive their own mono discreet sound to each. Each of the two rear surrounds will just split the discreet rear surround, producing the exact same sound.

Discrete.

[PeterTHX]

Nobody has BD captures yet.

[killermike2178]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

LOTR is 5.1 ES matrix

The theatrical versions of LOTR BD are 5.1 ES, while the extended edition BDs are discrete 6.1.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by killermike2178

The theatrical versions of LOTR are 5.1 ES, while the extended editions are discrete 6.1.

Yup - I have an old piece of crap "THX Select" DTS-ES amp, and it plays the extended LOTR DVDs (and a few others with the special encoding) in 6.1 discrete, not the matirxed rear channel of "Dolby Digital EX".

This same piece of crap amp, however, still seems to play my Blu soundtracks via optical input from my PS3, so I'm not anticipating any problems with the Star Wars blu-rays.

Having said that...I really need to get a new amp.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

In the strictest sense, "unaltered" means exactly that...no changes whatsoever. The moment you change anything - even for preservation purposes - the film is no longer in its original state. Therefore, other films like "The Wizard of Oz" or "Gone With the Wind" do not exist in their original forms, on the Blu-Ray format.

There are moments where I don't think you know what you are talking about (or you are talking things way too literally). Remastered to current standards is not altering the films. What everyone means by altering the films is adding things to the narrative structure (i.e. deleted scenes add back into the film). Unaltered means leaving the narrative the way it was when originally released (no unicorn and leaving the voice over). Every film released on blu ray has been 'remastered in High Definition' and by no means does that mean the original product of Gone with the Wind or The Wizard of Oz' have been altered. Have they been cleaned up so that you don't get scratches, pops and hisses? Of course, the marvels of modern technology are amazing. Especially in film preservation.

Anyway, lets just end this lil discussion and move back to the blu rays. I am thinking they should have this in the bonus features:

Porkins Video Tribute - YouTube

[frogmort]

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by Moz_90

WoooW ... 1080Pages

Originally Posted by THGhost

Lol, 1080 pages. Nice one, guys.

Lol - I think this thread has been thru 2-4 versions of "1080" pages in the last day or so...

Originally Posted by Jay444

Anyway, lets just end this lil discussion and move back to the blu rays. I am thinking they should have this in the bonus features:

Porkins Video Tribute - YouTube

Damn fast food. It gets even the best of those Fighter Pilots out there...



ON TOPIC:

I know this has prob been asked a few times, maybe one of the "insiders" here can answer. When does this site expect to have a review of the Complete (Saga) Set, & will it be done by just One of the regular reviewers, or maybe a couple different people?

[Show spoiler](yea yea, dumb question, maybe - but it'd be cool to see a few collective reviews to get a cross-reference/general consensus on the PQ/AQ of the set, the Extras, etc.)

[Jay444]

When in doubt and trying to lighten the mood with 'oh so serious' Star Wars fans, one should always have a video of Porkins qeued up and ready to go at a moments notice! I hope they have this one in lossless 6.1! LOL

Star Wars: Porkins' Deadly Fart - YouTube

Okay, had to get that out of my system. They said three quality control phases for the blu rays. I am more confident than ever that we are getting on helluva badass blu ray set!

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Aerodude73

Lol - I think this thread has been thru 2-4 versions of "1080" pages in the last day or so...



Damn fast food. It gets even the best of those Fighter Pilots out there...



ON TOPIC:

I know this has prob been asked a few times, maybe one of the "insiders" here can answer. When does this site expect to have a review of the Complete (Saga) Set, & will it be done by just One of the regular reviewers, or maybe a couple different people?

[Show spoiler](yea yea, dumb question, maybe - but it'd be cool to see a few collective reviews to get a cross-reference/general consensus on the PQ/AQ of the set, the Extras, etc.)

I think I remember seeing DetroitSportsFan talking about that. I beleive Casey Broadwater is doing the official blu-ray.com review.

[Aerodude73]

Originally Posted by frogmort

I think I remember seeing DetroitSportsFan talking about that. I beleive Casey Broadwater is doing the official blu-ray.com review.

Cool, thanks Mort'.

[phatrat1982]

well it turns out my adorable (stupid) niece is having a birthday on the 16th that I somehow forgot about. I tried to convince her mother to turn her birthday party into a Star Wars party but the people in this thread were a lot friendlier than she was to me just then. (My sister hates Star Wars) So I guess I am not going to be enjoying these movies on day one like I planned. Maybe if I take my laptop and headphones I can still watch them in 720p when no one is looking.

[Chiyo_chichi]

Man, it's been such a long time, I'm so tempted to pop in Empire or Jedi right now....but I want to hold off for the 16th for the ultimate experience!!

Ahhh!!!