Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Beast]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Like I said, he would be shown up......as they would outsell the box set and even you know this. In fact those three films remasterd would be the largest selling blu rays to date.

I highly doubt it. Only the most hardcore fanboys are gonna care what version they buy.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Uhhh duh..... they were rips off of a laserdisc and were not even anamorphic! Please.....

You give them a proper release and they would sell like hotcakes. I guess you have been blind to all this over the years. If it were not such a big deal do you think Lucas would take the time to wear a Han Shot first Tshirt to mock us?

And? People were buying bootlegs of that version for years.

So clearly they didn't care about the quality of the releases previously.

It was only when they were officially released as a bonus feature, that people cried.

Again, I highly doubt they would sell better than the new versions. Also, why would he wear a shirt to poke fun at the Star Wars fanboys? Because they're so worthy of mockery. Even I understand that as a fan.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Like I said, he would be shown up......as they would outsell the box set and even you know this. In fact those three films remasterd would be the largest selling blu rays to date.

You have to be kidding. Millions of the SEs were sold. The general public who does the bulk of the buying of these movies don't care one whit what some outraged fanboys are crying about on the internet.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Like I said.....he should license the originals to Criterion and let them pay for the restoration. He would never do that because those three discs would outsell the box set hands down!

I bet you're wrong.

For one thing, coming from Criterion, they'd probably cost twice as much in retail, and the average person is going to look at it and say: "gee, Criterion collection Classic Edition, $39, Fox Home Video version, $20... I think I'll take the $20 version." Plus the fact that Criterion titles are not as widely distributed in as many retail outlets. And why should Lucas lease out his intellectual property to a competitor, anyway?

Your position is specious: on the surface it may appear reasonable, but it's really just bitterness. You hate George Lucas. My earlier "stalker" comment stands.

You have to be kidding. Millions of the SEs were sold. The general public who does the bulk of the buying of these movies don't care one whit what some outraged fanboys are crying about on the internet.

Exactly... internet people in their computer dungeons have an annoying tendency of thinking that the noise in their little chat-groups represents the opinion of the world.

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by TheForce8686

Why cant they have it this October? That is still 5 months away.

Yeah that would be nice.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

Nonsense... so, do you then not charge for your services if you're asked to do something that you've done before? I doubt that very much.

I don't do the same thing every day. I use a skill-set to keep people's bodies going. It's something that has to be done every day. When you make a movie, you do it once. Yes, it takes years to plan and execute, so being paid well for it makes sense. Hell, making the big bucks off of it makes sense! But releasing garbage with pretty effects, then re-releasing it over and over with slight modifications so the consumer keeps biting is corporate exploitation. You either see it or you don't.

I think I understand you: your work is noble, while his is sleazy... I suppose you're entitled to such staggering self-righteousness. Sounds a bit to me like professional jealousy: you think your work is more important to society, (and it probably is), and so you're mad that he makes more money than you.

Uh, no. I wasn't saying that at all, and you launching that pathetic attack confirms to me that you are on the weak side of the debate. I was talking about the nature of the corporate beast, and using the sad example of medicine to compare any corporate endeavor against. Corporations are about MONEY, and nothing else. That is what I was saying.

That's because there isn't a single franchise with so much continuing demand from the market. If people didn't want Star Wars so much, then Lucasfilm wouldn't be able to flog it. They are filling a demand.

Very true. Even with the division in the fan community that now exists, the movies still sell well enough for continued releases. Unfortunately, few on my side of the fence vote with their wallets. They just say. "Oh well, I'll just take what is offered."

Wow, you've really made up your mind that he can do no right. Sounds like a personal grudge, (against somebody that you don't even know).

No grudge. Just disappointment with SW and the occasional bewilderment that people still want to defend what most of us know is one of Hollywood's greatest letdowns. but again, as I said before: I understand why the fanbois continue their fight. I too used to love this universe with all of my heart.

It's impossible to move more than a billion dollars to charity without it being publicized. It's not like he took out space in the newspaper announcing it. And when you donate that much money, the associated "tax breaks" are pretty meaningless, they would amount to miniscule fraction of what he gave away.

Yes, it is pretty impossible to move that much money without getting some notice from the media. Pretty sure that was part of the idea.

You just have a deep, unwarranted hatred for The Flannel Man; and an apparent contempt for the free-market in general.

Well, I don't care about 'The Flannel Man,' but at least you got the last part right.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Uxi

Yeah that would be nice.

Yeah, just think we have a year of this back and forth discussion to look forward to.

God have mercy on us all.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I also note you ignored (or can't read all of a sudden, talk about blindness) the other films I listed.

Nah. I'm just tired and running out of keystrokes. Blood sugar low...going into diabetic coma.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Well, I don't care about 'The Flannel Man,' but at least you got the last part right.

