Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[The Doof]

Originally Posted by Blu-Runner

This is one of the reasons why I've been almost completely avoiding this thread. I mean, what are you really supposed to say to something like this?

Yeah. It's crazy on here. It really is. To each his own, but man.....

When I see stills of Yoda on set from the ESB I sometimes cannot believe how REAL he looks. I just stare. It is astounding the amount of life that puppet is imbued with.

To me Yoda was always an amazing creation because he was so powerful with the force, BUT wasn't a sword-wielding jedi. The "great warrior" thing was turned on its head. Then Lucas turned it back again. Sad. It was nice to have this different, zen view of the force. Yoda shouldn't have even been in the PT. He should have been referred to, but Mace should have assumed his role in the PT.

[Chordata]

Originally Posted by The Doof

You will never understand what I am talking about and that's fine. I truly envy the blissful little bubble you have created for yourself. If you enjoy having to make all these plot/narrative leaps yourself, then goodie for yousa.

But it must just baffle you how most of the world has problems with so many of the movies you love and vice versa (I've read your reviews on here - they all begin with "I don't understand why people are so negative about this movie). Yousa are lucky.

You just keep starting all of your replies and all of your thoughts with "Nope" and you will a happy guy until the end of yousa days.

I'd request that you stop before we start getting into how much he loves Jar Jar and hates Boba Fett.

[Valaquen]

Originally Posted by The Doof

Yeah. It's crazy on here. It really is. To each his own, but man.....

When I see stills of Yoda on set from the ESB I sometimes cannot believe how REAL he looks. I just stare. It is astounding the amount of life that puppet is imbued with.

To me Yoda was always an amazing creation because he was so powerful with the force, BUT wasn't a sword-wielding jedi. The "great warrior" thing was turned on its head. Then Lucas turned it back again. Sad. It was nice to have this different, zen view of the force. Yoda shouldn't have even been in the PT. He should have been referred to, but Mace should have assumed his role in the PT.

What's astounding about Yoda in ESB is his character - he plays it goofy, dark, grim, putting in little bits of joy, jest, disappointment, on and on. He had gravitas, and the puppet was awesome. I watched it a few nights ago and was really reminded of how expressive that thing was, and, as I said before, the gravitas that the character carried. He didn't speak ass-backwards to the point of annoyance either.

[Colonel Kurtz]

Originally Posted by The Doof

Arthur C. Clarke and Kubrick had all the answers - they just chose not to reveal them.

I like this part of the trivia section of 2001 on the imdb:

In the premier screening of the film, 241 people walked out of the theater, including Rock Hudson who said "Will someone tell me what the hell this is about?" Arthur C. Clarke once said, "If you understand '2001' completely, we failed. We wanted to raise far more questions than we answered."

[goldenrod]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

New line of discussion.

What's everyone's favorite song from the SW flicks?

Though I love me some Imperial March and Duel of the Fates, nothing quite does it for me like:

Star Wars Episode V Soundtrack - Rebel Fleet/End Title - YouTube

When the whole orchestra swells up for that last few bars before the end theme kicks in, it's very emotional.

Part of it is because I equate it with the end of Empire, which is far and away the best and my favorite SW movie, but I mean that melody is just incredible and the buildup is fantastic.

I think that lame 'Pomp & Circumstance' graduation song should be replaced wholesale by the Rebel Fleet/End Title.

I didn't have any problems with "yub yub", but I really prefer this one.

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi, Victory Celebration-End Title - YouTube

[Irrob]

OT Yoda. One of the greatest practical effects in cinema history.

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by MCT

He literally has blinders on when it comes to the Prequels. I'm not trying to offend the guy, but that's just amazing to me. And funny.

It's as funny as the irony you miss by posting that, since a pot & kettle association seems the most appropriate.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Irrob

OT Yoda. One of the greatest practical effects in cinema history.

I see it more as an unconventional performance (by the great Frank Oz) than a "special effect".

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by Howdy

I was born in '76 and grew up loving the OT, but outside of my warm and fuzzy nostalgia, it's not hard to see that PT Yoda is far more expressive and detailed than puppet Yoda.

