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The Complete Star Wars Saga 1,335 72.48%
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Old 01-20-2012, 03:44 AM   #40481
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I remember the Admiral Akbar mail away. I also threw him on top of our house.
lol

I remember that mail-away.

I had a bunch of Jawas when I was a kid. I got the radio-controlled sandcrawler as a gift and after the stormtroopers killed them, I buried quite a few of the Jawas. Lost a bunch of them in the flowerbeds.

I had a buddy who used to take a magnifying glass in the sun and burn "wounds" on his G.I. Joe figures.

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Old 01-20-2012, 04:16 AM   #40482
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Not taking sides in yet another Star Wars argument, but the "Star Wars Cantina Adventure Set" was one of the earliest licensed toys. It was put on sale by Kenner as a Sears exclusive in the 1978 Sears Christmas Wish Book, as Christmas of '77 had no Star Wars figures yet, aside from the 'empty box campaign'. This was the one that originally came with the blue Snaggletooth, which was also available as a mail-away with Greedo in 1978. I still remember getting this set that Christmas.

http://theswca.com/index.php?action=...&item_id=39641

I still have that set. Love my blue Snaggletooth!
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:39 AM   #40483
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The same cannot be said for the pod race scene, which was a merchandising opportunity first and foremost. You don't need 20 minutes and prominently feature a bevy of unimportant, completely slapstick alien racers to establish that Anakin has Force abilities that help him in piloting.
The pod race was blatantly merchandising, especially for the length of the race. Otherwise it was nothing else than poor storytelling.

*awaits people claiming it was a justified length, intrinsic to the plot and neither bad storytelling nor blatant merchandising*
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Old 01-20-2012, 04:48 AM   #40484
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I still have that set. Love my blue Snaggletooth!
Same here. One open and one still sealed after 33 years.

I remember they switched to the dark red, short one not long after.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:12 PM   #40486
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It may very well be, but was it written by Lucas?

I just simply don't have any interest in Clone Wars or other SW stuff these days. That's not a blanket dismissal. I just am not interested.
It was George who wanted the story and it is he who defined the concept of the light and dark side to the creative team (there is a feature on this on the Blu-Rays. Under Dagobah, "George Lucas on the Force 2010" it is called I think).

And it was Christian Taylor who wrote them, but what does it matter? The point was that George apparently didn't create any original stuff in a long time for Star Wars, while the Clone Wars has great and original ideas (storylines, planets and concepts still come from Lucas, he lets others write and direct the episodes, which works fine).
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This link isn't working for me. When I click on it, it just takes me to some NY Times log-in page. I set up an account, but when I log in, it then just takes me to what appears to be today's current news headlines. If I sign in and then click on the link again, it just opens another tab with the same log-in screen, and the process is repeated. I've even tried searching Lucas's name to find the article, and I can't seem to locate it.

Can anyone tell me how I can actually read this?
Here you go. Edit: Weird the link doesn't work even after I've copied and pasted it from my history! Here's the article and the /Film article about it.


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George Lucas Is Ready to Roll the Credits

By BRYAN CURTIS
Published: January 17, 2012

This was a new feeling for George Lucas. He made a movie about a plucky band of freedom fighters who battle an evil empire — a movie loaded with special effects like no one had seen before. Then he showed it to executives from all the Hollywood studios. And every one of them said, “Nope.”

One studio’s executives didn’t even show up for the screening. “Isn’t this their job?” Lucas says, astonished. “Isn’t their job at least to see movies? It’s not like some Sundance kid coming in there and saying, ‘I’ve got this little movie — would you see it?’ If Steven (Spielberg) or I or Jim Cameron or Bob Zemeckis comes in there, and they say, ‘We don’t even want to bother to see it. . . .’ ”
[Show spoiler]

Lucas sighs. It’s true that the movie, “Red Tails,” is a biopic about the Tuskegee Airmen rather than a space opera starring the Skywalker clan. But the snub implied that Lucas’s pop-culture collateral — six “Star Wars” movies, four “Indiana Jones” movies, the effects shop Industrial Light and Magic and toy licenses that were selling (at least) four different light sabers this Christmas — was basically worthless. When “Red Tails” opens in theaters on Jan. 20, it will be because Lucas paid for everything, including the prints.
Lucas, who is 67 and still in possession of the full pompadour, told me his story of rejection on a cold December morning at Skywalker Ranch, in Marin County, Calif. He was sitting on a maroon sofa in the animation studios, wearing his standard billionaire-casual outfit — a flannel shirt with rolled-up sleeves, jeans and Nikes — while Padmé Amidala, the heroine of the “Star Wars” prequels, peeked down from two paintings arranged on either side of his head.

