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The Complete Star Wars Saga 1,335 72.48%
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:31 PM   #34341
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I have a samsung player (last firmware update a few weeks ago) and the bonus discs have issues when you choose an item like the planet you want to view the xtras of and the video starts to play and stops while something is loading then takes off at roadrunner speed and then goes to the regular menu.
I have experienced the same thing with my Samsung BD player. The transitions between menus on the bonus disc are choppy as heck - like the player can't keep up. My firmware is up to date, too.

Another thing I noticed on the bonus disc is that I can't play the 'First Look' cartoon for Boba Fett from the menu. I have to choose to "play all" collections and skip to that part.

All the movies and just about all of the bonus features play fine.

I suspect these minor glitches are just some kind of incompatibility with the player that Samsung will have to resolve with their next firmware updates.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:36 PM   #34342
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I've watched Episodes I-IV so far and no sign of playback troubles with my Philips BDP3100/12. The only thing that I noticed is that the music is too dominant on the right speakers in some places during Episode IV, during the opening crawl/star wars theme for example.

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I remember an interview with Natalie Portman back sometime when one of the prequels was shooting or was in theaters, she was asked about Lucas' directing style. She indicated he took 6 takes of every scene and picked which he thought was the best of each, and he didn't really instruct the actors beyond that. Yes, Portman has talent, but if you don't have a feel for what a director wants, that would make it difficult for the actors to collectively capture the mood in the same scene. Sure, the writing/script might explain what the scene requires (mood, feeling, behavior, etc.), but not everyone interprets what is written in the same exact way - web forums ALONE are an example of that . If this directing style really is true, that to me pretty much explains the wooden acting in the prequels.
It that is really true it would indeed explain everything.

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:37 PM   #34343
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TPM played perfectly on my Insignia NS-BRDVD4 however it completely froze twice during the opening scrolls on my Sony BDP-S470. I have yet to try the other disc.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:37 PM   #34344
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I work Target, and some diehard fan bought:

The Complete Saga w/ the free lithographs
The 1-3 set
The 4-6 set

If you get the Complete Saga, you get ALL the contents of the two smaller 3 disc sets + 3 discs of suppilmentals!

I guess some people like to waste $
Yeah that seems to be going overboard. Maybe they like the yoda and Vader covers.

Or the person could have bought it as a gift for someone else
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:38 PM   #34345
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+1 for audio dropouts. This is with my Oppo BDP-93 watching A New Hope last night. I have the latest firmware, so I guess I'll have to wait.
No issues on my 93, and for that matter no issues with my other Oppo player (BD80), HTPC, or PS3 Slim, either. The 93 is also on a different setup as the others. I'll note though that my 93 is not running the latest firmware, and I believe the latest is still beta.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:41 PM   #34346
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I haven't had the chance yet to sit down and watch any of the movies in full, but I did put in a few discs last night and skipped around to a few scenes to check a few things out.

ANH:

-The Greedo/Han shooting scene in ANH is MUCH better IMO. Not only do they shoot at almost the same time, but the new, shorter edit on that scene just looks a lot better. Basically when they cut to that shot where they both shoot, Han is already in the process of bobbing his head out of the way of Greedo's shot, and it doesn't look as bad as it did on the previous versions. As much as I would prefer it to just be Han shooting, the worst part about that scene IMO was just how bad that head-bob edit always looked. It is a big improvement here.

-I was disapointed to see that it's still pretty much the exact same CGI Jabba from 2004. While I agree with those who say that this scene just doesn't work for a number of reasons, I didn't expect it to be removed from the movie, so the most I was hoping for what for Jabba to look better. While the '04 version was a big improvement over the 1997 CGI version, the coloring of the '04 version is still all wrong and the CGI just looks very "flat" to me. For whatever reason there just doesn't seem to be as much "depth" to the way he looks as their should be. Supposedly this is supposed to me the same model used in TPM, but I checked out his appearance in that last night as well, and that still looks A LOT better to me. His coloring is correct, the animation and depth look much better. This scene could still use a lot of improvement. One unfortunate side effect of watching this scene in HD is seeing just how bad the edit of Han walking around Jabba and stepping on his tale looks. It was already awkward to begin with because originally he just walked straight around the human actor, but they digitially edited it to make it look like Hand goes up and down and he steps on and off of the tail, and it's a very choppy looking edit. But now on top of those issues, seeing it in HD, if you focus on Han as he walks over the tail, there's a few times where he goes from being in focus with decent detail to becoming really, really blurry and looking like he's been SUPER-DNRed, which is probably just a side effect of the digitla edit that they did on him in the first place years ago to make this special effect.

