Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 1898 - Blu-ray Forum

Beast · 09-27-2011, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

But that part has already been done.

The version that was frame by frame restored was then actually sliced up to include the SE changes.

Valaquen · 09-27-2011, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

Plus as has been noted a few thousand times, it has nothing to do with cost. It's simply that those versions don't fit his vision.

His 'vision' changes with every release. I don't that the guy sees anything at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

But that part has already been done.

Yes, back in '97. Allegedly the prints were 'altered'? Lucas also recalled all original prints a few years ago, right?

The Doof · 09-27-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

The version that was frame by frame restored was then actually sliced up to include the SE changes.

I know.

That's what I'm talking about.

That's why I said the stuff about "5 million dollars." To put it back together the way it was. "the version" as you call it.

YES! I want "THE VERSION!"

BouCoupDinkyDau · 09-27-2011, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

The version that was frame by frame restored was then actually sliced up to include the SE changes.

So splice it back together, do a new scan of it and release it to blu. What's the problem?

Heck, he should have included that with this set. I would have bought all the other stuff I didn't want just to have that.

Shaft Windu · 09-27-2011, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

Plus as has been noted a few thousand times, it has nothing to do with cost. It's simply that those versions don't fit his vision.

The Special Edition IS the restored OT btw!!! Lucas restored the films for a theatrical release in 1997 and added a few effects. It's not even a different cut. It was even very well received back then as I remember. Only after Episode 1 in '99 everybody went crazy...

The Doof · 09-27-2011, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

The Special Edition IS the restored OT btw!!! Lucas restored the films for a theatrical release in 1997 and added a few effects. It's not even a different cut. It was even very well received back then as I remember. Only after Episode 1 in '99 everybody went crazy...

Shaft W and Beast - no offense - I don't know how old you guys are - but you are - neither of you - understanding what exactly is being said here.

BouCoupDinkyDau · 09-27-2011, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaft Windu

The Special Edition IS the restored OT btw!!! Lucas restored the films for a theatrical release in 1997 and added a few effects. It's not even a different cut. It was even very well received back then as I remember. Only after Episode 1 in '99 everybody went crazy...

Come on! Now you're just trying to make yourself look bad.

dookiex · 09-27-2011, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

But that part has already been done.

EXACTLY. Imagine if he was to have to go back and re-restore it for yet another edition. Colour code everything. Clean up the prints. Etc. Let's face it, if Lucas was ever going to release the original theatrical cuts, he's probably going to want to go back and do it from scratch. Plus going about it that way would be a much easier sell to get people to rebuy what they already own.

Beast · 09-27-2011, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

Shaft W and Beast - no offense - I don't know how old you guys are - but you are - neither of you - understanding what exactly is being said here.

What does age have to do with it? But Star Wars (not A New Hope) was the very first movie I saw in theaters in '77.

mtrouth · 09-27-2011, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtrouth

I noticed some slight static/distortion during the Death Star explosion in Return of the Jedi as the sound moves int the rear speakers. It is a slight static that is present in both the right and left rear channels. I think it is supposed to be there, but I'm not sure. Anyone else experience this on their system?

Guys, I would really appreciate if someone could answer this for me. It would mean a great deal to me.

Dynamo of Eternia · 09-27-2011, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uxi

He's not the only one being laughed at.

True. I'm sure you are, too.

BouCoupDinkyDau · 09-27-2011, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

What does age have to do with it? But Star Wars (not A New Hope) was the very first movie I saw in theaters in '77.

Me too. I was four-and-a-half, and barely remember the experience. The biggest thing that stood out for me in my memory was Luke's torpedoes heading for the shaft.

I think Doof thinks you're younger though, because Shaft over there believes the '97 SEs are the same cuts as the originals.

Weirded Wonder · 09-27-2011, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

Shaft W and Beast - no offense - I don't know how old you guys are - but you are - neither of you - understanding what exactly is being said here.

I guessed 8.

I found the scene that inspired Jar Jar receiving farts at the pod race.

Maybe NSFW - especially if you have a crappy boss.

[Show spoiler]

The Doof · 09-27-2011, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dookiex

EXACTLY. Imagine if he was to have to go back and re-restore it for yet another edition. Colour code everything. Clean up the prints. Etc. Let's face it, if Lucas was ever going to release the original theatrical cuts, he's probably going to want to go back and do it from scratch. Plus going about it that way would be a much easier sell to get people to rebuy what they already own.