“I’m retiring,” Lucas said. “I’m moving away from the business, from the company, from all this kind of stuff.”

He was careful to leave himself an out clause for a fifth “Indiana Jones” film. But otherwise, “Red Tails” will be the last blockbuster Lucas makes. “Once this is finished, he’s done everything he’s ever wanted to do,” says Rick McCallum, who has been producing Lucas’s films for more than 20 years. “He will have completed his task as a man and a filmmaker.”

Lucas has decided to devote the rest of his life to what cineastes in the 1970s used to call personal films. They’ll be small in scope, esoteric in subject and screened mostly in art houses. They’ll be like the experimental movies Lucas made in the 1960s, around the time he was at U.S.C. film school, when he recorded clouds moving over the desert and made a movie based on an E. E. Cummings poem. During that period, Lucas assumed he would spend his career on the fringes. Then “Star Wars” happened — and though Lucas often mused about it, he never committed himself to the uncommercial world until now.

Sitting in a sun-drenched office, his voice boyish, Lucas talked about himself as if he were a character in one of his movies. He’s at the end of an epic saga; he’s embracing a new destiny (“Make the art films, George”); he’s battling former acolytes who have become his sworn enemies; and George Lucas is — no kidding — in love. Before he takes his digital camera with him into obscurity, though, Lucas has one last mission. He wants to prove that with “Red Tails,” he can still make the kind of movie everyone in the world will want to see.

THE LAST BLOCKBUSTER

A little more than a week before our meeting at the ranch, Lucas stood in front of the screen in a packed theater in Times Square. An army of African-American power brokers looked down upon him from stadium seating. Richard Parsons was there. Spike Lee. David Dinkins. Al Sharpton. Desirée Rogers, the former White House social secretary. Lee Daniels, the director of “Precious.”
Lucas was sporting his traditional uniform of jeans and a button-down — but this time with a black cashmere sport coat, a flourish one Lucasite credited to Mellody Hobson, Lucas’s girlfriend of about five years, who is president of one of the largest African-American-owned assets-management firms in the country. She stood at his side as Lucas told the crowd about his plan to avenge the studios’ snub. (20th Century Fox finally agreed to distribute the movie domestically but will not be paying any of the costs.) Lucas, in a playful mood, said a huge opening weekend would persuade the studios to finance a second “Red Tails” movie — a prequel — “that Spike Lee’s gonna make!” From the crowd, Lee yelled, “When do we start?” Lucas continued, “And we can get somebody else — Lee Daniels — to do the sequel!”

All preview screenings are wildly optimistic celebrations of the possible. But this was different. This was a rally. “On Jan. 20,” an 89-year-old Tuskegee ace named Roscoe C. Brown Jr., told the crowd, “every African-American in this country ought to go see ‘Red Tails.’ ” Desirée Rogers, who is now C.E.O. of Johnson Publishing Company, said she was splashing “Red Tails” on the cover of Ebony. And Al Sharpton, sounding like a “Star Wars” fanboy in 1977, later insisted that “it’s probably one of the best movies I’ve ever seen!”

Lucas first heard the story of the Tuskegee Airmen from a friend, the photographer George Hall, in 1988. It appealed on a visceral level — “I’m a fan of fast things” — and also because, despite criticism that “Star Wars” was too white, Lucas has always had an interest in civil rights. Back in the 1970s, Lucas almost cast an African-American as Han Solo (Glynn Turman, who played the first Baltimore mayor in “The Wire”).

Most important, though, the airmen, World War II pilots who won nearly 100 Distinguished Flying Crosses, fit perfectly in Lucas’s mythic-heroic view finder. If there’s a through line in the “Star Wars” and “Indiana Jones” movies, it’s a childlike view of heroism. “Star Wars,” with its CliffsNotes Joseph Campbell formula, was a rejection of 1970s gloom; two decades later, the prequel movies were more innocent than “Harry Potter” and “The Lord of the Rings.” Lucas’s films are relentlessly — and to some, maddeningly — old-fashioned and naïve. “If it’s a popcorn movie,” Lucas told me, “it needs a lot of corn.”
The first “Red Tails” scripts, which Lucas began commissioning in the early 1990s, suggested a three-part epic. Imagine the opening scenes in segregated Alabama, where one of the original Tuskegee instructors takes Eleanor Roosevelt for a spin; then picture the airborne dogfights over Europe, with slick visual effects from Industrial Light and Magic; and finally, in an irony worthy of Ralph Ellison, envision the war heroes returning home to find that the country they fought for is still in the clammy hands of Jim Crow. “You think ‘Lawrence of Arabia,’ you think ‘The Bridge on the River Kwai,’ ” Rick McCallum says. “Then you think, Oh, my God, ‘Red Tails.’ ”

