Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[mikeyfridebuzz]

Not to dig up an old topic (from yesterday) but I always saw the Palps face melting thing as a combination between revealing his true self and intentionally using enough dark side force to disfigure himself further so he could drop the mask and then use it for sympathy with the Senate, as he does just that shortly thereafter when announcing the new Galactic Empire. He was letting his facial complexion "take one for the team" so to speak.

I believe I also have read that the Dark Side would have the deteriorating effects on the user over time anyways so perhaps Palps was already headed that way and let the Jedi take responsibility for it.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

There are a lot of people really disappointed with it.

Yup, the sound mix of EpIII left me wanting after hearing EpI and II and it doesn't really matter wether it was intentional or not.

Originally Posted by Jay444

WHAT!??! How dare you attempt to use common sense to fix something?!?! Just who do you think you are?

If you believe that volume is the only difference in the audiomix of Episode III you really should get your ears checked and stop taking part in the discussion.

There is a definite relative difference between sound, music and voices. Upping the volume won't change that one bit. It just will make the different sound mix louder as a whole and not fix the problem that the light saber sounds are much lower in comparison to the voices and the music, than in the previous episodes. It also won't change anything about almost nonexistent sound effects like in the scene when the clone fighter explodes.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

Thanks for the pep-talk. I appreciate it! It wasn't my intention to appear "snobby" or anything... It just baffles me when someone posts questions about the logic of certain scenes and when you're actually trying to answer these questions by revealing the mythological underpinnings you get laughed at. What is this? Has it become "cool" to ridicule and brag with ones lack of knowledge? But you're right. A metaphor is best left unexplained.

Yeah, that's just it. I get a kick out of the queen storyline in Phantom Menace being a pound for pound reference to Hidden Fortress, but if you don't like Phantom Menace to begin with it doesn't matter in the slightest. Or, really, even if you do. If a story doesn't succeed for somebody on a pure story level, they don't need to be told why it didn't succeed or reasoned into thinking it does.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Sure, you hate the writting, cool I can understand that!

I don't hate all the writing, just the writing that really, really sucks. And some of that is even fun in a Showgirls/Plan 9 From Outer Space sort of way.

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

What I don't get is why are you still here if you hate it so much?

Star Wars is an interesting topic and for all the meaningless diversions - like this one, for instance - the thread can be pretty interesting too.

[mars396]

I cannot stand the Star Wars Saga packaging, so, thanks to dvdmike in the Custom Covers thread....


https://forum.blu-ray.com/album.php?albumid=1703

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by mars396

I cannot stand the Star Wars Saga packaging, so, thanks to dvdmike in the Custom Covers thread....


https://forum.blu-ray.com/album.php?albumid=1703

Still trying to find a convenient inexpensive way to readily purchase spare cases.

[mars396]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Still trying to find a convenient inexpensive way to readily purchase spare cases.

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26...-ray&cp=1&lp=4

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by mars396

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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex%26...-ray&cp=1&lp=4

I don't like those cases mainly because they used that older, flat, "chalky" looking Blu-Ray logo that the Elite cases used to use before they starting using the shiney logo.

They are still better than nothing, but IMO they aren't ideal.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I don't like those cases mainly because they used that older, flat, "chalky" looking Blu-Ray logo that the Elite cases used to use before they starting using the shiney logo.

They are still better than nothing, but IMO they aren't ideal.

Besides I meant single disc cases and I'd really prefer to buy some in-store, I hate paying the shipping costs to get them online.

[happydood]

I prefer to combine sets as much as possible for space, so I'd love to find a single 9 disc amray or even a 12 or 13 that I could put the dvd bonus features in as well.

I've ordered 3, 4, and 5 disc cases online before and the shipping charges just didn't make it worth it to me.

[mars396]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Besides I meant single disc cases and I'd really prefer to buy some in-store, I hate paying the shipping costs to get them online.

I bought them in a BestBuy (not online), and the double cases come in handy for the bonus discs

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by happydood

Yeah, that's just it. I get a kick out of the queen storyline in Phantom Menace being a pound for pound reference to Hidden Fortress, but if you don't like Phantom Menace to begin with it doesn't matter in the slightest. Or, really, even if you do. If a story doesn't succeed for somebody on a pure story level, they don't need to be told why it didn't succeed or reasoned into thinking it does.

Exactly.

If someone gets a kick out of any symbolism or reference to existing mythology (whether it be intentional on the filmmaker's part or a coincidence), and they happen to get a kick out of it, that's totally fine.

But don't sit here and tell me that because I have issues with certain aspects of these films that I just don't "get it" or that I would appreciate it more if I knew more about myhtology than I already do.

If anything (from my point of view), I could almost criticize Lucas for doing too much lifting from existing myths rather than putting more effort into making a story that works better overall. Just because Star Wars is meant to be a mondern day myth doesn't mean it has to lift all of the mythical elements straight from other already existing myths. Those were, at one time, brand new original stories. What's wrong with coming up with a concept that works in the vein of myth, but isn't just rehashed or recycled from something done before?