-Overall the lightsaber coloring during the scene where Luke is training on the Falcon is better and and somewhat more consistent. I would have still preferred if the FX had just been completely redone, but compared to the 2004 debacle, this is an improvement. The biggest inconsistency is that when we see Luke from one angle (with his right side facing the audience a bit more, and this being the angle during which at times we see Han and Obi Wan to the right side of the screen), the saber is a more blue-ish color. It's still not quite the right shade, but it's not a starck green anymore.... then when we see him from another angle (more so his left side facing us a big more, with us seeing more of the background behind him and the other side of the falcon away from Obi Wan and Han), his lightsaber has more of that white coloring to it, with a slight aqua colored glow around it. So, that is the biggest shift that I noticed, but otherwise the saber seems to be relatively consistent within each separate angle... it's just when comparing the two that the issue occurs, but it's not like the effect has ever quite looked right. I'm not defending the other color timing issues that still exist, and some residual effects of the 2004 coloring may still be present in the sabers, but this looked better to me.


-Then there's the scene with R2 hiding behind the new rocks. This looked better than I had thought it would. I'll admit that the question of "how did he get in there" is still a reasonable one, but it doesn't look bad to me. Even the inconsistency of him being behind those rocks and then when we see him later outside of there with the little cave or whatever still in the background but without the new CGI rocks, it wasn't that jarring. I can see where it wouldn't be totally obvious to the audience that what we are seeing was specifically his hiding place, and could possibly just be him from another angle with different rocks in the background. I'm not so much defending this inconsistency (because I do agree that they should have thought about this and made it consistent from the get-go), but it's not really one that I think is going to stand out that much unless you specifically know what you are looking for.

-It's interesting seeing what I assume to be unintended details on Vader's mask in this. Especially during the first scenes where he shows up at the start of the movie, when the camera is zoomed in on his face, you can really see some scratches and roughness on the mask which was likely a result of it's construction, and other minor flaws in the mask and helmet. Having also watched some parts of ROTJ (more on that below, and note I haven't checked out TESB at all yet, so I'm just comparing these 2 movies), I noticed how it looked smoother and shinier in ROTJ. So, some improvement occurred over the course of the OT.

ROTJ:

-Wicket's eyes for the most part are nice, though will take a little getting used to. A couple of times the blinking looked odd to me, but overall I can see the improvement.

-The lightsaber battle at the end looks a lot better. There are still a few minor coloring inconsistencies, but to me overall it looked pretty good. Maybe those with a more keen eye for this sort of thing will see more of a problem than I did, but overall it still looks good. One thing that I did notice (both in watching this disc and from previous stills that were posted) is that while they very much fixed the problem with that shot where Vader and Luke cross their sabers in front of the Emperor, if you take a close look at Luke's saber-blade, towards the bottom of it in that shot, some of the white core still has some green coloring to it. It's as if they went to fix it but didn't quite go down far enough. Really not a big deal, but just something I happened to notice.

- I'm still not thrilled about the "noooo" at the end of the movie, but now that I've gotten used to it, it's not too bad. I do still find Obi Wan's new dragon call in ANH to be laughable, though.



TPM:

-The new Digital version of Yoda looks nice. I checked out a few scenes with him in it.

-I also, as stated earlier, checked out Jabba's brief appearance during the pod race scene, and he's still one of my favorite former-puppet-translated-to-CGI characters that I've seen out of the movies. I really, really wish they would do more to make ANH Jabba look more like that if we absolutely have to have that scene in ANH.

-I did notice the DNR in some scenes. For instance, when Qui Gon is talking to the council about training Anakin. But it's wasn't too terrible.

-I also checked out a bit of the lightsaber battle at the end, which overall looks nice, but there are a few spots where it's EASY to tell that they are on a green/blue screen and not in that actual location.



ROTS:

Not too much to say aside from it looking very good. I didn't really notice any changes in any of the scenes that I checked out. I mainly watched it for the PQ, mostly the lightsaber battle at the end.


I haven't checked out TESB or AOTC yet. I would have, but it was getting late and I was tired. I checked out ANH and ROTJ since they had the most changes of the OT movies, and TPM for largely the same reason for the PT. And of course ROTS for the PQ. Now I need to sit down and actually watch the movies from start to finish.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:42 PM   #34347
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No audio issues on the prequels and old Samsung 1400, which last firmware was over a year ago. Now to see A New Hope .
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:43 PM   #34348
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so i have an audio skipping issue on my ps3 slim. i played the same parts on my sister's insignia bd player and it works fine! are kidding me. an insignia! anyway this confirms my suspicions. my ps3 is the problem. its probably, hopefully, just a firmware issue. what is the latest upgrade i should be looking for (for my ps3)?
No issues on my Slim at all. Is your sister's Insignia on the same setup? If not, it could very well be something else in the HDMI chain (assuming you're using HDMI). If they're in different setups, I would try the Slim on your sister's setup, and/or even run the PS3 directly to the monitor and see if that changes anything.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:46 PM   #34349
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My Blu-ray, paint chip. It started smaller. I took my finger to rub the spot, like I was wiping away a finger print and the paint just rubbed off like you see. That was with barely touching it with the tip of my finger. Yes, the disc still plays fine, but I don't care. I don't have any Blu-ray disc that the paint has came off like this. There is no excuse. And with so many people saying they have these holes, I'm a little pissed off!

