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punisher · 09-17-2011, 02:06 AM

my take on TPM EP I

audio 4.5...excellent dialogue..excellent detail..but no demo material here ..a lot better out there

PQ 3...I would give it a 3.5 if any other movie, but there is no excuse for Lucas, the guru, the man who said no blus till he was sure blu was here to stay and then it would be done right..detail remarkable at times,but the DNR on the faces ,especially Liam Neeson is awful,I honestly cannot believe Lucas watched this transfer because it would make him cringe...sure the cgi and the cgi characters look great, but the main characters..the real live people ...is as bad as Predator only more disappointing as it is so unexpected here so it seems worse.. a washed out waxy face talking to a brilliant cgi character just doesn't make it it

my experience for TPM on video was first a 2 cd bootleg from ebay..followed by a vcd from e-bay and then a bootleg dvd from the ld on e-bay..all of course from the far east
then the legit dvd

this is a disappointing video transfer..I got what i expected B4..but did not expect this...I am using an OPPO BDP 83 to my PIONEER PRO ELITE 111FD plasma tv....in CALIBRATED STANDARD MODE..it was bad..SWITCHING TO OPTIMUM where the tv adjusts to room by a separate sensor,it was god awful..Pure video was bad..Movie mode saved the film and made it watchable after some tweaking

now to clarify,I am talking about the live character scenes,especially the close ups,the rest looks damn good

JMO ..there is a huge room for improvement on TPM

years ago i made a comment that some movies just don't look good on dvd,and later some will only look bad in HD..maybe it's coming back to haunt me NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

osum28 · 09-17-2011, 02:07 AM

Did they re edit the end of episode 2? Im talking specifically about right after yoda and dooku fight. Dooku uses the force to try to drop the big pillar on obi and anakin and yoda stops it in mid air and pushes it over and drops it on the floor. On the dvd, the next shot is the gunship flying over and stopping by the platform and letting padme and troopers off. Then it shows dookus ship flying off and away while padme and troopers are shooting at it. Then it shows the ship leaving the planet and flying off into space. The next shot is of anakin gasping and yoda looking concerned and using the force to get his cane and walking towards obi and anakin. Then it shows obi and anakin getting up and then a wide shot with padme running in.

The blu ray version shows yoda dropping the big pillar then cuts to anakin gasping on the floor and yoda looking concerned and getting his cane. Then it cuts to the ship taking off and padme shooting at it.

This new cut doesnt flow well at all with the music. At first I thought maybe some of it was completely cut but then all the shots are there but out of order.

Anyone else notice this? Do I have a bad copy? Sorry if this is confusing. Just watch the dvd and the blu ray and you will see what I mean.

Thank you,

Matt

vassillios · 09-17-2011, 02:08 AM

Ep III pic quality is amazing....audio also

Jutty · 09-17-2011, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyB

No...smaller collectibles like the Vader piece.

Nice..whats that 1/6 scale?
I got quite a few scaled master replica lightsabers,tonnes of 3" figs etc.and got my 1/6 sideshow cody ( over last few years got alot into 1/6 collecting

)

tama · 09-17-2011, 02:13 AM

I decided to start with TPM and I must say for the PQ I am not impressed. I would rate this below average or sub-par. Due to DNR characters take on a waxy appearance while mid range shots are often blurry. On top of that EE is easily noticeable is several scenes. I have read that this is the worst of the bunch and I hope it's true but so are this is a big disappointment for me.

LetoAtreides82 · 09-17-2011, 02:14 AM

Watched episode IV for the first time ever tonight, absolutely loved it and can't wait to see what happens in episode V, but it will have to wait 'til tomorrow so that I can play it loud

During the cantina scene in episode IV I just kept thinking of the game Mass Effect which I thought was awesome. Talking about Mass Effect they need to make a movie for it...

Some quick minor criticisms of the film:
1. When the storm stroopers tried to break into Leia's ship the rebels should have thrown grenades into the room, that would have made it harder for them to break in.