That Che Guevara T-shirt you're wearing is choking off the blood to your brain. You still haven't answered being called out your lie about Lucas' marketing.

[BigErn]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

I bet you're wrong.

For one thing, coming from Criterion, they'd probably cost twice as much in retail, and the average person is going to look at it and say: "gee, Criterion collection Classic Edition, $39, Fox Home Video version, $20... I think I'll take the $20 version." Plus the fact that Criterion titles are not as widely distributed in as many retail outlets. And why should Lucas lease out his intellectual property to a competitor, anyway?

Your position is specious: on the surface it may appear reasonable, but it's really just bitterness. You hate George Lucas. My earlier "stalker" comment stands.

I don't hate Lucas, but I find it funny that his own peers and "friends" say the originals should be released! Film historians, well known critics....the list goes on and on that say release them. If they were not finished in 77,80 and 83 then they should have never been released. And there is a large camp that does not consider the new films at all. We are happy keeping the Original trilogy just that.

Those Criterions would be the fastest selling Blus ever. Just from the collectability aspect alone.

[Beast]

So.... Boba Fett toon?

Yes? No? Maybe?

[supersonic395]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Like I said.....he should license the originals to Criterion and let them pay for the restoration. He would never do that because those three discs would outsell the box set hands down!

No, they really would not outsell the Boxset.

The originals would only sell to the die hard fans (the majority would buy the newer versions).

I also question this ardent fanboyism. It really comes across as militant and fundamentalist behaviour. In fact the exact type of people who are easily brainwashed.....(if the right person was around......who knows)

Be free. And take it easy (granted Greedo shooting first is the bad change, pretty much all the others are fine and work with Eps I-III. Plus wasn't Lucas spotted wearing a T-Shirt saying "Han shoots first", which might be hinting at....)

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Beast

Yeah, just think we have a year of this back and forth discussion to look forward to.

God have mercy on us all.

This will be worse than the 'Predator DNR' thread!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by BigErn

I don't hate Lucas, but I find it funny that his own peers and "friends" say the originals should be released! Film historians, well known critics....the list goes on and on that say release them. If they were not finished in 77,80 and 83 then they should have never been released. And there is a large camp that does not consider the new films at all. We are happy keeping the Original trilogy just that.

Those Criterions would be the fastest selling Blus ever. Just from the collectability aspect alone.

"Films are not finished. They're abandoned."

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is another perfect example of a film that benefited from finally being finished as the Director intended years later on DVD. Shame we got the piss-poor theatrical cut on BLU.

And who cares what some film historians and critics have to say?

It's still just their opinion in the end. Their say isn't elevated over the common man's opinion. And using Roger Ebert, a man who has himself revised reviews as a basis for supporting your argument in a previous post is really not going to earn many points. Especially given a few comments he's directed at people.

Please. Have you seen Criterion sales? Even their highest selling movies don't sell that well. And if I recall correctly, wasn't their #1 seller of all time The Rock? Plus I doubt Criterion could afford to license them.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

That Che Guevara T-shirt you're wearing is choking off the blood to your brain. You still haven't answered being called out your lie about Lucas' marketing.

LOL I wear mediums when I really should be wearing 2X

It's not a lie. It's an opinion. Lucas has released the SW films over and over and over (did you count that, I only gave you three 'overs,' so I'm still being inaccurate ). Why does everyone on internet think everything said by everyone is somehow a projection of fact? Almost all of it is opinion, with about 106% of it being debatable, and 113% meaningless and doing nothing to advance the human race.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by BigErn

Those Criterions would be the fastest selling Blus ever. Just from the collectability aspect alone.

On what data do you base that assertion? No Criterion title, or any other high-priced "collector"-type title, has ever been a "top seller", no matter how ardently it is advocated by critics and snobs. If they were on the shelf, side-by-side, the overwhelming majority of consumers will pass on the Collector edition, the same way they have done in every other collector-vs-standard edition scenario. Name one single collector's edition that has outsold the standard edition.

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

That Che Guevara T-shirt you're wearing is choking off the blood to your brain.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

That Che Guevara T-shirt you're wearing is choking off the blood to your brain. You still haven't answered being called out your lie about Lucas' marketing.

Are these lame personal attacks really necessary? You're better than this. I think...

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Are these lame personal attacks really necessary? You're better than this. I think...

Dude, it was directed at me, and I thought it was funny!

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

This will be worse than the 'Predator DNR' thread!

There's no doubt about it, and we still have over a year to go.

Please guys, keep the bickering to a minimum, and lay off the personal attacks.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

I know it wasn't directed at me. Just saying the personal attacks are getting lame.

Man, all I said was I'm gonna wait on the original unaltered movies, and that I knew Lucas would deliver because he's a greedy bastoid. Then everyone went off. LOL