Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 2511 - Blu-ray Forum

SymbioticFunction · 11-30-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

...that's why I haven't bought them yet. PT or OT. I think that they all look and sound terrible.

What makes you think that Revenge of the Sith looks terrible?

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Plus, it is done by the man who made Star Trek watchable, so I have complete faith in him.

I own 3 pre-Abrams Star Trek films: Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home and First Contact. I can assure you that all 3 of those are perfectly watchable movies.

BouCoupDinkyDau · 11-30-2014, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Plus, it is done by the man who made Star Trek watchable, so I have complete faith in him.

Gene Roddenberry?! How the hell did they pull that off?!!

Vlad Draculi · 11-30-2014, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

I own 3 pre-Abrams Star Trek films: Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home and First Contact. I can assure you that all 3 of those are perfectly watchable movies.

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Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Gene Roddenberry?! How the hell did they pull that off?!!

If you say so. I have tried watching other things Star Trek and found myself bored to death. William Shatner is just too terrible of an actor to even enjoy the stuff he is in.

bkfountain · 11-30-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

If you say so. I have tried watching other things Star Trek and found myself bored to death. William Shatner is just too terrible of an actor to even enjoy the stuff he is in.

there's some okay trek films, but it's really a tv franchise. The characters and storylines are far better in the shows than the action focused movies.

popeflick · 11-30-2014, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Elvis

That's not baiting at all...I think he is a clown in the context of what I wrote. Has he not contradicted himself and been caught in lies over the years? The guy changes his mind from year to year with regards to his films. So in my mind he sure is exactly that. It would be a different matter if I were calling him names just because I didn't like his PT or because he has not released the UOT on BD yet (that would be baiting). There is nothing that guy can say anymore that I would believe without at least raising an eyebrow.

Seeing as he started work on the whole thing in 1973, why is he in your mind a liar if he adjusts the story, responds to the audience, evolves with the marketplace, etc? When you finally grow up you'll find that something you started 40 years ago might not resemble how it began. That in no way makes someone a liar.

I'd love for you to list his "lies," but I'm sure you won't.

stvn1974 · 11-30-2014, 05:45 PM

I would be happy with the versions of the OT that we got from the laserdisc ports onto the bonus DVDs. I would even be happy with 2.0 audio at this point.

al cos. · 11-30-2014, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben_UK

The thing is, what exactly do people want from the unaltered original trilogy? There are so many versions out there mainly in terms of sounds and lines missing etc. Further to that, do the fans want the full on originals, I mean the original looking version that came out in 1977, 1980 and 1983? So does that mean they include the orange blob under the speeder in Mos Eisely? Or the "broken" looking laser blasts at certain parts of A New Hope etc?

I think everyone's definition of what constitutes the "original version" may differ somewhat. I'd personally take just a cleaned up version with some of the original FX tidied up. Also, would these original versions retain some of the cuts to the laser blast hits which Lucas took out?

Please. There is ONE visual change before 1997. The crawl. And 3 sound mixes depending on the requirements of the theater. (2 are the same content-wise). Another very slightly different mix in the 80s. Another in '93.

amoergosum · 11-30-2014, 06:25 PM

LOL >>>

"Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer - George Lucas' Special Edition"

BladeRunner2007 · 11-30-2014, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

LOL >>>

"Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer - George Lucas' Special Edition"

Star Wars: Episode VII Trailer - George Lucas' Special Edition - YouTube

BladeRunner2007 · 11-30-2014, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I would be happy with the versions of the OT that we got from the laserdisc ports onto the bonus DVDs. I would even be happy with 2.0 audio at this point.

In fact I'd prefer the original audio mix and no 5.1 upmix bulls....

Gold Ranger · 11-30-2014, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I knew something was wrong when I saw this in the trailer, and now with the .gif, I know what it is that threw my mind...
There's no dirt/sand kick-up behind this.... thing... nor does it leave any track in it's wake.

DCW · 11-30-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I would be happy with the versions of the OT that we got from the laserdisc ports onto the bonus DVDs. I would even be happy with 2.0 audio at this point.