“I can’t make that movie,” Lucas recalled thinking when he read the scripts. “I’m going to have make this kind of . . . entertainment movie.” So Lucas focused on the middle chapter: the dogfights and the Nazi-hunting black pilots who shout, “How you like that, Mr. Hitler!” (When I mention Lucas’s naïve style to Michael Bay, the director of the “Transformers” movies, he says sympathetically, “That’s what I get crap for from mycritics.”)
For a model, Lucas studied flag-waving World War II films like Nicholas Ray’s “Flying Leathernecks,” which starred John Wayne. “We made movies like this during the war, and everybody just loved them,” he said. “I said, ‘There’s no reason why that idealism, that kind of naïveté, can’t still exist.’ ” But Lucas wanted naïveté on his own terms. He slipped into a kind of Socratic conversation with an imaginary studio head.
“They say, Now, who are you making this for?”
“I’m making it for black teenagers.”

“And you’re doing it as a throwback movie? You’re not going to do it as a hip, happening-now, music-video kind of movie?”

“No, that’s not a smart thing to do. There’s not really going to be a lot of swearing in it. There’s probably not going to be a huge amount of blood in it. Nobody’s head’s going to get blown off.”

“And you’re going to be very patriotic — you’re making a black movie that’s patriotic?”

“They have a right to have their history just like anybody else does,” Lucas said. “And they have a right to have it kind of Hollywood-ized and aggrandized and made corny and wonderful just like anybody else does. Even if that’s not the fashion right now.”

The key then to understanding Lucas’s last blockbuster, like his first, is not how futuristic he’s making it but how retrograde.

REVENGE OF THE FANBOYS

Since 1997, the year Lucas released his special editions of the original “Star Wars” movies in theaters, he has been attacked by the very fans who once embraced his heroic style. They didn’t like how Lucas changed the old movies; they didn’t like the prequels, which seemed wooden and juvenile; and the Star Wars merchandising blitz they once gorged on had begun to drive them nuts. (All six “Star Wars” films will return to theaters in 3-D, beginning in February.)
“I think there are a lot more important things in the world” than feuds with fanboys, Lucas says with a kind of weary diffidence. But then he gets serious, even a little wounded. Lucas explains that his first major features — “THX 1138” and “American Graffiti” — were forcibly re-edited by the studios. Those were wrenching experiences he has compared to someone keying your car (he loves cars) or chopping a finger off one of your children (he has three and loves them too). Afterward, Lucas set out to gain financial independence so the final cut would forever be his. “If the movie doesn’t work,” he vowed, “it’s going to be my fault.”

In the last decade and a half, Lucas has given “Star Wars” several “final” cuts. For the 1997 special edition, he made Greedo, a green-skinned alien, fire his blaster at Han Solo because Han’s murdering Greedo in cold blood — as the 1977 version had it — struck him as a violation of his own naïve style. For the new Blu-ray version of “Return of the Jedi,” Lucas added Darth Vader shouting, “Nooo!” as he seizes the evil emperor in the movie’s climactic scene. Lucas made the Ewoks blink. And so forth.

When fanboys wailed, Lucas did not just hear the scream of young Jedis; he heard something like the voice of the studio. The dumb, uncomprehending voice in his Socratic dialogues — a voice telling him how to make a blockbuster. “On the Internet, all those same guys that are complaining I made a change are completely changing the movie,” Lucas says, referring to fans who, like the dreaded studios, have done their own forcible re-edits. “I’m saying: ‘Fine. But my movie, with my name on it, that says I did it, needs to be the way I want it.’ ”

Lucas seized control of his movies from the studios only to discover that the fanboys could still give him script notes. “Why would I make any more,” Lucas says of the “Star Wars” movies, “when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?”

THE BLUE PEOPLE

After downing a few Grey Goose tonics at New York’s Royalton hotel, Cuba Gooding Jr., one of the stars of “Red Tails,” came up with a rejoinder to all the people who turned down the project. “I like to say James Cameron made a movie just like this,” he said excitedly. “Instead of black people, there were blue people being held down by white people. It was called ‘Avatar!’ And the studios said the same thing to him: ‘We can’t do a movie with blue people!’ ”

THE JOHN WAYNE TREATMENT

To execute his popcorn vision of “Red Tails,” Lucas turned to Anthony Hemingway, a 36-year-old director who made his name on TV shows like “The Wire.” Hemingway, who had never directed a feature film, comes from the church of David Simon, which values moral murkiness over naïveté, documentary detail about East Baltimore over an ethnography of the Ewok village. It was like hiring a “Hill Street Blues” veteran to direct “Return of the Jedi.”