2. They should have done more to show how powerful Obi-Wan is.

3. I felt that the movie ended too soon, I wanted more. Maybe 150 minute runtime would've been perfect? They could use those extra 30 minutes to show more training scenes between Obi-Wan and Luke.

PQ was great, especially considering how old this movie is. SQ was incredible.

MaskedRider · 09-17-2011, 02:15 AM

I haven't preordered anything in a long time. This time I got a little worried and caved in and preordered it at Best Buy. I go to Target today and there's TONS of them! Whatever, I bought it at Target and will just keep my $5 film cell.

I watched the spoofs which was neat, but I wish they had a menu and you could select what you wanted to watch as opposed to 96 minutes straight of the spoofs. If I want to watch one of them I have to fast forward through it to find the one I want.

BasicGreatGuy · 09-17-2011, 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vassillios

Ep III pic quality is amazing....audio also

I am watching it right now. I agree. This is mind-blowingly wonderful.

vassillios · 09-17-2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetoAtreides82

Watched episode IV for the first time ever tonight, absolutely loved it and can't wait to see what happens in episode V, but it will have to wait 'til tomorrow so that I can play it loud

During the cantina scene in episode IV I just kept thinking of the game Mass Effect which I thought was awesome. Talking about Mass Effect they need to make a movie for it...

Some quick minor criticisms of the film:
1. When the storm stroopers tried to break into Leia's ship the rebels should have thrown grenades into the room, that would have made it harder for them to break in.

2. They should have done more to show how powerful Obi-Wan is.

3. I felt that the movie ended too soon, I wanted more. Maybe 150 minute runtime would've been perfect? They could use those extra 30 minutes to show more training scenes between Obi-Wan and Luke.

PQ was great, especially considering how old this movie is. SQ was incredible.

Nerd answer: I have the feeling grenades in a spaceship would not be a good idea

octagon · 09-17-2011, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetoAtreides82

I felt that the movie ended too soon, I wanted more.

"Always leave them wanting more" - as axioms go that's an oldie but definitely a goodie

ranitasus · 09-17-2011, 02:22 AM

Just got my sets

Here are some pictures of the individual sets as was requested by a fellow member. Can't remember his screen name so I apologize

The 3 sets:

Prequel and Original trilogy sets:

Question guys: When you insert the disc, if you are not connected to BD live, does it just go t the menus?

HylianBowcaster · 09-17-2011, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osum28

Did they re edit the end of episode 2? Im talking specifically about right after yoda and dooku fight. Dooku uses the force to try to drop the big pillar on obi and anakin and yoda stops it in mid air and pushes it over and drops it on the floor. On the dvd, the next shot is the gunship flying over and stopping by the platform and letting padme and troopers off. Then it shows dookus ship flying off and away while padme and troopers are shooting at it. Then it shows the ship leaving the planet and flying off into space. The next shot is of anakin gasping and yoda looking concerned and using the force to get his cane and walking towards obi and anakin. Then it shows obi and anakin getting up and then a wide shot with padme running in.

The blu ray version shows yoda dropping the big pillar then cuts to anakin gasping on the floor and yoda looking concerned and getting his cane. Then it cuts to the ship taking off and padme shooting at it.

This new cut doesnt flow well at all with the music. At first I thought maybe some of it was completely cut but then all the shots are there but out of order.

Anyone else notice this? Do I have a bad copy? Sorry if this is confusing. Just watch the dvd and the blu ray and you will see what I mean.

Thank you,

Matt

I noticed this, there's definitely something different. I thought my player skipped or something (like it did when I first watched Avatar).

Chadomac · 09-17-2011, 02:22 AM

Here we go me and my 8 year old are starting with episode 1 and going all the way through

BobbyB · 09-17-2011, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jutty

Nice..whats that 1/6 scale?
I got quite a few scaled master replica lightsabers,tonnes of 3" figs etc.and got my 1/6 sideshow cody ( over last few years got alot into 1/6 collecting

)

They were referred to as 1/4 scale pieces.