Honestly, I don't even care about the originals anymore. Lucas has made me not care. All I want is for the now restored and clean negative or whatever IP, dupe, IN, whatever, to be re-scanned at 4K and colour-timed to reflect the DOP's original timings. I want perfect lightsabres and invisible matte boxes. That's it. It would not be that expensive - it would be no more expensive than releasing a back catalog title. I DO NOT care that the SE changes would not benefit from a re-scan because I hate most of them anyway.

I'm willing to pay for this! Through the nose! I will give him my money for this!

Shaft Windu · 09-27-2011, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Doof

Shaft W and Beast - no offense - I don't know how old you guys are - but you are - neither of you - understanding what exactly is being said here.

I grew up with the OT same as you. I owned different VHS-versions then saw them in cinemas in 97 and was blown away. The same with each prequel. I don't like this demand of some outdated version of these movies that is accompanied by hating the prequels - that's all! It's a clear improvement that Hayden has taken his rightful place in the ghost trinity at the end of RotJ. As I said before: What filmmaker would release movies for people who hate the movies? He may in the end give in and release them as some kind of bonus content with the 3D-versions... but I will always prefer the version that ties in with the complete saga!

Weirded Wonder · 09-27-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

So splice it back together, do a new scan of it and release it to blu. What's the problem?

Heck, he should have included that with this set. I would have bought all the other stuff I didn't want just to have that.

Because there was only one print of the OT that could ever be used to restore them to original release version

Raise your hand if you believe the crap the Lucas is shoveling

The Doof · 09-27-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beast

What does age have to do with it? But Star Wars (not A New Hope) was the very first movie I saw in theaters in '77.

Ok, cool. I'm just trying to make sure your confusion re: our re-scanning the neg discussion isn't due to being 10.

Beast · 09-27-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Me too. I was four-and-a-half, and barely remember the experience. The biggest thing that stood out for me in my memory was Luke's torpedoes heading for the shaft.

I remember getting upset when the Jawas shot R2-D2 in the Canyon. Poor R2. His little cry as he falls over gets me everytime.

dookiex · 09-27-2011, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Me too. I was four-and-a-half, and barely remember the experience. The biggest thing that stood out for me in my memory was Luke's torpedoes heading for the shaft.

In other words, you don't really recall the experience as it was originally experienced by the die hard OG Star War fans :P I sure as heck didn't, I watched them when I was 5, then 6, then 7, then basically every time they aired it on TV. Loved it. I think I had a totally different experience of it though. Basically the films were full of curiosities as I wanted to know what all the blinking lights did and how the trinkets worked.

popeflick · 09-27-2011, 08:34 PM

That whole 'the negative is gone' is a bit of a red herring because you can restore films using interpositives and/or other hi grade close copies of that negative. There are options, and when Birth of a Nation is about to be released on blu do I in no way, shape or form believe for a split second an original trilogy release on blu isn't possible with excellent to outstanding results.

View Poll Results: Which version of Star Wars Blu-ray will you be purchasing (or not)?
The Complete Star Wars Saga	1,335	72.48%
The Prequel Box Set	20	1.09%
The Original Trilogy Box Set	110	5.97%
Not Purchasing Star Wars Blu-ray	377	20.47%
Voters: 1842. You may not vote on this poll

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
Star Trek box set 1-10	Blu-ray Movies - International	koontz1973	13	03-03-2015 12:52 PM
New STAR WARS box set (on DVD only)	General Chat	Blu-Ron	40	08-03-2011 03:47 PM
Any Idea when all 6 Star Wars will be released? Possibly 2011	Blu-ray Movies - North America	devils_syndicate	445	08-15-2010 11:52 AM
Star Wars (BD Movies) Release Planned for 2011	Blu-ray Movies - North America	kemcha	5	04-25-2010 03:29 AM
Star Wars CLONE WARS Blu-Ray Exclusive 2 Disc GIFT SET + Comic Book	Blu-ray Movies - North America	little flower	10	11-11-2009 10:35 PM

09-27-2011, 08:34 PM	#37960
popeflick Special Member Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:329 DVD collection:44 MA collection:1	That whole 'the negative is gone' is a bit of a red herring because you can restore films using interpositives and/or other hi grade close copies of that negative. There are options, and when Birth of a Nation is about to be released on blu do I in no way, shape or form believe for a split second an original trilogy release on blu isn't possible with excellent to outstanding results.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals