Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 121 - Blu-ray Forum

Jimmy Smith · 08-15-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

What's even more interesting in this argument is that fans "technically" don't want the theatrical versions either.

Case in point, Luke's lightsaber on the Falcon in Episode IV. No matter which version you watch, it was never right. Yet, fans have always wanted that fixed.

But, that technically wouldn't be the "theatrical version" of Star Wars would it?

There are mistakes within the Original Trilogy that fans, for decades, have always wanted fixed properly. Matte lines and boxes anyone?

I wouldn't be surprised if the Blu-Rays contained yet more changes to over the 2004 DVDs. What bothers me about the Special Editions is less about what Lucas did change but more what he didn't. The 1997 special edition left the matte lines around the rancor, and the flickering lightsabers, and white boxes while feeling the need to make Greedo shoot first for no reason.

The only upcoming change we know of is that Yoda for The Phantom Menace has been changed to a computer generated character. Extras on Revenge of the Sith DVD show this was done a while ago and I think we can assume that the Blu-Ray will premire the new Yoda.

Jumpman · 08-15-2010, 02:11 PM

Jimmy,

I expect those types of changes (matte lines, etc.) will be fixed on this set. In HD, it'll look even worse if not fixed.

And remember, Episode I looks really bad on DVD in this day and age. I'm very, very curious to see what that film looks like. It's the one that needs the most remastering.

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:13 PM

To be fair, the new Yoda has already premiered. It's in the footage shown during the Star Wars concerts.

Jumpman · 08-15-2010, 02:15 PM

Beast,

How much footage was it? Was it only the scene we saw on the Revenge of the Sith DVD supplements?

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Beast,

How much footage was it? Was it only the scene we saw on the Revenge of the Sith DVD supplements?

I'm not sure. I am only going by reports of people who have attended.

But I certainly hope this guarentees the end of the fugly TPM Yoda Puppet.

Batman1980 · 08-15-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beast

I'm not sure. I am only going by reports of people who have attended.

But I certainly hope this guarentees the end of the fugly TPM Yoda Puppet.

Too old, yes too old to begin the training.

DRS · 08-15-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pirate King

It is somewhat amusing, that the people who are screaming for the original theatrical releases of episodes IV, V and VI of the Star Wars movies, are the same people who are not happy with the original theatrical releases of the Lord of the Rings. Quite amusing, actually.

Umm, sorry, but that is not at all the same thing

LOTR movie were created from the get go with the intention of having 2 cuts. Both are valid.

The whining about LOTR comes from being forced to double dip rather then getting a single comprehensive set, despite consumers having already double dipped on DVD.

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:20 PM

Found an article about the concert...

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As the orchestra plays and the choir sings, a giant high-definition LED screen (measuring 60 feet wide and 35 feet tall) will show clips from all six movies, the footage matched to the music. The footage unfolds in rough chronological order but also is organized around musical themes -- a little romance here, the rise of the dark side there.

For the first time, audiences will be able to see a fully digital Yoda in "Star Wars: Episode 1 -- The Phantom Menace," as Lucas recently excised the poorly executed Yoda puppet that originally was part of the film. Anthony Daniels, who lent his voice to the golden protocol droid C-3PO in all "Star Wars" movies, narrates the proceedings.

Batman1980 · 08-15-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DRS

Umm, sorry, but that is not at all the same thing

LOTR movie were created from the get go with the intention of having 2 cuts. Both are valid.

The whining about LOTR comes from being forced to double dip rather then getting a single comprehensive set, despite consumers having already double dipped on DVD.

So Peter Jackson goes to their houses and points a gun at these people until they buy both cuts of his movies? Got it.

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

So Peter Jackson goes to their houses and points a gun at these people until they both cuts of his movies? Got it.

Much like Lucas sends out his Stormtroopers across the globe to reaquire every original theatrical version out there. Whether it be Film, Betamax, VHS, Laserdisc, or DVD. And then gleefully watches them being burned while naked (except for a flannel vest), and being pleasured by girls in Oola costumes.

aiman04 · 08-15-2010, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigErn

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Even if I liked the 1997 changes you cant buy them seperatley you have to buy those jacked up 2004 versions with that crap called the prequel trilogy.

The vote shows 93% of the forum members want to buy that prequel trilogy crap in one form or another. Looks like the majority likes the prequels.

Jumpman · 08-15-2010, 02:29 PM

These films will always be sold as one from now on, since it's complete.

People might want to start getting use to that. I don't see Lucas splitting them up anymore.

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

These films will always be sold as one from now on, since it's complete.

People might want to start getting use to that. I don't see Lucas splitting them up anymore.

At least not anytime soon. It took what? Two years to get individual releases of the OT?

But I agree. The entire Saga is basically one long movie. Time to start treating it like that.

TheOneWithThePrize · 08-15-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by aiman04

The vote shows 93% of the forum members want to buy that prequel trilogy crap in one form or another. Looks like the majority likes the prequels.

Bad example, that is a multiple choice poll. There are people who chose more than one choice thus tipping the scale.

Beast · 08-15-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Bad example, that is a multiple choice poll. There are people who chose more than one choice thus tipping the scale.

The results arn't that skewed. You do realize the DVD sales of the Prequels were huge, right?

TheOneWithThePrize · 08-15-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

These films will always be sold as one from now on, since it's complete.

People might want to start getting use to that. I don't see Lucas splitting them up anymore.

If you believe that you are truly dillusional. Fox will put out separate box sets as well as releasing each film on their own.

Batman1980 · 08-15-2010, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

If you believe that you are truly dillusional. Fox will put out separate box sets as well as releasing each film on their own.

Fox has absolutely no rights as far as releasing these films goes, George Lucas was smart enough to make sure he would always have those rights.

TheOneWithThePrize · 08-15-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Gandalf Stormcrow

Fox has absolutely no rights as far as releasing these films goes, George Lucas was smart enough to make sure he would always have those rights.

And obviously he invoked the right to only have one boxed set of all 6 films on DVD. Right...

Batman1980 · 08-15-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

And obviously he invoked the right to only have one boxed set of all 6 films on DVD. Right...

What? Star Wars had multiple releases on DVD, both in sets and individually, remains to be seen what he will do with blu-ray.

aiman04 · 08-15-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOneWithThePrize

Bad example, that is a multiple choice poll. There are people who chose more than one choice thus tipping the scale.

Those who vote the prequels can vote other versions as well of course. What really matters is that they still want the prequels, the 93% is valid.

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The Prequel Box Set	20	1.09%
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08-15-2010, 02:11 PM	#2402
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1783 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	Jimmy, I expect those types of changes (matte lines, etc.) will be fixed on this set. In HD, it'll look even worse if not fixed. And remember, Episode I looks really bad on DVD in this day and age. I'm very, very curious to see what that film looks like. It's the one that needs the most remastering.

08-15-2010, 02:13 PM	#2403
Beast Blu-ray Champion Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:376 Blu-ray reviews:3	To be fair, the new Yoda has already premiered. It's in the footage shown during the Star Wars concerts.

08-15-2010, 02:15 PM	#2404
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1783 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	Beast, How much footage was it? Was it only the scene we saw on the Revenge of the Sith DVD supplements?

08-15-2010, 02:29 PM	#2412
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1783 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	These films will always be sold as one from now on, since it's complete. People might want to start getting use to that. I don't see Lucas splitting them up anymore.

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