But from the beginning, Lucas wanted “Red Tails” to have a black director. “I thought, This is the proper way to do this,” he said. Indeed, to scan the credits in “Red Tails” is to see Lucas’s fidelity to African-American filmmakers. There are two black writers and a black executive producer. Terence Blanchard, a Spike Lee collaborator (“Jungle Fever,” “Malcolm X”), wrote the score, and Art Sims, another Lee veteran, designed the one-sheet.
Hemingway couldn’t believe he was working with Lucas. At the end of their first interview, the director turned to Lucas and said, “May the force be with you.” (Hemingway told me that afterward he was so embarrassed, he felt like jumping out of a window.) When Hemingway got the call telling him he’d been hired to direct the next George Lucas movie, he pulled over to the side of the road and began to cry.

Still, he wasn’t sure Lucas was taking this film in the right direction. “I always felt it was much more of a mature film,” Hemingway said. “I felt if you’re going after kids, you have to go through the back door.” But Lucas persuaded him that if they made “Red Tails” as a kids’ picture, at some primal, emotional level, they would connect with the adult fanboys.

“Red Tails” is dominated by plane-to-plane combat (“an hour’s worth of fighting,” Lucas says) that is as impressive as any put on screen. But the movie’s heart is in the relationship between two pilots, Marty “Easy” Julian (Nate Parker) and Joe “Lightning” Little (David Oyelowo). As their nicknames suggest, Easy respects army brass and plays by the rules; Lightning bristles at authority and blows up German warships when he chooses. Hemingway told Parker and Oyelowo to imagine they were portraying the famous cleavage in the civil rights movement. “The theme that consistently came up,” Oyelowo says, “was that I was Malcolm to his Martin.”

After Hemingway finished his shoot, “Red Tails” entered a two-year postproduction phase. Hemingway returned to TV; Lucas worked on additional scenes and effects. The movie still felt a tad reverent, so in early 2010, Lucas hired Aaron McGruder, the feisty creator of the Boondocks comic strip, as well as a famous “Star Wars” fan. It was an interesting decision, because McGruder was once a vocal opponent of Jar Jar Binks, the floppy-eared alien introduced in the first “Star Wars” prequel whose vocal squeaks (“Meesa your humble servant!”) reminded critics of Stepin Fetchit. One Boondocks strip showed Jar Jar with his fist in the air doing the black-power salute; another described Lucas being physically assaulted. “What do I call it when someone who ruins his own pop-culture icons is attacked by a psycho fan?” a McGruder character said. “I call it justice.”

So the man who accused Lucas of racial klutziness found himself supplying dialogue for Lucas’s Malcolm-and-Martin passion project. Lucas and McGruder spent mornings talking over scenes and dialogue. Then McGruder escaped to his Skywalker Ranch apartment, which was named for John Huston, to write new pages.

Did the subject of Jar Jar ever come up? “I can safely say it did not,” McGruder reported. “Not at all. Not even close.” In fact, the comic-book writer, like the “Wire” director, found himself smitten with Lucas’s popcorn vision of “Red Tails.” As McGruder put it, “One of the last things I said to George was: ‘This movie kind of represents the last barrier of equality for the black fighting man. We’ve never had the John Wayne treatment.’ ” Lucas had hit his retro-naïve bull’s-eye.

THE NUCLEAR DISASTER

There’s an episode late in Lucas’s popcorn period that nicely encapsulates the break between him and his fanboys. I speak, of course, of nuking the fridge.
In 2008’s “Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull,” the fourth and least-liked of the Lucas/Spielberg collaborations, Indy steps into a lead-lined refrigerator to survive a nuclear bomb. Like “jumping the shark,” “nuke the fridge” became shorthand for a creative nosedive and inspired a “South Park” episode in which Lucas and Spielberg rape their archaeologist hero. “Blame me,”Spielberg told Empire magazine last fall. “Don’t blame George. That was my silly idea.”

What the blistering fan reaction illustrates is one downside of Lucas’s naïve style. By persuading us to drop our snarky defenses and embrace his fables, Lucas had forged a bond with fanboys like no filmmaker, outside of Spielberg, before or since. (Adjusted for inflation, the three original “Star Wars” movies and “Raiders of the Lost Ark” still rank among the top 20 highest-grossing movies of all time.) But naïveté is a fragile emotion. When Lucas goes back and futzes with his mythology — has Greedo shoot first or creates a goofball like Jar Jar Binks or makes Indy uncool by sticking him in a refrigerator — he isn’t just messing with beloved movies. He’s telling fanboys the naïve belief they gave to him was misplaced.

