Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Falaskan]

For those asking, go to this link and read the posts from "AuggieBenDoggie" and down:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/top...14771/page/22/

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

For those asking, go to this link and read the posts from "AuggieBenDoggie" and down:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/top...14771/page/22/

WOW!

Thanks for that!


I also like this interesting unconfirmed rumor that seems to jive with the Marketsaw report from last week-

batmatt92


Hey all, I never post here but I'm a big-time lurker.

Anyway, something I thought you all would find interesting- I'm a college student studying film and today my screenwriting professor (who works in the industry) told us he got a meeting with Disney to pitch for Episode VII. He said there were only a few parameters given, including:

Luke Skywalker must be included, but not necessarily anyone else from the existing films, and he must be age-appropriate for Hamill, who is 100% for sure in the movie.

Skywalker must have a new "Jedi Academy" that he has founded and oversees.

Disney/Lucasfilm are looking for a "dark" story. My professor said they're seeking out writers who have experience along those lines. They don't seem to care about experience with big movies, they just want writers who can do good characters with a serious tone.

Other than that, it sounds like the potential writers have free reign to come up with whatever they want. Apparently Skywalker doesn't even have to be the main focus, as my professor's idea centers on a new protagonist and Skywalker appears more as a supporting character.

His meeting is sometime within the next week or two I think. If he doesn't get the gig I can tell you what his idea was.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

For those asking, go to this link and read the posts from "AuggieBenDoggie" and down:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/top...14771/page/22/

He got it from a "sources". Okay.

Originally Posted by Duffy12

WOW!

Thanks for that!


I also like this interesting unconfirmed rumor that seems to jive with the Marketsaw report from last week-

Pitch for Episode VII? They already have 2 writers working on it from the treatments by George Lucas. Kathleen Kennedy herself said this.

My source is starwars.com.

[Troy73]

If true, I would love to see Mark Hamill reprise his role as Luke. Luke returning would be an epic launch to a new series of films.

[AlexSing]

Originally Posted by aiman04

He got it from a "sources". Okay.



Pitch for Episode VII? They already have 2 writers working on it from the treatments by George Lucas. Kathleen Kennedy herself said this.

My source is starwars.com.

Treatments by George? Oh well, that's that then...

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

WOW!

Thanks for that!


I also like this interesting unconfirmed rumor that seems to jive with the Marketsaw report from last week-

The best part of that (if true) is they are looking for writers that will be able to do a serious story with interesting characters. The childish simplicity of the prequels is a part of what ruined them for me. The original trilogy told a serious story with the backdrop of high adventure, but the prequels came off like a saturday morning cartoon built for seven-year-olds. Why Lucas decided on such a path still leaves me scratching my head.

I watched A New Hope in theaters when I was five years old and freaking loved it (although I can hardly remember it now). It wasn't taylor made for my age. In fact, parts of it were quite terrifying to a five-year-old, but I still loved it. Why did Lucas decide to water things down when he came back to his universe then? Kids loved what came before. Why make movies just for kids?

Regardless, the new story does not have to be dark, but it should be serious again. It should be something you can hang your emotions on while having a good time. The original trilogy was always about the characters, and it sounds like they are moving in that direction again. I think it's cool that The Flannel Man is staying on to consult, making sure all these new ideas from new writers maintain a Star Warsy feel.

Now I just need my UOT restored to HD blu-ray disk!

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by AlexSing

Treatments by George? Oh well, that's that then...

What's wrong with that? Treatments usually have the basic plot, story structure, scenes and action pieces. They have the treatments for the whole sequel trilogy and more. There are two hired writers working on Episode VII to turn it into full script, adding dialogue, etc. The closest Lucas will get is a "story by" credit with the other two getting the "screenplay by" credit, which is exactly the case with The Empire Strikes Back which turned out to be the best in the saga. Dale Pollock have read all 12 movie treatments, and he said that Episodes VII, VIII and IX are the most exciting of them all (he hates the prequels).

The fact is for me, all the new movies must be based on George Lucas' ideas, if not then they're not Star Wars to me. Let other people write & direct but the story must come from him.

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by aiman04

What's wrong with that? Treatments usually have the basic plot, story structure, scenes and action pieces. They have the treatments for the whole sequel trilogy and more. There are two hired writers working on Episode VII to turn it into full script, adding dialogue, etc. The closest Lucas will get is a "story by" credit with the other two getting the "screenplay by" credit, which is exactly the case with The Empire Strikes Back which turned out to be the best in the saga. Dale Pollock have read all 12 movie treatments, and he said that Episodes VII, VIII and IX are the most exciting of them all (he hates the prequels).