Indeed. The Muppet is obviously very limited. It wouldn't ever have been able to convincingly walk, for example or swing a lightsaber or toss the rod up for Luke to chop. Much less do a flip or twirl. It was a great effect for it's day... just like the AT-AT. CGI today could do it better, though. I see it's best utility as being a stand in for the actors to act with while CGI is for the audience.

[MCT]

You guys are so concerned with Yoda swinging lightsabers and doing twirls that youre missing the point of what his character is supposed to stand for.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by MCT

You guys are so concerned with Yoda swinging lightsabers and doing twirls that youre missing the point of what his character is supposed to stand for.

Yes, yes. To MCT you listen.

[Prog5000]

i wonder when the deleted scenes will show up online again?

[Pgcmoore]

Just finished my favorite of all, ROTJ! Have to say the added dialog from Vader just before tossing the Emp off to his final destiny was a bit of a shock!

could have said,,,,

" I,,,,,,HAVE-HAD,,,,ENOUGH,,, OF,,,, YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!!"

LOL!

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by Uxi

Indeed. The Muppet is obviously very limited. It wouldn't ever have been able to convincingly walk, for example or swing a lightsaber or toss the rod up for Luke to chop. Much less do a flip or twirl. It was a great effect for it's day... just like the AT-AT. CGI today could do it better, though. I see it's best utility as being a stand in for the actors to act with while CGI is for the audience.

If he can do flips and such WHY does he need a cane in the PT? I never understood that.

[jonmoz]

Originally Posted by Hatter

If he can do flips and such WHY does he need a cane in the PT? I never understood that.

It must be for some kind of benefit fraud

Although if the benefit inspectors see Yoda doing those backflips he may be in trouble !

[Colonel Kurtz]

Originally Posted by Hatter

If he can do flips and such WHY does he need a cane in the PT? I never understood that.

He either used the force to make himself stronger for a short period of time or he uses the old weak old guy routine to catch possible enemies off guard. After all, he pretended to be some kind of idiotic weirdo when he first met Luke and only revealed himself as what he really was later on.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Chordata

I'd request that you stop before we start getting into how much he loves Jar Jar and hates Boba Fett.

I don't "Hate" Boba Fett. I'm indifferent to him. The fandom for him makes no sense.

He does NOTHING in the entire Saga. And dies to a Blind Man. It's clearly a love of style over substance.

Hell, until the Prequels.... Boba didn't even have a legitimate character in a lot of ways.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Beast

I don't "Hate" Boba Fett. I'm indifferent to him. The fandom for him makes no sense.

He does NOTHING in the entire Saga. And dies to a Blind Man. It's clearly a love of style over substance.

Hell, until the Prequels.... Boba didn't even have a legitimate character in a lot of ways.

I am sort of with you on this....I mean I understand if your love for him also extend from the fact that you read the books or comics (where his character is much more look into in details) but most people here claim they want nothing to do with the EU, so I am at a lost as why they should make Boba Fett into some sort of cool bad guy. Plus I am sorry, the way he get's kill sure does not make out to be amazing bad guy

[Beast]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I am sort of with you on this....I mean I understand if your love for him also extend from the fact that you read the books or comics (where his character is much more look into in details) but most people here claim they want nothing to do with the EU, so I am at a lost as why they should make Boba Fett into some sort of cool bad guy. Plus I am sorry, the way he get's kill sure does not make out to be amazing bad guy

Indeed. Frankly Jango was actually more bad ass than Boba Fett could even dream of. Boba's a poor copy, literally.

He was killing Jedis and stood toe to toe with Obi-Wan Kenobi. Sure he lost his head to Mace due to Rocket Pack malfunction, but still kicked ass.

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by MCT

You guys are so concerned with Yoda swinging lightsabers and doing twirls that youre missing the point of what his character is supposed to stand for.

Yeah, I'm sure Luke learned how to swing a lightsaber and jump flip from discussion on how life creates the force and luminous beings yada yada.