“What more could one ask for than to have one’s youth back again?” Lucas once asked his biographer, Dale Pollock. Now imagine it being yanked away. If the fanboys had become like the studio to Lucas, then Lucas, to the fanboys, had become the man who breaks the bad news about adulthood. He’d become their dad.

When I told Lucas that Spielberg had accepted the blame for nuking the fridge, he looked stunned. “It’s not true,” he said. “He’s trying to protect me.”
In fact, it was Spielberg who “didn’t believe” the scene. In response to Spielberg’s fears, Lucas put together a whole nuking-the-fridge dossier. It was about six inches thick, he indicated with his hands. Lucas said that if the refrigerator were lead-lined, and if Indy didn’t break his neck when the fridge crashed to earth, and if he were able to get the door open, he could, in fact, survive. “The odds of surviving that refrigerator — from a lot of scientists — are about 50-50,” Lucas said.

But now we’re talking about science rather than emotions, and the Lucas magic is lost.

SPIELBERG UNPLUGGED

I mentioned to Lucas that his pal Spielberg, who released “The Adventures of Tintin” and “War Horse” in December, was directing movies as if he were raging against the dying of the light. “Steven is a born director, which is why he’s such a genius,” Lucas said of the 65-year-old Spielberg. “He’s truly a cinematic genius. But he’s like a kid with a video game. It’s like: ‘C’mon, we’re going. We’re leaving now.’ Death comes. . . . And then Steven goes: ‘I got one more game! I got one more game!’ ”

“One day,” Lucas says, “they’re just going to unplug it and say, ‘You’ve got to go home now.’ ”

LUCAS IN LOVE

Love isn’t an emotion that gets much of a workout in the Lucas universe. But mention Lucas’s girlfriend, Mellody Hobson, and you get expressions of tender devotion that would make Han Solo blush. “They’re very much in love,” says the director and screenwriter Matthew Robbins, a pal of Lucas’s since U.S.C. “It’s the most semi-saccharine thing to be saying about your friend, but it happens to be true.”

“I’m just elated,” the Oscar-winning cinematographer Haskell Wexler says, “that in his old, rich days he’s getting some enjoyment.”

Hobson, aside from being the president of the asset-management firm Ariel Investments, is a financial analyst on “Good Morning America” and a friend of the Obamas’ and Oprah Winfrey’s. She lives in Chicago and Lucas in Northern California, but they see each other nearly every weekend. Though Lucas is a lifelong liberal — “left of the middle,” he once said — before dating Hobson, he rarely left the editing room long enough to participate in politics. Now he does. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Lucas suggested to a reporter that Obama was a Jedi knight, the highest status in the Lucas worldview. In 2009, Hobson took Lucas — wearing a tuxedo — to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner.

“When they started going together,” Al Sharpton told me, “it was like he had started going with black America’s business princess.” Sharpton was baffled by the match until he had lunch with Lucas last year and found him “outraged” and “totally beside himself” about the rejection of “Red Tails.” Hobson, Sharpton realized, had found someone whose passion and drive were equal to hers: “It was like the coming together of two volcanoes!”
When I asked about Hobson, Lucas said, “I’m a ’60s, West Coast, liberal, radical, artsy, dyed-in-the-wool 99 percenter before there was such a thing.” (He was referring to his upbringing rather than his reported $3.2 billion net worth.) “And she’s an East Coast, Princeton grad, Wall Street fund manager, knows all the big players, works in the big world. You would never think that we would get together, have anything in common. But when we did, we realized we had everything in common. It was the most unlikely coupling.”
The operative metaphor isn’t Han Solo’s sly courtship of Princess Leia. It’s Richard Dreyfuss staring slack-jawed at Suzanne Somers in “American Graffiti.” “I was attracted to her,” Lucas continues, “because she’s really, really smart. . . . If you’re more beautiful than I am and smarter than I am and you’ll put up with me, that’s all it takes. I’m there.”

THE WHITE PEOPLE

Last October, Lucas slipped incognito into the first “Red Tails” test screening in Atlanta. He and McCallum huddled together nervously among throngs of teenage boys. When the lights went down, Lucas muttered, “Let the games begin. . . .”

