Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[HandyDandy]

Originally Posted by DarthMarino

Handy, why are you STILL questioning the legitimacy of these things? All 3 movies are readily available to those who are looking for them. It's not like only 1 person is posting this. Not to mention that they HAVE proven it to us with countless comparison screenshots and even videos in some cases. Lucasfilm hasn't denied any of this (believe me, they are reading the forums and must be embarrassed right now) and even confirmed the major change that has been found in the leak. Waiting for a review isn't going to magically change what's on the final retail disc.

Why then at numerous times did they say they fixed stuff if they did not.

[whaleman]

Originally Posted by bboisvert

If the changes are not a hoax, how can the unfixed FX be a hoax?

Your avatar sir is awesome.

[DarthMarino]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

If the site that is saying that nothing has been fixed than they need to prove it.

We've seen the screenshots! Side by side with the DVD screenshots. Color timing is the same. Many matte boxes remain. Lukes saber has 3 different colors in the training scene. What else do you want?

[DarthMarino]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Why then at numerous times did they say they fixed stuff if they did not.

Marketing. They wanted to win over people like us who care about these things so they literally fixed a handful of shots. We all saw the blue saber on the Falcon and got excited. That shot was legit but it didn't paint the whole picture.

[deado]

Originally Posted by nmycon

No we don't...

We have the rips, why do we need to wait 10 more days for reviews...

There have already been lists posted about the changes in both ANH and ESB.

Any list for ROTJ? I'm guessing that has the most changes overall?

[teamneedle]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

In terms of what was fixed we need to wait for the reviews to see if stuff was fixed as they say.

Don't believe some half-ass site who says that nothing was fixed if they are telling the truth then ask them to prove it show us that they have the movies in hand and if they don't then they are lying.

And don't give me that crap about I'LL GET IN TROUBLE LEGALLY IF I SHOW YOU.

right.... cause some reviewer who reviews 50+ discs a week is going to even know what changes needed to be made?

the only reviewers who are even accountable are the ones who check forums like this before they start their review so they know what to look for-

otherwise the reviews will be a praise fest exactly like 2004.

[LADodgers]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

And let's not forget The Wizard of Oz from 1939. Kids and adults have no problems watching Bert Lahr ponce around in a lion costume.

Maybe instead of trying to make the OT match 21st century visual f/x films, maybe the Prequels should have been produced to match late 70's, early 80's filmmaking tech.

Just a thought.

The lion should be redone in cgi!

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

If the site that is saying that nothing has been fixed than they need to prove it.

NOTE** If the person who leaked the scenes has not said anything about whether or not they fixed anything then we can assume they did fix some stuff. Otherwise it would be all over the web by now.

Non-responsive post is non-responsive.


Again, people have SEEN the rips and reported all of these changes (which have now been *confirmed* by LFL). So, what is there left to "prove"? The rips have the new changes ("noooooooooo!") and don't have the fixed FX.

[KS76]

Originally Posted by whaleman

As soon as I got home from work last night I saw for myself the "Nooooooo!" from the end of RotJ. Let me say that while I really wish the change had not been made, the change was not AS BAD as I expected it to be and could have been a lot worse. As I said, I still wish it was not added. The way some had made it out to be I was picturing Vader to start howling as soon as Emperor started electrocuting Luke. As it is, he watches for a good period and says "No" just before he picks him up.

Exactly, the change is nowhere near as significant as some are making it out to be. Drama queens much?
BTW, in ESB, Luke also has a similar sounding "NO," "NO" when he's reacting to learning that Darth Vader is his father. I would say that was Luke's rock bottom moment.
This is the beauty of the Complete Star Wars saga, everything has precedent, everything ties in together.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by deado

Any list for ROTJ? I'm guessing that has the most changes overall?

No, not yet.

I'm getting them from the forums over at milleniumfalcon.com

[HandyDandy]

Originally Posted by DarthMarino

Marketing. They wanted to win over people like us who care about these things so they literally fixed a handful of shots. We all saw the blue saber on the Falcon and got excited. That shot was legit but it didn't paint the whole picture.

What about the crossed-sabers in front of the emperor scene?
I thought that was fixed?

[LADodgers]

Originally Posted by KS76

Exactly, the change is nowhere near as significant as some are making it out to be. Drama queens much?
BTW, in ESB, Luke also has a similar sounding "NO" when he's reacting to learning that Darth Vader is his father. I would say that was Luke's rock bottom moment.
This is the beauty of the Complete Star Wars saga, everything has precedent, everything ties in together.

But at what cost? The Original Trilogy has been brought down to the level of the PT, so now the "Complete Saga" is just one long mediocre film series. Gone are the great films of the past. Oh well like I said more stuff for my shrink and I to discuss.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Jay444

I agree. Eventually the OT (unaltered) will be available, now is just not that time (probably with the 3D release). So, I will enjoy the PT and watch all those deleted scenes online via a popular streaming site...lol. I've calmed down a bit from the "NO. NOOOOO!" episode and just decided the current blu ray verisons of the OT are not worth my money.

I feel the same way. I think it will be released eventually too. I was really worked up about this yesterday, lol. Now, it's a somewhat frustrated but calm resignation.

I do want to see those deleted scenes. That's what has me on the fence right now.

[Monolithium]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Lucas always intended for Vader to say NOOOO.

The audio technology required to record someone speaking "No. Nooooooooooooooooooo!" did not exist in 1983. Or 1997. Or 2004.

They were truly dark times for the world of ADR.

[toddly6666]

I wonder what Richard Marquand would have thought about the "No...NOOOO!"

And I wonder what James Earl Jones thinks about it, maybe even saying it originally for this scene before it was cut out and now re-inserted?

[HandyDandy]

Can anyone confirm the P/Q quality??

[DarthMarino]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

What about the crossed-sabers in front of the emperor scene?
I thought that was fixed?

That was fixed. But numerous other issues, mostly related to the color timing that made everything pink or purple on Vaders saber, remain.

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Can anyone confirm the P/Q quality??

It's probably going to be an upgrade from the DVDs at least.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

And let's not forget The Wizard of Oz from 1939. Kids and adults have no problems watching Bert Lahr ponce around in a lion costume.

True. My little nephew and two of his friends were drawn into The Wizard of Oz over here last spring. They were scared at times as expected and thrilled at other moments. Nothing could pull them out of the film and they loved it. Just goes to show a well-made film will always work no matter its era.

I do find it odd today that you have this subset of people that think films always have to be updated regularly to match the latest technology.

Maybe instead of trying to make the OT match 21st century visual f/x films, maybe the Prequels should have been produced to match late 70's, early 80's filmmaking tech.

You may be right. I never understood going back in time to try and alter older films to match newer films.


You may have already heard this but I remember you asking about the Death Star explosion. I saw another post yesterday at a different board and the member claimed that the blue coloring was gone but the whole thing still had an almost black and white appearance. Just what I read in a post though.

[nmycon]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

Can anyone confirm the P/Q quality??

Confirm what, exactly?

Yes, it's 1080p, I know this because it says so on the back of the box