Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[supersonic395]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

The 1977 originals were 4.2 70MM Dolby, 35MM 2.0 Dolby, and mono. Each had its own soundmix with elements not present in the others.

5.1 for 1997

5.1 EX for 2004

5.1 (EX) HD for 2011.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

The 1977 originals were 4.2 70MM Dolby, 35MM 2.0 Dolby, and mono. Each had its own soundmix with elements not present in the others.

5.1 for 1997

5.1 EX for 2004

Thanks, didn't know that.

Originally Posted by supersonic395

5.1 (EX) HD for 2011.

Dolby TrueHD 5.1 EX

[supersonic395]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Dolby TrueHD 5.1 EX

......5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio EX?

[Waboman]

Lucas has gotten all my money on every other version. Might as well give him the rest for the Ultimate Edition too.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

......5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio EX?

Lucas usually a Dolby guy, Star Wars was the first to use Dolby Stereo in theaters.

But Lucas used DTD-HD MA for thr THX 1138 blu-ray, maybe he would use it with Star Wars as well. If DTS, it should be ES then, not EX.

DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES

[supersonic395]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Lucas usually a Dolby guy, Star Wars was the first to use Dolby Stereo in theaters.

But Lucas used DTD-HD MA for thr THX 1138 blu-ray, maybe he would use it with Star Wars as well. If DTS, it should be ES then, not EX.

DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES

Ah I see.

Tbh, both are lossless formats, so would there be much difference (if any)?

EDIT: What does the EX and ES stand for?

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

I love the photo of Luke on Tatooine! Such a classic moment!

Cool; I like that pic!

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

Ah I see.

Tbh, both are lossless formats, so would there be much difference (if any)?

EDIT: What does the EX and ES stand for?

The was a thread debating DTS-HD MA vs Dolby TrueHD. Both are lossless, one WinZIP and the other WinRAR. But I think maybe DTS put some of their signature flavors to it, and increase the dB a little bit, that could be the reason so many people prefers DTS. Just what I think, not facts.

Myself, as long as it's lossless, I'm good. Only thing I always hope for is 6.1 or 7.1.

ES means Extra Surround, can be discrete or matrix. EX means EXtra I think, not sure but it's only matrix, not discrete.

Please note that all Onkyo xx5 series can't decode ES/EX in HD audio, me and TheLordoftheRing has verified this. All models after that (xx6, x07, x08) can do it. Not sure about other brands though.

[supersonic395]

Ah ok, cheers for the info.

(Interestingly, on the Led Zeppelin Dvd, the DD 5.1 seems to be louder than the DTS 5.1 track).

Anyhow, can't wait for the blu-rays next year. (Alien set should tide me over).

[Sith]

Originally Posted by kittensrevenge

wow awesome dvdmike!

this is my favorite poster for my favorite film of all time would be nice to have this on a blu cover!

That would be an awesome cover.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

Ah ok, cheers for the info.

(Interestingly, on the Led Zeppelin Dvd, the DD 5.1 seems to be louder than the DTS 5.1 track).

Anyhow, can't wait for the blu-rays next year. (Alien set should tide me over).

Yup, in some cases they do. The only thing I notice between DTS and Dolby is loudness, one may be louder than the other sometimes, but that's nothing that your volume knob can't fix.

On DVD, it's a little bit different though, DTS IS 764kbps while Dolby Digital is 224 or 448kbps.

Example of Dolby TrueHD 5.1 EX blu-ray is Star Wars: The Clone Wars. While DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES are UP, Wall-E, A Bug's Life and Monster's, Inc.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Lucas usually a Dolby guy, Star Wars was the first to use Dolby Stereo in theaters.

Actually it was the horrid 1976 Streisand remake of A Star Is Born that was the first major film in Dolby Stereo.

Star Wars was the first bona-fide blockbuster, the killer app.

Trivia: the first Dolby Digital film: Batman Returns, right? Nope. It was Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. BR was the first official release but prints of ST:VI and afterwards Newsies tested the new format.

But Lucas used DTD-HD MA for thr THX 1138 blu-ray, maybe he would use it with Star Wars as well. If DTS, it should be ES then, not EX.

DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES

THX-1138 was put out by Warner and is not a LucasFilm production. If Lucas had been in charge it would have also been THX certified.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Actually it was the horrid 1976 Streisand remake of A Star Is Born that was the first major film in Dolby Stereo.

Star Wars was the first bona-fide blockbuster, the killer app.

Trivia: the first Dolby Digital film: Batman Returns, right? Nope. It was Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. BR was the first official release but prints of ST:VI and afterwards Newsies tested the new format.



THX-1138 was put out by Warner and is not a LucasFilm production. If Lucas had been in charge it would have also been THX certified.

Thanks for the clarification Peter. Didn't know about the Streisand movie.

Hmm, this mean Lucasfilm had no hand in the technical part of the THX 1138 blu-ray? So this means he only has the creative rights as a director. I thought Lucas bought back the ownership of the movie, like he did with the first Star Wars. This probably true with American Graffiti as well.

[kemcha]

I'm all excited over this upcoming release and I don't care what versions of these movies are included. I would like to see Digital Yoda in all six movies but I'm glad that they're including the Special Edition versions of the movies in this particular release.

Far as the Prequels? I've been wondering about the release on Blu-ray but the good news is that they were actually filmed in digital. I don't care much for the first movie, but the second and third prequel movies were actually quite good.

[supersonic395]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Yup, in some cases they do. The only thing I notice between DTS and Dolby is loudness, one may be louder than the other sometimes, but that's nothing that your volume knob can't fix.

On DVD, it's a little bit different though, DTS IS 764kbps while Dolby Digital is 224 or 448kbps.

Example of Dolby TrueHD 5.1 EX blu-ray is Star Wars: The Clone Wars. While DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES are UP, Wall-E, A Bug's Life and Monster's, Inc.

So the DTS track is more desirable due to the higher kbps (for dvds)?

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

So the DTS track is more desirable due to the higher kbps (for dvds)?

The simple answer is yes. More bitrate means more data, there's a reason why lossless tracks have really high bitrate. Bitrate does help to the audio quality, though it's not necessarily be the only factor.

This only concerns DVD where both DTS and Dolby Digital are lossy. As discussed earlier lossless track is a different story.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

So the DTS track is more desirable due to the higher kbps (for dvds)?

They are 2 very different codecs. More bitrate does not always = better quality. Efficiency is a greater factor.

Still, the companion/core lossy tracks of TrueHD and DTS-MA run at maximum bitrate and are transparent to the master. TrueHD has more options when it comes to DRC and certain other kinds of setups, like an optimized 5.1 mix in a 7.1 bitstream for those who don't have full 7.1 setups.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

They are 2 very different codecs. More bitrate does not always = better quality. Efficiency is a greater factor.

[Show spoiler]Still, the companion/core lossy tracks of TrueHD and DTS-MA run at maximum bitrate and are transparent to the master. TrueHD has more options when it comes to DRC and certain other kinds of setups, like an optimized 5.1 mix in a 7.1 bitstream for those who don't have full 7.1 setups

.

True.

[Cobra33]

the only i hope they dont do is replace puppet yoda with CGI yoda in TPM. i love puppet yoda! one of the best things about TPM was that out of the 3 films TPM used the least amount of CGI.

out of all the star wars films the only one i probably hate or dislike very much is attack of the clones. cool title, but the movie itself SUCKED!

and whos with me that stormtroopers are cooler then clonetroopers? i hate how they are trying to make the clonetroopers so badass in the new show when its the STORMTROOPERS that are supposed to be badass!

[STARKILLER--1138]

CLONETROOPERS > STORMTROOPERS

EPIII Clonetroopers FTW for that matter!

I love the Stormie design; but, Clonetroopers are total bad asses! I know Stormies are supposed to be, but are far from.