Lucas got one report from the early “Red Tails” test screenings that struck him. Three or four white kids had been spotted yelling, “I’m Easy!” “No, I’m Easy. You’re Lightning!” They’d become “Red Tails” heroes: Easy and Lightning, Malcolm and Martin. “The ultimate line was to have a bunch of 10-year-old white boys say, ‘I want to be like those guys,’ ” Lucas says. “Which is what you get with sports. Which is what you get with music. I wanted to do it just with being an American citizen. Again, that’s corny.”
Lucas was ecstatic. He had minted a new collection of heroes. “It plays,” he excitedly told his friends. “It plays.”

SEVENTIES FEVER

Making “Red Tails” was such a natural experience for Lucas — like Peter Jackson commanding hobbits or Mike Leigh directing an emotionally fraught dinner scene — that you wonder why he would leave for the obscurity of the experimental world.

Part of Lucas’s urge, it seems, is to reassert himself as a figure of the ’70s. Peter Biskind’s book “Easy Riders, Raging Bulls” split the ’70s Movie Brat generation into warring camps: Martin Scorsese, Hal Ashby and Robert Altman, the protectors of Art, versus Lucas and Spielberg, the guys who turned movies into video games. (It seemed like a worse insult 10 years ago.) Among the many problems with this theory is that Lucas’s work on technical advances, like digital filmmaking and computer-generated imagery, has begun to help the very directors whose careers he supposedly vaporized. The year in which Martin Scorsese releases “Hugo” — a movie with 15 times the number of C.G.I. shots as “Jurassic Park” — is the year in which it’s no longer O.K. to call Lucas a villain.

Lucas has also looked longingly at the career of Francis Ford Coppola, his onetime mentor. After years of tussling with the studios (and making his own flops without their interference), Coppola began self-financing movies like “Twixt” that find tiny audiences and often get brutal reviews from critics. Coppola loves the idea of Lucas’s joining him in creating these kinds of films. “Now that he’s demonstrated his commercial moviemaking abilities,” Coppola wrote in an e-mail, “it’s time to show his other side.” He said Lucas’s personal films — a combination of light and music and crack editing — are his “real gift.”

But you wonder if this view — the commercial versus the personal, the blockbuster versus the experimental art film — is as reductive as the 1970s model. In fact, Lucas has always made personal films, just not in the traditional sense. The very first time Lucas showed “Star Wars” to friends, with World War II movie dogfights standing in for the unfinished effects, Spielberg is reported to have said, “That movie is going to make $100 million, and I’ll tell you why — it has a marvelous innocence and naїveté in it, which is George, and people will love it.”

That was without the Star Destroyers — it was just Lucas’s corny self up on the screen. Luke Skywalker’s battle with Darth Vader was given emotional heft by Lucas’s own relationship with his father, who owned a stationery shop and wanted George to join the family business. When Luke left his backwater planet for greater glory, he did so with the same resolve with which Lucas left his hometown of Modesto, Calif., a note Lucas struck perfectly in “American Graffiti.” (“Steve Bolander is an insurance agent in Modesto,” reads the “Graffiti” postscript — it sounds like Lucas’s nightmare.) Even 1984’s “Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom” is a kind of personal film. “I was going through a divorce, and I was in a really bad mood,” Lucas told me. So he dreamed up a villain who reaches into men’s chests and pulls out their hearts. Did he really intend to create a metaphor that direct? “Yeah,” Lucas said glumly. The period is hard for him to think about.

Critics have said that Lucas’s personal flourishes are elemental and unsophisticated. But, as Spielberg put it, that is George. He ushered in what you might call the personal blockbuster. Amid the dead-eyed sequel-makers who haunt the multiplex, there are directors who have figured out how to insert themselves — their kinks, the fears, their passions — into $100 million crowd-pleasers. In the Batman movies and “Inception,” Christopher Nolan works out his obsession with privacy and the sanctity of our minds; David Fincher burrows into the heads of loners (Lisbeth Salander, the Zodiac Killer, Mark Zuckerberg) on society’s fringes. When Tim Burton makes a bad movie (like “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”), the problem is often that it’s too personal; we’re locked in Burton’s head when we could use some popcorn.
Lucas talks reverently of a certain category of megadirector — James Cameron (“Avatar”) and Peter Jackson (“The Lord of the Rings”) — who, like him, shepherd personal, seemingly ridiculous visions to the screen, only to watch them connect with a mass audience. “Those to me are some of the more interesting movies,” Lucas said. It’s because, under even the strictest 1970s definition, they’re personal films.

When Lucas talks about how excited he is to leave behind the rigors of blockbuster filmmaking — how he is “retiring, in a way, from my past” — he is, in the manner of a Lucas character, searching for his true self. A pesky “Star Wars” fanboy might suggest he already found him.