Yup, I agree with this. Just use the laser disk/dvd versions. They're the ones I watch right now and I'm happy with them.

shane01 · 11-30-2014, 06:53 PM

I love the movies, but I've only ever seen a Special Edition in theaters, DVD, and Blu-ray. I would love to have both editions--maybe even all editions!--of the movies just because I'm a fan of Star Wars and of filmmaking. The problem, however, is which edition is the "original, unaltered" edition?

Lucas and co. continued working on the film the same day the film premiered at Grauman's:

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Originally Posted by Ben Burtt

George, Paul Hirsch, and I and everyone in the crew sat down and made a list of the things we didn’t like in the stereo mix. Then we tried to achieve every one of those things on the mono. And we did—different voices for some of the stormtroopers, some new loop lines for Luke, minor changes.

So do we want the "abandoned" edition that opened on May 25th and everyone standing in line down Hollywood Blvd. saw? Or the 70mm mix, which also has changes? Or the mono mix? Or honor the filmmaker who ran out of time the first time and years later made a version that satisfied him?

Personally, I want the abandoned cut that was unleashed on the world on May 25th. Call it the "Grauman's Cut" or something. It would be fascinating. Lucasfilm/Fox already made their money with the box sets, why not have us buy them again?

Thomas Guycott · 11-30-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shane01

So do we want the "abandoned" edition that opened on May 25th and everyone standing in line down Hollywood Blvd. saw? Or the 70mm mix, which also has changes? Or the mono mix? Or honor the filmmaker who ran out of time the first time and years later made a version that satisfied him?

It's not like including three or four different audio tracks is impossible.

octagon · 11-30-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by stvn1974

I would be happy with the versions of the OT that we got from the laserdisc ports onto the bonus DVDs. I would even be happy with 2.0 audio at this point.

2.0, 5.1, 11.36, however the hell many channels I hope whoever mixes A Ne...sorry, can't do it...Star Wars this time around doesn't think the audio effects are the main attraction of the track.

For the most part I'm pretty happy with the saga BD set but some aspects of the audio have me shaking my head from time to time.

HonestJohn · 11-30-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KaineKinetic

I knew something was wrong when I saw this in the trailer, and now with the .gif, I know what it is that threw my mind...
There's no dirt/sand kick-up behind this.... thing... nor does it leave any track in it's wake.

It's called terraplaning .....

DCW · 11-30-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by octagon

For the most part I'm pretty happy with the saga BD set but some aspects of the audio have me shaking my head from time to time.

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EUj...ature=youtu.be

svenge · 11-30-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shane01

So do we want the "abandoned" edition that opened on May 25th and everyone standing in line down Hollywood Blvd. saw? Or the 70mm mix, which also has changes? Or the mono mix? Or honor the filmmaker who ran out of time the first time and years later made a version that satisfied him?

Are you implying that there wasn't any time for GL to have James Earl Jones record a few takes of "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" back in 1983? Or that there was a shortage of boulders in Tunisia to hide a remote-controlled droid in in the mid-1970s? And I'm sure it would've taken days to set up a Greedo dummy to hold a blaster and add a single badly-aimed bolt in post-production...

Besides, if you asked any UOT fan if there was an absolute guarantee of getting the original cuts of Star Wars on BD that they'd find any of the three audio mixes exhibited in 1977 quite acceptable. Personally I'd prefer the 70mm mix, but I'd take the mono or the stereo mix (provided that it was lossless, of course).

Bluyoda · 11-30-2014, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DCW

Like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0EUj...ature=youtu.be

I like your avatar. Ace Vensolo?

Bluyoda · 11-30-2014, 09:30 PM

I watched ANH and TESB today, and they look and sound fantastic for the most part. Really amazing for such relatively old films.
These gotta be leaps and bounds above the DVDs or LDs.

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11-30-2014, 05:45 PM	#50206
stvn1974 Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2012 Location:Earth Trading Score:18	I would be happy with the versions of the OT that we got from the laserdisc ports onto the bonus DVDs. I would even be happy with 2.0 audio at this point.

11-30-2014, 09:30 PM	#50220
Bluyoda Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Dagobah Home Theater Gallery:103 4K collection:160 Blu-ray collection:1383 Blu-ray reviews: 263 Trading Score:4	I watched ANH and TESB today, and they look and sound fantastic for the most part. Really amazing for such relatively old films. These gotta be leaps and bounds above the DVDs or LDs.

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