Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[horizonline]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

The very first film had a huge advantage because moviegoers had simply never seen anything like it before. Sure, there had been movies set in space, but there hadn't been such an escapist type of popular movie for a long time that used special effects to such a novel extent. That's also what gives an advantage to films like "Titanic" or "Avatar", which offer something that feels pretty new to moviegoers.
Besides, VCRs were all but unheard of in 1977; nobody was going to put off watching a movie several times in the theater because a home video release could be a few months away. Thus the film played in many cities for a year or longer.

Yeah. The elitist I knew in the early '80s had heard of home video. Not many had heard of Betamax, which my family had owned.

[Breather]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

Or you can use this site's price tracker

True. I tend to do things the hard way I guess.

I'll have to give the price tracker a look sometime.

[AlexSing]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

You had me at "gym." You mean Star Wars fans go to gyms? j/k

Haha, well I have a wife and don't like the prequels so I'm not a true Star Wars fan anyway

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by horizonline

Yeah. The elitist I knew in the early '80s had heard of home video. Not many had heard of Betamax, which my family had owned.

By the early 80s, it was a different story. But I was talking about 1977. The SW phenomenon really preceded the home video revolution, so growing up back then, if you really liked a movie like STAR WARS it really made sense to want to watch it dozens of times in the theaters.

Nowadays, you know almost every movie will be out on DVD/BD within 4-5 months after the theatrical release. So unless it's a 3-D movie and you don't have 3-D at home yet, or unless it's something you want to see in IMAX or whatever, there's usually not a huge incentive to watching it theatrically.

BTW we also used to have a Betamax in my house, but mostly it was easier to use it for recording stuff off the TV than for watching pre-recorded movies. Even when the studios started releasing pre-recorded movies, they were always pan-and-scan versions, and that kinda sucked, too.

[Rambaldi47]

Originally Posted by AlexSing

Even the fact that I had kept wondering what had happened to Darth Vader after Ep4 and whether he'd be ok after flying off into space with no Death Star to go to was exciting. The fact he'd clearly regrouped, got command of a huge ship and was actively seekeing out the Rebellion (making the end of the first seemingly just a small victory) made the first hour even more exciting.

I agree. I also always wondered how Vader found out it was Luke who blew up the Death Star. Did news travel all over the galaxy? Plus I always liked how Vader knew by the time Empire began, but then later on the Emperor calls to tell him that Luke did it. I guess the Emperor was out of the loop for a while.

[IronWaffle]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

You had me at "gym." You mean Star Wars fans go to gyms? j/k

I'd think that George Lucas' neck has inspired many fans to go to the gym.

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by IronWaffle

I'd think that George Lucas' neck has inspired many fans to go to the gym.

+like

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Rambaldi47

I agree. I also always wondered how Vader found out it was Luke who blew up the Death Star. Did news travel all over the galaxy? Plus I always liked how Vader knew by the time Empire began, but then later on the Emperor calls to tell him that Luke did it. I guess the Emperor was out of the loop for a while.

Vader obviously had spies - and the Emperor as well. Plus just because the Emperor brings it up for the first time w/ Vader in ESB doesn't mean he didn't know it before that.

[diL]

Looking to buy the three bonus discs from the complete saga. PM if interested or if you know of any way to buy them individually. Thanks.

[dcowboy7]

With this weekends results phantom moves up to #4 all time:

1 Avatar -- $760,507,625
2 Titanic -- $600,788,188
3 The Dark Knight -- $533,345,358
4 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace -- $464,826,295
5 Star Wars -- $460,998,007

[riverbelow]

Those figures arent adjusted for inflation. Which they really should be.

Definitely the studios like it this way, they can say theatres are just as popular.