RIDE OFF, CUE SUNSET

Lucas doesn’t think the studios were being racist in rejecting his all-black action adventure. They were merely confused. Just as with “Star Wars,” they were being shown a movie that didn’t fit their marketing schema. “What’s it like?” Lucas asked, slipping again into a Socratic dialogue.
“Well,” he replied, “it’s kind of like ‘The Color Purple,’ only they’re in airplanes. It’s sort of like a Tyler Perry movie, only without jokes.”

And so, after shelling out nearly $100 million on the project, Lucas was sitting in his office in his flannel shirt dreaming of what his final blockbuster might rake in at the box office. “If we can get over $20 million in our first weekend,” Lucas said, “we’re kind of in the game. We’re in ‘The Help’ category.”
It was strange to hear the creator of “Star Wars” cap his aspirations at “The Help.” And sure enough, Lucas’s hypothetical grosses began to grow.
“If it gets $30 (million) in the first weekend,” he continued, “then those guys get to make their movies without even thinking about it.” Here Lucas meant Spike Lee or Lee Daniels or whoever else might direct the “Red Tails” prequel and sequel.

“If it does ‘Twilight’ business,” Lucas said. And here, to be clear, he was joking. But it’s a joke you get to make only when you’ve rewired a few generations’ worth of moviegoers’ brains. “If it does ‘Twilight’ business,” Lucas said, “then, gosh, all movies will be black.”

The sentiment is perfectly corny and naїve, and at the end of an amazing saga, it sounds like George Lucas’s preferred way of saying goodbye.


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I feel quite sad for the man after everything he has given us over the years and I hope he can find some measure of peace in his "retirement". He's definitely earned it.
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The pod race could and should have been trimmed down to allow for more actual story. And I also think that having Anakin be a child in the 1st movie was a horrible decision. He had 3 movies to tell the story of Darth Vader became Darth Vader, and he wastes an entire movie on a child that reveals nothing about his character except that he can build a droid and he's a good pilot. It would've been better to have him be about Luke's age and be on the edge of the dark side due to his anger at being a slave (to a master alot more intimidating than Watto). I swear, anyone else could've come up with a better plot than what we were given. I feel like we all got screwed out of a great saga because George wanted to sell toys.
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It was George who wanted the story and it is he who defined the concept of the light and dark side to the creative team (there is a feature on this on the Blu-Rays. Under Dagobah, "George Lucas on the Force 2010" it is called I think).

And it was Christian Taylor who wrote them, but what does it matter? The point was that George apparently didn't create any original stuff in a long time for Star Wars, while the Clone Wars has great and original ideas (storylines, planets and concepts still come from Lucas, he lets others write and direct the episodes, which works fine).
....and that is what he should have done with the PT. Oh well. Glad he is retiring from "Blockbuster" filmmaking. But does anyone else get the feeling that his plan to make 'smaller films that play in little indie theaters' is not really good idea? I haven't heard an idea that halfbaked since medicolorians and Michael Bay wanting to 'do something small...'

George hasn't filmed anything without a green/blue screen in years and he doesn't necessarily work well with actors, nor does he write very good dialogue. It is like taking his major weaknesses and amplifying them tenfold. If he thinks critics and fans have been harsh on him for the PT, he is in for a real rude awakening. Ice skating uphill. I wish him luck, but the magic he had in American Graffiti and THX-1138 are long gone.
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Definitely sad to hear he's "retiring," but somehow I don't believe he's through making "blockbusters" just yet.

Speaking of Lucas, I'm not sure how revealing this will be, but this Sunday (January 22nd) Oprah will have an in-depth interview with George on her new show on the OWN channel. She'll also take a tour of Skywalker Ranch with the camera crew, and interview some people close to him.

Now, say what you will about Oprah, but she does know how to conduct a decent interview. It'll be interesting to see George's more personal thoughts regarding his films and legacy. Perhaps he might even shed some light on some of the controversy surrounding his career, who knows what could happen?
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....and that is what he should have done with the PT. Oh well. Glad he is retiring from "Blockbuster" filmmaking. But does anyone else get the feeling that his plan to make 'smaller films that play in little indie theaters' is not really good idea? I haven't heard an idea that halfbaked since medicolorians and Michael Bay wanting to 'do something small...'

