Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Adam.C]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Correct.
The review is an opinion but scientific analysis of the PQ are fact and can not be disputed.
Opinions are subjective. Scientific analysis is not but as we've seen in this thread, people will but a gold nugget polished into a turd.

What scientific analysis?

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by HandyDandy

What's your opinion of this site's review??

Sounds like they had a marathon watching the movies and didn't fully analyze it. Eyes and ear got fatigued so issues got overlooked easily.
I see the review more of an overview of skimming of the movies that does not encompass pointing out obvious flaws.

[DanzG]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Correct.
The review is an opinion but scientific analysis of the PQ are fact and can not be disputed.
Opinions are subjective. Scientific analysis is not but as we've seen in this thread, people will but a gold nugget polished into a turd.

Hey that is all good and wonderful and warm and fuzzy. My only problem was he just gave his opinion on the movies and several people on here bashed him for it, called him biased, and a Lucas fan boy with an agenda to push this set on unsuspecting people. I mean come on! You seem like a reasonable person, you have to agree that was uncalled for... lol

It really doesn't matter anymore anyways. The movies will be out for everyone soon and people will either love them or hate them, makes no difference to me. Trust me, I am not happy with the changes either but I still love Star Wars and am still looking forward to seeing the movies in Hi-Def

[swl72us]

Originally Posted by phansson

My point is this box set is/will be given a pass because it is Star Wars. People have blinders (blinkers) on when it comes to this set.

I for one think that reviewers should be hyper critical of this release. It deserves it.

If you are grading on 4 criteria and you average a 4.37, how can you give it a 5 out of 5? Just wondering......

Have you read reviews from other websites? I read a lot of video game and Blu Ray reviews and they never give an overall score as an average. The overall score is just that "overall". The reviewer looks at the release as a whole package and decides whether the pros outweigh the cons and swings the overall score one way or another. Most of my professors in college did this all the time for determining our final grade. Almost like grading on a curve. Casey obviously thought that this release as a whole package deserved 5/5.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

Sounds like they had a marathon watching the movies and didn't fully analyze it. Eyes and ear got fatigued so issues got overlooked easily.
I see the review more of an overview of skimming of the movies that does not encompass pointing out obvious flaws.

Aka... "The review wasn't significantly outraged in my opinion. So therefore, it's not valid."

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by DarkDune

Anyone else remember when the Original Trillogy came out as Special Editions in 1997? In a theater, people genuinely laugh during these movies. They are FUN, and that is why we've fallen in love with them for SO long!

My introduction to the saga occurred when the first movie had just been released in 1977. It was one of the few bright spots during a summer that was a difficult period for me, and I returned to the theater to see it many times. Consequently, the movie at that time known simply as "Star Wars" will always be one of my favorites.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by swl72us

Have you read reviews from other websites? I read a lot of video game and Blu Ray reviews and they never give an overall score as an average. The overall score is just that "overall". The reviewer looks at the release as a whole package and decides whether the pros outweigh the cons and swings the overall score one way or another. Most of my professors in college did this all the time for determining our final grade. Almost like grading on a curve. Casey obviously thought that this release as a whole package deserved 5/5.

Exactly. And while I'll disagree with him about his opinion of the Prequels and such, his review was more than fair and balanced.

[koreyman]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

There are two sides to that coin, my friend.

If you don't love every change Lucas made to SW, or accept the PQ as "reference" sight unseen, you're a 'hater with an agenda' and 'not a TRUE Star Wars fan'.

Don't act like "one side" of this argument is somehow more noble, I've seen just as much mud-slinging from either side.

so true

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by DanzG

So far I haven't heard anyone who actually owns them put them down yet. Both people here on this forum who I know had them spoke very highly about the movies. I am not saying I will agree with their opinions when I finally get the movies Friday and see them for myself or not I am just saying I was happy to hear they didn't suck as much as the people who never saw them except for screenshots or rips said they did.

I have no stance on the movies yet because I have not seen them. When I do I will have my own opinion then just like everyone else will have.


And why is it when someone makes an opinion on something its "biased"?? I mean just because he didn't agree with your take on the movies that makes it "bias"? That is just ridicules. lol

A lot of members of this site defended the PQ of the original Gladiator release so I'm convinced that some people will "see" & buy anything they want to and overlook serious issues even the studios thought required correction.

[Maggot]

I'll be getting the complete saga, but I'm glad the PQ is apparently better on the originals. I grew up on those and consider them movies, whereas the prequels play out more like video games.

[DanzG]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

A lot of members of this site defended the PQ of the original Gladiator release so I'm convinced that some people will "see" & buy anything they want to and overlook serious issues even the studios thought required correction.

Very true, I totally agree with that. Sad, but true.

[Illy Scorsese]

I just realized this set doesn't even include the "Empire of Dreams" Documentary from the 2004 DVD's...

SMH

[Coov]

Originally Posted by hdplasma

how about you start using capitalization and punctuation correctly.

lol!

[HDPlasma]

Originally Posted by Beast

Aka... "The review wasn't significantly outraged in my opinion. So therefore, it's not valid."

No more like.
"I knew the PQ was going to be awesome. Great to hear the review is spot on. Now I feel better. This validates my purchase & opinion."

[Adam.C]

I still want to know what "Scientific Analysis" HDPlasma preforms for his PQ scores...

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

I just realized this set doesn't even include the "Empire of Dreams" Documentary from the 2004 DVD's...

SMH

Yep. Gotta hold onto your past releases if you want all the extras.

Lucas tends to almost never carry over extras from one release to the next. Which I have to appreciate.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by HDPlasma

The positive reviews from those who got an early copy appear to be watching on small screens at 10-12 ft viewing.
This explains why the DNR, blinking Ewoks and other changes look "great."
Might as well break out the DVD.
Those with projectors, large screens and adequate viewing distance will still suffer from the PQ and storyline changes.

wow this is just aburd and from the review on this site the reviewers agree with me. I got and they look incredible on a 50 inch screen. i think that is a good size in screen size and i am sure the reviewers has watched them on larger screens and they don't complain

[Douglas Fir]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

"Blinkers"??



I think you mean "blinders"

I'm not sure where the original poster is located but here in the UK blinkers is the common term for what Americans call blinders.

[LimeiBook86]

Originally Posted by Illy Scorsese

I just realized this set doesn't even include the "Empire of Dreams" Documentary from the 2004 DVD's...

SMH

Yeah I'm upset about this too. I would have liked to have at least EoD and the trailers in HD. A 10th disc would have been very nice.

But for now I'll have to make my own 10th disc from my LaserDisc & DVD release extras! I'm just thankful I have my own copy of 'From Star Wars to Jedi' and 'The Making of The Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition' on DVD. *thank you DVD recorder*

Maybe they'll release them online or via BD-Live... but I doubt it. It's a shame too, but at least we got some other rare documentaries from the early days.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

I call crap on the notion that you can't tell the difference between Blu Ray and upconvert DVD on smaller displays at normal viewing distances.

At 9 and a half feet back on a 42", I can tell the immediate difference between Iron Man 2 on DVD and it being in HD.

I think that idea is complete bull....and yet, I hear it all the time from posters who have larger displays than the average customer.

i call crap as well. It is just ridiculous to state otherwise