The fact is for me, all the new movies must be based on George Lucas' ideas, if not then they're not Star Wars to me. Let other people write & direct but the story must come from him.

+1

Lucas should always be consulting on these, just not writing or directing them. He should be overseeing them to make sure they have the right feel.

He should be like the first officer of a ship: not in command, but always influencing whoever is.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by aiman04

The fact is for me, all the new movies must be based on George Lucas' ideas, if not then they're not Star Wars to me. Let other people write & direct but the story must come from him.

Shadows of the Empire wasn't his idea and it is one hell of a great Star Wars story.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Troy73

Shadows of the Empire wasn't his idea and it is one hell of a great Star Wars story.

You're missing my point.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by aiman04

You're missing my point.

Not at all. You feel more comfortable if Lucas has creative control and final approval.

I feel even more excited now as I've just learned Harrison Ford may come on board even if just to be killed off......or so the rumors are saying.

If the new film can get the band back together and hand it off to the next generation it will easily trump anything Lucas did in the PT of films.

I am so excited for Ep:VII!!!

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Troy73

Not at all. You feel more comfortable if Lucas has creative control and final approval.

I feel even more excited now as I've just learned Harrison Ford may come on board even if just to be killed off......or so the rumors are saying.

If the new film can get the band back together and hand it off to the next generation it will easily trump anything Lucas did in the PT of films.

I am so excited for Ep:VII!!!

Exactly.

Yes, Harrison Ford is willing to return but he wants to read the script first. Rather surprising as I thought he didn't wanna have anything to do with Star Wars anymore.

The sequel trilogy actually started serious work in June, right when George Lucas appointed Kathleen Kennedy as co-chairman. It think it's going to be made even if Disney didn't buy Lucasfilm. Marketsaw broke the news about Episodes VII, VIII and IX in 3D way back in 2009.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Exactly.

Yes, Harrison Ford is willing to return but he wants to read the script first. Rather surprising as I thought he didn't wanna have anything to do with Star Wars anymore.

The sequel trilogy actually started serious work in June, right when George Lucas appointed Kathleen Kennedy as co-chairman. It think it's going to be made even if Disney didn't buy Lucasfilm. Marketsaw broke the news about Episodes VII, VIII and IX in 3D way back in 2009.

That's the thing that has me excited the most. If Ford returns along with Hamill and Fisher my mind can't conceive how this couldn't be epic. Luke as an aging jedi master, Han and Leia and their kids. You could even enlist previous jedi and sith as spirits in the force.

However, the last time I got this excited over a Star Wars film it was Ep:I.

I guess I better settle down and watch this develop over the next two years.

Seriously have not been this excited in a while though.

[kemcha]

Where it concerns the novels, you guys are missing the fact that every single novel is authorized by Lucasfilm. I find it hard to believe that Lucasfilm doesn't review each novel before it gets sent to the printer.

But, the one thing I have to say, is that Lucasfilm would never adapt any of the novels into a motion picture. I think they'll stick to original screenplays coming out of Lucasfilm or Disney.

If they were going to adapt any of the novels, the novels that they need to adapt to film would have to be Timothy Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" trilogy that started off the novel series under Bantam Spectra.

[aiman04]

Originally Posted by Troy73

That's the thing that has me excited the most. If Ford returns along with Hamill and Fisher my mind can't conceive how this couldn't be epic. Luke as an aging jedi master, Han and Leia and their kids. You could even enlist previous jedi and sith as spirits in the force.

However, the last time I got this excited over a Star Wars film it was Ep:I.

I guess I better settle down and watch this develop over the next two years.

Seriously have not been this excited in a while though.

Same here. Also, George Lucas called Mark Hammil and Carrie Fisher for a meeting back in August and told them that he's doing Episodes VII, VIII and IX. Luke and Leia coming back is highly possible.

I spent almost everyday from 1997 to 2005 anticipating the prequels. Jumping to news, casting, speculating plots/characters/action pieces, scrutinizing images, trailers, all while trying to avoid spoilers at the same time. It was very exciting and fun. But I still had a life if that what you're thinking, got married in 2004 and got a kid by end of that year. No matter how the films turned out to be, it was a great experience.

Can't believe now I get to do it again, the next 15 years will be awesome. I'm ready.