If some aspect of TPM isn't working for me, suddenly I'm supposed to change my mind about it because that same element was used in several other stories? Whoopity-doo.


Frankly, regardless of any preexisting myths, symbolic traditions, or anything else, the movies should first and foremost work on their own merrits. While people familiar with those things (myths, etc) may get a little something more out of the experience of watching the films than those who don't, knowing the traditions of myth shouldn't be a necessity for the films to make sense. If something plot wise doesn't quite add up or seem logical to me, then it just doesn't add up or seem logical to me. I shouldn't be expected to have joygasms over it just because a similar myth was previously told in a similar way.

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Besides I meant single disc cases and I'd really prefer to buy some in-store, I hate paying the shipping costs to get them online.

Even if you don't have Prime, if you order them at Amazon at a time when you're spending over $25, shipping will be free...

[goldenrod]

Watching A New Hope right now in french (sorry it's my primary language) and proud to say that in that version we have the 2004 Krayt Dragon Owl and not the new owl....

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

I didn't realize that any dialoguge had been changed in Ep II for the BD release. I'll have to do some comparisons with the DVD version this weekend.

Just checked the DVD myself. I was wrong about the Jango Fett line-- it was always there, I just never noticed before. Ah well-- Lucas has made a pretty good guessing game of "Was this there before?"

[Oscarilbo]

Originally Posted by goldenrod

Watching A New Hope right now in french (sorry it's my primary language) and proud to say that in that version we have the 2004 Krayt Dragon Owl and not the new owl....

Same in the Latin-Spanish version. Why would that be ??? Curious!

[Weirded Wonder]

Originally Posted by Hatter

Revenge of the clones? Which movie does Yoda say that? Atack of the Clones or Revenge of the Sith?

Yoda says it in Revenge of the Sith... sorry

Originally Posted by Blu Bull

Dying and being killed are two different things?

He couldn't stop his mom or wife from dying, but he finally succeeded, he saved his son.

But isn't that the point of Anakin's dreams. If he would have listened to his dreams about his mother sooner, he could have saved her?

[Blu Bull]

When he had the dreams earlier she didn't need saving? She was living the dream as a moisture farmer's wife.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by Dynamo of Eternia

Exactly.

If someone gets a kick out of any symbolism or reference to existing mythology (whether it be intentional on the filmmaker's part or a coincidence), and they happen to get a kick out of it, that's totally fine.

But don't sit here and tell me that because I have issues with certain aspects of these films that I just don't "get it" or that I would appreciate it more if I knew more about myhtology than I already do.

If anything (from my point of view), I could almost criticize Lucas for doing too much lifting from existing myths rather than putting more effort into making a story that works better overall. Just because Star Wars is meant to be a mondern day myth doesn't mean it has to lift all of the mythical elements straight from other already existing myths. Those were, at one time, brand new original stories. What's wrong with coming up with a concept that works in the vein of myth, but isn't just rehashed or recycled from something done before?

If some aspect of TPM isn't working for me, suddenly I'm supposed to change my mind about it because that same element was used in several other stories? Whoopity-doo.


Frankly, regardless of any preexisting myths, symbolic traditions, or anything else, the movies should first and foremost work on their own merrits. While people familiar with those things (myths, etc) may get a little something more out of the experience of watching the films than those who don't, knowing the traditions of myth shouldn't be a necessity for the films to make sense. If something plot wise doesn't quite add up or seem logical to me, then it just doesn't add up or seem logical to me. I shouldn't be expected to have joygasms over it just because a similar myth was previously told in a similar way.

I agree with you. But the point of a myth, as I understand it to be distinct from a more straightforward story, is that it IS a retelling of stories that have been told before and with generalized characters and story elements. The Iliad wasn't thought up by Homer and written down, so much as it was collected from stories that had been passed down over time. So, while I think Lucas better synthesized his elements in the Original Trilogy, he was definitely going for broke with mythic elements in the Prequel Trilogy.

If the Prequel Trilogy has it's faults, and I believe that it does even though I'm a fan, it's that it seems to have been more important to have a holy fool role like Jar Jar and a virgin birth than how their execution would affect the story as a whole. But I do disagree with the mentality that Lucas doesn't know how to tell a story or has lost his mind, because I think everything in The Prequels was intentional.

[PrivatePixel]

Originally Posted by phansson

Thor around 2.5 million
Star wars around 1 million
Star Wars OT should be around 65,000 copies (which is insignificant in overall numbers)
Star Wars PT didn't even make the top 25 in sales.....

I think that number is even more disappointing when you consider that just over half of these (~515,000) were sold in N. America, and the worldwide market accounted for the remainder.

If Thor did indeed push ~2.5 million units during the same week that SW was released, why is SW receiving the credit for breaking Blu-ray sales records?