Pgcmoore · 09-17-2011, 02:23 AM

Just opened mine, UPS was running late. Think I'll start with A New Hope. Then check out the extras, I feel like a kid on Christmas morning!

vassillios · 09-17-2011, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadomac

Here we go me and my 8 year old are starting with episode 1 and going all the way through

Enjoy!

RuttedCatfish · 09-17-2011, 02:24 AM

just got done ROTS.All I can say is WOW. My father sat down and watched it with me and it turned him into a bluray lover. before tonight he would say he couldnt tell the difference between dvd and bluray

LetoAtreides82 · 09-17-2011, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vassillios

Nerd answer: I have the feeling grenades in a spaceship would not be a good idea

Good point

CGHULK · 09-17-2011, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tama

I decided to start with TPM and I must say for the PQ I am not impressed. I would rate this below average or sub-par. Due to DNR characters take on a waxy appearance while mid range shots are often blurry. On top of that EE is easily noticeable is several scenes. I have read that this is the worst of the bunch and I hope it's true but so are this is a big disappointment for me.

Episode 2 is the worst, it's like the source was 1080p or less. At least in Episode 1 the blacks are good. Episode 2 looks washed out.

ranitasus · 09-17-2011, 02:26 AM

Watching the Phantom Menace as I type this. The sound is AMAZING! This brings me back to some fond childhood memories. I was 12 when I went to go see The Phantom Menace with my father at midnight. I remember the long lines and the excitement in the air. I will never forget that. Very nostalgic.

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09-17-2011, 02:06 AM	#33961
punisher Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2010 Location:MSG CHASE BRIDGE Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:222	my take on TPM EP I audio 4.5...excellent dialogue..excellent detail..but no demo material here ..a lot better out there PQ 3...I would give it a 3.5 if any other movie, but there is no excuse for Lucas, the guru, the man who said no blus till he was sure blu was here to stay and then it would be done right..detail remarkable at times,but the DNR on the faces ,especially Liam Neeson is awful,I honestly cannot believe Lucas watched this transfer because it would make him cringe...sure the cgi and the cgi characters look great, but the main characters..the real live people ...is as bad as Predator only more disappointing as it is so unexpected here so it seems worse.. a washed out waxy face talking to a brilliant cgi character just doesn't make it it my experience for TPM on video was first a 2 cd bootleg from ebay..followed by a vcd from e-bay and then a bootleg dvd from the ld on e-bay..all of course from the far east then the legit dvd this is a disappointing video transfer..I got what i expected B4..but did not expect this...I am using an OPPO BDP 83 to my PIONEER PRO ELITE 111FD plasma tv....in CALIBRATED STANDARD MODE..it was bad..SWITCHING TO OPTIMUM where the tv adjusts to room by a separate sensor,it was god awful..Pure video was bad..Movie mode saved the film and made it watchable after some tweaking now to clarify,I am talking about the live character scenes,especially the close ups,the rest looks damn good JMO ..there is a huge room for improvement on TPM years ago i made a comment that some movies just don't look good on dvd,and later some will only look bad in HD..maybe it's coming back to haunt me NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Last edited by punisher; 09-17-2011 at 02:10 AM.

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09-17-2011, 02:07 AM	#33962
osum28 New Member Member since:Sep 2008	Did they re edit the end of episode 2? Im talking specifically about right after yoda and dooku fight. Dooku uses the force to try to drop the big pillar on obi and anakin and yoda stops it in mid air and pushes it over and drops it on the floor. On the dvd, the next shot is the gunship flying over and stopping by the platform and letting padme and troopers off. Then it shows dookus ship flying off and away while padme and troopers are shooting at it. Then it shows the ship leaving the planet and flying off into space. The next shot is of anakin gasping and yoda looking concerned and using the force to get his cane and walking towards obi and anakin. Then it shows obi and anakin getting up and then a wide shot with padme running in. The blu ray version shows yoda dropping the big pillar then cuts to anakin gasping on the floor and yoda looking concerned and getting his cane. Then it cuts to the ship taking off and padme shooting at it. This new cut doesnt flow well at all with the music. At first I thought maybe some of it was completely cut but then all the shots are there but out of order. Anyone else notice this? Do I have a bad copy? Sorry if this is confusing. Just watch the dvd and the blu ray and you will see what I mean. Thank you, Matt