Originally Posted by kemcha

Where it concerns the novels, you guys are missing the fact that every single novel is authorized by Lucasfilm. I find it hard to believe that Lucasfilm doesn't review each novel before it gets sent to the printer.

But, the one thing I have to say, is that Lucasfilm would never adapt any of the novels into a motion picture. I think they'll stick to original screenplays coming out of Lucasfilm or Disney.

If they were going to adapt any of the novels, the novels that they need to adapt to film would have to be Timothy Zahn's "Heir to the Empire" trilogy that started off the novel series under Bantam Spectra.

Yes, but Lucas always say they exists separately , I always think that way too (he did use some characters in the prequels, as a treat to the fans nothing more). EU is not part of the canon.

The new films won't be based on any novels. Disney bought the story treatments as part of the deal. It was described as "extensive".

I never read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn, but I think I will now just to get in mood.

[Jumpman]

I'm desperately trying to get excited for the possibilities of the new Lucasfilm and the new Star Wars exploits but it hasn't happen yet.

I know many are celebrating the idea that Lucas is gone and has no further full input onto the series. But, for me, I think it's never going to be the same.

Say what you want about the man but the one thing that new directors of the franchise will never be able to capture in the way Lucas does is the visual language of the Saga.

People joke about Lucas stating that the films have always been silent films but there's a lot of truth to that. Cut out the sound effects and dialogue but keep Williams score, along with the visual across the six films and you'd understand exactly what was happening.

I think that visual language, which is one of the classic, most crucial elements of what makes Star Wars Star Wars, will be lost in the new films...unless it was Spielberg directing the film, only because he comes from a similar visual background as Lucas.

We'll probably get better dialogue, better performances, a tad more serious tone (which Original Trilogy fans will happy about) but it's never going to feel the same without Lucas' guiding hand. It just won't.

I'm not saying I'm swearing off these films but I feel the Saga is complete. Had they announced that they're doing a storyline about the Jedi/Sith Wars that predate the Skywalker story by thousands of years, I'd be up for more Star Wars.

The fact that it's Episode VII just bugs the shit out of me. The cast is too old, even for cameos.

There are so many avenues to do down with the Star Wars universe. Why Episode VII?

[Jumpman]

I never read the Thrawn trilogy by Timothy Zahn, but I think I will now just to get in mood.

In my history of Star Wars, the Thrawn Trilogy is the only Expanded Universe story that I ever explored. I've always maintain that Star Wars is the Skywalker story but given all the reviews of the Thrawn Trilogy, I read it. And it is, indeed, very good. Almost excellent, in fact.

It's been a while since I've read it (15 years?) but it's definitely worth a read.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

The fact that it's Episode VII just bugs the shit out of me. The cast is too old, even for cameos.

There are so many avenues to do down with the Star Wars universe. Why Episode VII?

I think you answer your own question here. They can always go back and do other Star Wars stories, but, if they want to do VII-IX they need to get on it. The actors are getting older and the trilogy will be produced and released in installments over a 8-10 year period of time. This series of films will likely be the swan song to the Skywalker story. Then you can get young Yoda, the origin of the sith, bounty hunters, etc. etc.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Troy73

I think you answer your own question here. They can always go back and do other Star Wars stories, but, if they want to do VII-IX they need to get on it. The actors are getting older and the trilogy will be produced over a 8-10 year period of time. This series of films will likely be the swan song to the Skywalker story.

That's the problem. There's no story left for the Skywalkers after Episode VI. None.

With the addition of the Prequels, Lucas reshaped the story of the Skywalkers to be about the rise, fall, and redemption (through his children) of Anakin Skywalker.

What's the story for Luke and Leia? Luke, by the end of Episode VI, has all his answers. What's his story?

The Sequel Trilogy will be a plot based storyline, not character based, which is completely different than the six before it.

[Troy73]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

That's the problem. There's no story left for the Skywalkers after Episode VI. None.

With the addition of the Prequels, Lucas reshaped the story of the Skywalkers to be about the rise, fall, and redemption (through his children) of Anakin Skywalker.

What's the story for Luke and Leia? Luke, by the end of Episode VI, has all his answers. What's his story?

The Sequel Trilogy will be a plot based storyline, not character based, which is completely different than the six before it.

Well....no one really knows if the next series of films will be character based or plot based or both. It seems like the call is out to bring back the OT actors for the new films and that to me is a very good sign of things to come.

However, we are all just speculating until we have some solid info to go on.