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I have similar, smaller paint chip on my Revenge of the Sith disc. In my case, it is towards the left side on the upper part of the blue stripe. I didn't notice any chips on my other discs, but I will have to take a another, closer look at them to be sure, considering what a wide spread problem this apparently is. The only other cosmetic issue that I had with my set was that the corner of the outer box got dented a bit in shipping. Frankly I'm surprised that it wasn't worse. Amazon didn't put any kind of packing material in with the set, and there was a good amount of extra, empty space for it to bounce around in there. I'd be more mad if it wasn't for the fact that I'm using custom packaging anyway.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:47 PM   #34350
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I work Target, and some diehard fan bought:

The Complete Saga w/ the free lithographs
The 1-3 set
The 4-6 set

If you get the Complete Saga, you get ALL the contents of the two smaller 3 disc sets + 3 discs of suppilmentals!

I guess some people like to waste $
Once again lol To each his own. I did the same thing, minus the lithographs. I'm a huge fan and wanted the individual releases to have in my collection as well. I don't see how it's wasting money if you HAVE the money. I simply don't understand why people get bothered or even have to mention how pointless it is to buy multiple copies.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:48 PM   #34351
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I've watched Episodes I-IV so far and no sign of playback troubles with my Philips BDP3100/12. The only thing that I noticed is that the music is too dominant on the right speakers in some places during Episode IV, during the opening crawl/star wars theme for example.



It that is really true it would indeed explain everything.
I noticed the same on the right channel in 2 different setups with IV. I actually adjusted the right channel down -2db or so to compensate. Thought it was just me!
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:48 PM   #34352
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No audio issues on the prequels and old Samsung 1400, which last firmware was over a year ago. Now to see A New Hope .
Wow, the fact that these even played at all on a Samsung player is impressive!

(and I speak from experience)
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:48 PM   #34353
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Just finished marathoning all six films, back to back. Went in the original order from IV-VI, and then I-III. I really don't see how ANYONE could be bothered enough with the new changes to the point of not buying the set.

It's called OCD. Some people just can't let go of the littlest things that bother them. Everyone behaves like that to an extent; some more than others.
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Old 09-17-2011, 06:50 PM   #34354
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Just finished marathoning all six films, back to back. Went in the original order from IV-VI, and then I-III. I really don't see how ANYONE could be bothered enough with the new changes to the point of not buying the set. I mean, damn, in the whole grand scheme of things, those are like specs. This is one of those times where a set is truly amazing, and something I will continue to pop in every chance I get. I just started checking out the extras, but I'm shocked at how many extras there actually are! I need a break, but I will definitely get through everything. I haven't done something like this since the Alien Anthology release, or more recently (and not as hard), BttF.

One thing I must say...and I know I'm in the minority here, but I really wish GL would've made the puppet in the OT CGI. I know a lot of people, and even GL himself if I'm not mistaken, say that the puppet fits right with Yoda's age, but it's the one thing that kind of stood out.
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Wow, the fact that these even played at all on a Samsung player is impressive!

(and I speak from experience)


No offense, OP.

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Old 09-17-2011, 06:51 PM   #34356
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No issues on my PS3 yet. I've even tested a couple scenes other people are (were?) having issues with and I had nothing. We'll see what happens as I continue with the saga.

I also checked for any paint errors on my discs like others are reporting and everything is mint - luckily, I suppose.

One thing that I dislike so far is how snug the discs are. I love this style of packaging but it was a lot easier to take the AA discs out last year.
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I have similar, smaller paint chip on my Revenge of the Sith disc. In my case, it is towards the left side on the upper part of the blue stripe. I didn't notice any chips on my other discs, but I will have to take a another, closer look at them to be sure, considering what a wide spread problem this apparently is. The only other cosmetic issue that I had with my set was that the corner of the outer box got dented a bit in shipping. Frankly I'm surprised that it wasn't worse. Amazon didn't put any kind of packing material in with the set, and there was a good amount of extra, empty space for it to bounce around in there. I'd be more mad if it wasn't for the fact that I'm using custom packaging anyway.
The only thing I have are two very tiny pin holes on my Phantom Menace. It played with no problems. I just went ahead and switched out my prequel trilogy Phantom Menace disc with the one in my Saga. I don't want to return the whole set if it is only two very tiny pin hole marks that made no difference. I would hate to get a new set and have it be worse. I've had that happen before lol
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For those who ordered on amazon, has anyone still not received their set?
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My Blu-ray, paint chip. It started smaller. I took my finger to rub the spot, like I was wiping away a finger print and the paint just rubbed off like you see. That was with barely touching it with the tip of my finger. Yes, the disc still plays fine, but I don't care. I don't have any Blu-ray disc that the paint has came off like this. There is no excuse. And with so many people saying they have these holes, I'm a little pissed off!



Yeah, something like that I would return because it is obviously very visible. I had to hold mine up the light and squint to see the tiny hole. Maybe you can contact FOX directly and get a replacement disc?
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Damnit! they were sold out everywhere of the complete set so i got stuck on buying the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy (with their ugly covers)
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