09-17-2011, 02:08 AM	#33963
vassillios Member Member since:Aug 2008 Blu-ray collection:163	Ep III pic quality is amazing....audio also

09-17-2011, 02:13 AM	#33965
tama Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:San Jose, CA 4K collection:685 Blu-ray collection:1229	I decided to start with TPM and I must say for the PQ I am not impressed. I would rate this below average or sub-par. Due to DNR characters take on a waxy appearance while mid range shots are often blurry. On top of that EE is easily noticeable is several scenes. I have read that this is the worst of the bunch and I hope it's true but so are this is a big disappointment for me.

09-17-2011, 02:14 AM	#33966
LetoAtreides82 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:United States Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:23	Watched episode IV for the first time ever tonight, absolutely loved it and can't wait to see what happens in episode V, but it will have to wait 'til tomorrow so that I can play it loud During the cantina scene in episode IV I just kept thinking of the game Mass Effect which I thought was awesome. Talking about Mass Effect they need to make a movie for it... Some quick minor criticisms of the film: 1. When the storm stroopers tried to break into Leia's ship the rebels should have thrown grenades into the room, that would have made it harder for them to break in. 2. They should have done more to show how powerful Obi-Wan is. 3. I felt that the movie ended too soon, I wanted more. Maybe 150 minute runtime would've been perfect? They could use those extra 30 minutes to show more training scenes between Obi-Wan and Luke. PQ was great, especially considering how old this movie is. SQ was incredible.

09-17-2011, 02:15 AM	#33967
MaskedRider Special Member Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Angel Grove 4K collection:258 Blu-ray collection:1504 DVD collection:1464 MA collection:289 Digital collection:430 iTunes collection:129 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 42 Trading Score:21	I haven't preordered anything in a long time. This time I got a little worried and caved in and preordered it at Best Buy. I go to Target today and there's TONS of them! Whatever, I bought it at Target and will just keep my $5 film cell. I watched the spoofs which was neat, but I wish they had a menu and you could select what you wanted to watch as opposed to 96 minutes straight of the spoofs. If I want to watch one of them I have to fast forward through it to find the one I want.

09-17-2011, 02:22 AM	#33971
ranitasus Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Sherman Oaks, Cali Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:1226 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:12	Just got my sets Here are some pictures of the individual sets as was requested by a fellow member. Can't remember his screen name so I apologize The 3 sets: Prequel and Original trilogy sets: Question guys: When you insert the disc, if you are not connected to BD live, does it just go t the menus?

09-17-2011, 02:22 AM	#33973
Chadomac Active Member Member since:Nov 2010 Blu-ray collection:516	Here we go me and my 8 year old are starting with episode 1 and going all the way through

09-17-2011, 02:23 AM	#33975
Pgcmoore Expert Member Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Tampa	Just opened mine, UPS was running late. Think I'll start with A New Hope. Then check out the extras, I feel like a kid on Christmas morning!

09-17-2011, 02:24 AM	#33977
RuttedCatfish Active Member Member since:Jul 2011 Location:Outer Rim Home Theater Gallery:21 4K collection:19 Blu-ray collection:708 DVD collection:1	just got done ROTS.All I can say is WOW. My father sat down and watched it with me and it turned him into a bluray lover. before tonight he would say he couldnt tell the difference between dvd and bluray

09-17-2011, 02:26 AM	#33980
ranitasus Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Sherman Oaks, Cali Home Theater Gallery:33 Blu-ray collection:1226 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:12	Watching the Phantom Menace as I type this. The sound is AMAZING! This brings me back to some fond childhood memories. I was 12 when I went to go see The Phantom Menace with my father at midnight. I remember the long lines and the excitement in the air. I will never forget that. Very nostalgic.

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