Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by Beard Esquire

What is Quidco so I can add that to Post #2.

<----- From the United States...

It's a cashback website. http://www.quidco.com.

If you order goods from certain retailers (Tesco entertainment being one) by going through the links on their site, you get cashback. In tesco entertainments case, 8%.

After 15% off, price is £57,37 and then you get cashback into the bank account of your choosing to the tune of £4.59, making it £52.78 total.

First shot fired in the UK supermarket salvo. Lets see what comes next!

The OT and PT boxsets will be £28.63 after the 15% and £26.34 after the £2.29 Quidco cashback.

By the way, Quidco is free to join and has no obligations. You just use the site to get to the retailer and they pay you for it. An effecfive online partnership for advertising.

[ninjastar2120]

I can agree that not updating the light-sabers to modern standards is a letdown ... but the audio and music is amazingly epic! The score has never boomed that way before and for that I give the bluray a thumbs up in the audio department.

Note: Can someone please check that glitch that everyone mentions occurs towards the end of the movie. From what I read, that glitch was fixed last minute so if the glitch is still there, it would be possible that this is just an early copy of the bluray and not the final version. *Crosses fingers*

[Jumpman]

I know what it is in the other films. For some reason (and I honestly think that Lucas is keeping it this way as joke/wink/nod at this point), this scene has the saber basically white....

[tensionfilter]

Originally Posted by jyenor

But the saber isn't supposed to be white. It's blue. Anakin/Luke's saber is blue in the prequels, blue in Obi-Wan's hut, and blue in ESB. It's only white in one single scene. I can't see how that is supposed to be technically correct.

Though I already posted something stupid in here, just playing theorist now. Maybe like someone said maybe it was a non-lethal setting.
I'm sure Han wouldn't want an inexperienced Luke swinging around something that can slice a hole in his ship. *rationalizing shrug*

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

From theforce.net...credited to cheebo86

I skimmed through the entire leaked BR of A New Hope.

It has a new krayt dragon yell that sounds more human. So it is indeed the new 2011 edition.

I am afraid to report Luke's saber on the Falcon is indeed white/light green throughout the shot. It is not fixed.

And this goes directly to the PR shot from the restoration article on starwars.com

That is indeed the leak. It no longer has that shot of being almost dark teal like it was in that image but the saber is almost entirely pure white throughout the shot. Much like it was pre-2004.

Looking at it again it seems like they fixed ONLY the frames where it was a very dark teal/green color that came from the 2004 edition but they didn't fix the entire scene so all the shots of being pure white and faint green like it was in the SE and previous are still unfixed.

Basically, pre-Special Edition version of the scene....which is pretty much how I'd thought it would be.

Yeah, it does look like they only bothered to get rid of the dark teal in the one shot. That's a shame they couldn't be bothered with the rest in seven years. It does look more white compared to 2004 but the remaining shots still have a green glow around the saber that was never there prior to 2004. So those are still suffering from the 2004 screwup, only a little less glaring. They look nothing like the '97 Special Edition and Adywan's comparisons a few pages back prove that. Even the TFN poster you quoted makes mention of the light green glow on these saber shots. Also, earlier this morning, you stated the new shots were showing it to be blue, then aqua blue. I see you are now accepting the green truth

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

...and if you go via Quidco, another 8% cashback. Makes it £52 in total. Bargain.

I see, found the code page.

[SiUttley]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Bork,

Thank you. Pre-Special Edition of the scene.

Jump, if they hadn't issued their press release celebrating the fix, I don't think many would argue with you, but their press release didn't say, it will go back to the Pre-SE look, it made out the technical issue had been fixed and was thus now one of the sets selling points.

I get as bummed as you do when people are overly negative about SW but maybe this is an issue where it's good to meet half-way? Obviously if you really disagree then fair enough and I'll shut the hell up.

[Jumpman]

No. It's the way it is because, for some reason in comparison to the rest of the Saga, Lucas wants the saber in the scene to be basically white.

Again, I think it's a joke that Lucas is playing at this point. 34 years later and he doesn't fix this scene...and I don't think it has anything to do with quality checks.

I think Lucas just likes this scene the way it is with the white blade, no matter that it doesn't match up to how the blade is in the rest of the film, let alone the rest of the Saga.

[Jumpman]

Not saying I disagree but the press release said specially "specific shots". It didn't say every shot/every frame.

But that's beside the point. What needs to be asked is why is it that this specific scene is always troublesome to Lucasfilm and ILM, while the rest isn't?

If they fixed the crossed saber blades moment in Return of the Jedi and that specific PR shot from the article from A New Hope is fixed as well (as has been stated), why doesn't he just redo the lightsaber on every frame and every shot? Why?

[Weirded Wonder]

Thank you sir.

Post #2 adjusted.

Originally Posted by Merlinpants

It's a cashback website. http://www.quidco.com.

If you order goods from certain retailers (Tesco entertainment being one) by going through the links on their site, you get cashback. In tesco entertainments case, 8%.