George hasn't filmed anything without a green/blue screen in years and he doesn't necessarily work well with actors, nor does he write very good dialogue. It is like taking his major weaknesses and amplifying them tenfold. If he thinks critics and fans have been harsh on him for the PT, he is in for a real rude awakening. Ice skating uphill. I wish him luck, but the magic he had in American Graffiti and THX-1138 are long gone.
I would guess IF Lucas goes "small" the films would still be technical in nature. That has always been where his talents lie and his comfort zone. Actor involvement would probably be minimal. I've always thought he would have been great in the silent film era..just let the visuals tell the story. And he could still do green screen on a small budget..that stuff isn't nearly as expensive as it once was. I may be all wrong on this, just my take. Like I said previously, I would be interested in seeing what he comes up with.
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You're missing the original point, which was that the entire sequence was a bloated momentum-killing waste whose duration could've been cut by at least 75% if Lucas wasn't selling a video game based on the premise on top of action figures of the unnecessary characters involved therein.
Watching the podrace with a good surround sound system or decent surround headphones is one of my favorite parts of the blu ray set. I show that scene off on my 60 inch tv to friends who come over and everyone is blown away by the sound and the action. There are lots of wow experiences on this box set and the podrace is definitely up there with the best of 'em
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Watching the podrace with a good surround sound system or decent surround headphones is one of my favorite parts of the blu ray set. I show that scene off on my 60 inch tv to friends who come over and everyone is blown away by the sound and the action. There are lots of wow experiences on this box set and the podrace is definitely up there with the best of 'em
surround headphones? id like to get some better phones, but aren't they all stereo?
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Toys or not, the pod race was one of the best moments to show off my speakers systems. And it certainly can blow the senses off anyone!

And seriously, why get upset over what George Lucas does to his films?

If it bothers you so much, then just don't watch.

I say, let this old geezer do whatever he wants with his money. Because without him, the film industry wouldn't be where it is today.

He was the one to push for special effects. Then visual effects. Animation. 6.1 surround sound. THX certification for theatres, which is followed by DVDs and finally BDs. And probably lots more.
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Definitely sad to hear he's "retiring," but somehow I don't believe he's through making "blockbusters" just yet.

Speaking of Lucas, I'm not sure how revealing this will be, but this Sunday (January 22nd) Oprah will have an in-depth interview with George on her new show on the OWN channel. She'll also take a tour of Skywalker Ranch with the camera crew, and interview some people close to him.

Now, say what you will about Oprah, but she does know how to conduct a decent interview. It'll be interesting to see George's more personal thoughts regarding his films and legacy. Perhaps he might even shed some light on some of the controversy surrounding his career, who knows what could happen?

I'm not sure how in-depth it will be. It's basically a promotional vehicle for the new movie. I notice in the listings that it shows Gooding and Howard in addition to Lucas. Considering the purpose of the show is to promote "Red Tails" and will feature interviews with all three, in addition to background on the Tuskegee Airmen, I doubt you'll see more than a quick summary of Lucas' career. Factor in commercials and you've probably got 42-46 minutes for all of this. We'll have to wait and see.
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This is hilarious...

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...203157640.html
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Not sure if this was posted in the last 4 days already, but I thought you guys might be interested in thís cut of the movie:

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I like the entire Star Wars series and always will. I dont agree with every little thing but Im damned happy we got 'em.
I'm in a different boat....I bought the SW blu set....but I haven't watched it yet.

I just cant see investing another 12+ hours into something that only frustrates and irritates me at the end of the day.....if I don't watch it in the next year or two, I'll likely sell it off. And I can't ever recall, with all the different SW releases I've bought, any time when I wasn't excited about seeing Star Wars....but I just can't raise my interest enough to care much about it anymore.
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I'm in a different boat....I bought the SW blu set....but I haven't watched it yet.

I just cant see investing another 12+ hours into something that only frustrates and irritates me at the end of the day.....if I don't watch it in the next year or two, I'll likely sell it off. And I can't ever recall, with all the different SW releases I've bought, any time when I wasn't excited about seeing Star Wars....but I just can't raise my interest enough to care much about it anymore.
And thats fine. I dont fully understand but I can accept your decision. As weve beaten on a million times, some of the changes are lame, even outright infuriating. But, in the 6+ hours of footage the original films cover - we are talking about maybe 15 minutes to 20 minutes TOPS of changed footage. Some scenes are super fast and dont even count.

And, lets not forget that some of the changes are actually welcomed by most of us - they clean up effects or just make things better. My classic example of a welcomed change is the updated Battle of Yavin. Better effects, better dogfights, better everything. Just an example.

If you hate the prequels and cant get past their flaws then theres not much you can do about that.

Overall though, 12+ hours of runtime and there is only about an hours worth of cringey scenes or changes I dont like. The other 11 hours is fantastic stuff. I'll take that ratio anyday.

Many of my favorite films & series also have some stuff I dont like. The good outweighs the bad though.
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