Look what happens when you do this

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

[Show spoiler]
1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,582,009,400 1939^
2 Star Wars Fox $1,394,676,400 1977^
3 The Sound of Music Fox $1,115,112,400 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $1,110,719,400 1982^
5 The Ten Commandments Par. $1,025,730,000 1956
6 Titanic Par. $1,004,948,300 1997^
7 Jaws Uni. $1,002,857,100 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago MGM $971,980,600 1965
9 The Exorcist WB $865,991,500 1973^
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. $853,470,000 1937^
11 101 Dalmatians Dis. $782,352,100 1961^
12 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $768,754,400 1980^
13 Ben-Hur MGM $767,340,000 1959
14 Avatar Fox $761,508,800 2009^
15 Return of the Jedi Fox $736,485,200 1983^
16 The Sting Uni. $697,988,600 1973
17 Star Wars The Phantom Menace Fox $697,924,100 1999^

Star wars ep 1 becomes 17 all time. Proving it's inferior numbers to all other original trilogy theatrically.

[AlexSing]

Originally Posted by riverbelow

Those figures arent adjusted for inflation. Which they really should be.

Definitely the studios like it this way, they can say theatres are just as popular.

Look what happens when you do this

http://boxofficemojo.com/alltime/adjusted.htm

[Show spoiler]
1 Gone with the Wind MGM $1,582,009,400 1939^
2 Star Wars Fox $1,394,676,400 1977^
3 The Sound of Music Fox $1,115,112,400 1965
4 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $1,110,719,400 1982^
5 The Ten Commandments Par. $1,025,730,000 1956
6 Titanic Par. $1,004,948,300 1997^
7 Jaws Uni. $1,002,857,100 1975
8 Doctor Zhivago MGM $971,980,600 1965
9 The Exorcist WB $865,991,500 1973^
10 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Dis. $853,470,000 1937^
11 101 Dalmatians Dis. $782,352,100 1961^
12 The Empire Strikes Back Fox $768,754,400 1980^
13 Ben-Hur MGM $767,340,000 1959
14 Avatar Fox $761,508,800 2009^
15 Return of the Jedi Fox $736,485,200 1983^
16 The Sting Uni. $697,988,600 1973
17 Star Wars The Phantom Menace Fox $697,924,100 1999^

Star wars ep 1 becomes 17 all time. Proving it's inferior numbers to all other original trilogy theatrically.

Nice stats fella

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by riverbelow

Star wars ep 1 becomes 17 all time. Proving it's inferior numbers to all other original trilogy theatrically.

All it shows imho is that there's very few movies from the last couple of decades that can crack the top 15 of all-time. In fact, of the movies from the 90s and the 00s, only "TPM", "Avatar" and "Titanic" are in the top 15.

[Falaskan]

If they want a fair comparison, they need to release every other movie at least 3 times. You can't say Ep 1 is that great since it was released more than once.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

If they want a fair comparison, they need to release every other movie at least 3 times. You can't say Ep 1 is that great since it was released more than once.

TPM is a great movie, regardless of the box-office results. As for releasing all other movies multiple times... most of them were, at one point or another.

[AlexSing]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

TPM is a great movie, regardless of the box-office results. As for releasing all other movies multiple times... most of them were, at one point or another.

Does Beast have an alt login?

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by AlexSing

Does Beast have an alt login?

LOL

I was starting to wonder that also.



And concerning 'Box Office Totals', GWTW reported totals are grossly inaccurate which was brought up during AVATAR's box office rampage a few years ago. So we will unfortunately probably never know it's true grand total.

.

[Lemmy Lugosi]

Originally Posted by BluBonnet

TPM is a great movie.

No, it's not.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by Lemmy Lugosi

No, it's not.

There's a lot of great stuff in all of the PT, even if they're just "popcorn movies". What's really wonderful is that Lucas managed to pay homage to the stuff kids enjoyed in the 30s and 40s and, at the same time, he has put in a lot of other stuff that is likely to sail over kids' heads, but that they may enjoy when they're older and revisit the movies. You know he liked "Flash Gordon", but as a film student he also came to appreciate Kurosawa, Bergman and other great directors from that era.

I certainly do think of "The Phantom Menace" as one of the very best films of the last 20 years, even though evidently there are those who wouldn't agree...

[dcowboy7]

Originally Posted by riverbelow

Those figures arent adjusted for inflation. Which they really should be.

Adjusting for inflation also is a problem too though.

Years ago people had actually go to the movies....now theres premium channels, rentals, bluray etc.

I never go to the movies anymore whats the point.

So your adjusting for inflation gives a huge advantage to older movies.