After 15% off, price is £57,37 and then you get cashback into the bank account of your choosing to the tune of £4.59, making it £52.78 total.

First shot fired in the UK supermarket salvo. Lets see what comes next!

The OT and PT boxsets will be £28.63 after the 15% and £26.34 after the £2.29 Quidco cashback.

By the way, Quidco is free to join and has no obligations. You just use the site to get to the retailer and they pay you for it. An effecfive online partnership for advertising.

[jyenor]

I could understand it being wrong on the 2004 release. That whole thing was rushed and could go unnoticed. A lot of problems did. But on this? When it was in production for 3 years and extremely minor issues were fixed? They had to be aware it was white and left it in, but I am at a loss for why they would do that.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by jyenor

But the saber isn't supposed to be white. It's blue. Anakin/Luke's saber is blue in the prequels, blue in Obi-Wan's hut, and blue in ESB. It's only white in one single scene. I can't see how that is supposed to be technically correct.

It isn't correct by any stretch of the imagination. It was always flawed and white from 1977 on. In 2004, they accidentally turned it green, which it never was before. In their latest attempt to "fix" it, they got rid of the obvious teal shot. Now, the saber is more white than 2004 but still suffers from a mild green glow that was never there prior to 2004. If you go a few pages back, Adywan posted comparison shots from this version and the '97 SE's. No green prior to 2004.

[SiUttley]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Not saying I disagree but the press release said specially "specific shots". It didn't say every shot/every frame.

But that is such a lame defence (for LFL, not you personally). That is in no way the impression they were trying to convey with that release.

The inference most took from that sentence was that certain problem shots, or I would say sequences, had been fixed, and that what wouldn't happen would be all sabers throughout the saga looking like the prequel sabers.

I can see how they covered their asses, but it's obvious they were creating a selling point through the impression of fixes they hadn't fully made. It would have been better not to address the issue then let people be half-way satisfied that at least the sodding saber wasn't green anymore and back to its pre-SE look.

All they have done with this now is take the negative '04 buzz, which was vocal, if probably a minority feeling and poured oil over the flames by issuing a release they must have known they would be called out on.

It beggars belief, although this is SW so I guess we should be used to it by now.

[phansson]

I am beginning to think that Lucas does this on purpose to prove he has ownership of the movies. As for everyone saying that "specific shots" were fixed (and that was stated by Lucasfilm) in my world "specific shots" would actually mean "specific scenes". So I don't understand fixing 5 frames here and 5 frames there. It just doesn't make since unless you are trying to prove something, be extremely cheap (when you are a billionaire), or just stupid (I don't think that is the reason either).

As for me, I will still buy the movies because I am a huge Star Wars fan, but it doesn't change the fact that the mistakes should have been fixed.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by SiUttley

But that is such a lame defence. That is in no way the impression they were trying to convey with that release.

the inference most took from that sentence was that certain problem shots, or I would say sequences, had been fixed, and that what wouldn't happen would be all sabers throughout the saga looking like the prequel sabers.

I can see how they covered their asses, but it's obvious they were creating a selling point through the impression of fixes they hadn't fully made. It would have been better not to address the issue then let people be half-way satisfied that at least the sodding saber wasn't green anymore and back to its pre-SE look.

All they have done with this now is take the negative '04 buzz, which was vocal, if probably a minority feeling and poured fire over it by issuing a release they must have known they would be called out on.

It beggars belief, although this is SW so I guess we should be used to it by now.

I agree with your entire post. It's a shame but they didn't even get it back to its pre-2004 or pre-'97 look. Those new shots still show a green glow that was never there before 2004. It's just not as glaring. Just go back to Adywan's shots and there's no hint of green prior to 2004.

[Jumpman]

The inference most took from that sentence was that certain problem shots, or I would say sequences, had been fixed, and that what wouldn't happen would be all sabers throughout the saga looking like the prequel sabers.

I can see how they covered their asses, but it's obvious they were creating a selling point through the impression of fixes they hadn't fully made. It would have been better not to address the issue then let people be half-way satisfied that at least the sodding saber wasn't green anymore and back to its pre-SE look.

Totally agree.

[Kessel Run]

Review yet? How about now?

[jyenor]

It's more painful to know that Lucasfilm knows there was a problem with that scene but still didn't fix it than in 2004 when it just seemed like they were oblivious to it. Now it just feels like its intentional that they are doing this to us.

[Jumpman]

I don't know for sure but how else do you explain the fact that this one scene has always been a trouble spot for ILM to fix....how else do you explain it when they can produce the same consistent blade through out the Prequels...and through out the Originals...and yet this scene, they never, ever got right.

How do you explain it or than it's either a joke on Lucas' part or he just likes it the way it is....

[jyenor]

This is like getting a math problem on a test wrong as: 2+2=6 But now they "correct it" and answer 2+2=5. Being closer to right doesn't mean it isn't still wrong.