Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

In all seriousness though. It's a moment reminiscent of Vader's Nooo in ROTS, and that wasn't made until 2005, so in a way....

It's very reminiscent of the cartoonish howl in Sith. That's one of the problems.

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Also, the internal process is really long enough to still easily get it without having him say it, and then it erupts out of him. It truly DOES make it that much more powerful a moment, if one watches it with an open mind.

So basically all open-minded people will see this your way?

How open-minded.

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

My wife didn't shout at the screen: Why did he just say that!!!!?????? He ruined the whole saga for me now!!!!! Geoooooooooooooooorgeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!
She had no problem with it, and no, I hadn't told her about it beforehand.

And over the past thirty years had she ever shouted anything to the effect of 'heeeeeeeeeey, why's Vader throwing his boss over that railing? Has he had a change of heart or something???? Is he no longer on board with the Imperial Program????????????????'

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Maybe, just maybe, these movies weren't made for cynics, who seemingly despise Lucas to the utmost, but for people who actually enjoy them for what they are: Great, entertaining, spiritual morality tales.

Yeah, maybe.

And maybe, just maybe, The Creator made poor choices from time to time.

[kobol]

Everyone except Lucas.

[popeflick]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

In the end this debate is retarded. The core point is that both versions should be on the disc, so you can choose what you prefer. This is how literally every other popular movie with two significantly different versions does things.

Surely EVERYONE can agree that should happen.

There are dvds with both versions.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by popeflick

There are dvds with both versions.

[kobol]

There are DVD's with no 16:9 versions & not remastered. And NOT ON BLU-RAY.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by octagon

It's very reminiscent of the cartoonish howl in Sith. That's one of the problems.

So basically all open-minded people will see this your way?

How open-minded.

And over the past thirty years had she ever shouted anything to the effect of 'heeeeeeeeeey, why's Vader throwing his boss over that railing? Has he had a change of heart or something???? Is he no longer on board with the Imperial Program????????????????'

Yeah, maybe.

And maybe, just maybe, The Creator made poor choices from time to time.

Are you honestly telling me that the people, who have such a huge problem with this scene now, watch it with an open-mind?

Come on, mate. Don't kid yourself.

Either way, it's your problem. Not mine.

I like it the way it is, and I am happy with the BDs.

Your loss. Cheers

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Are you honestly telling me that the people, who have such a huge problem with this scene now, watch it with an open-mind?

I think it's entirely possible to approach that change with an open mind and come away thinking 'geez, that's dumb'.

[PrestigeWorldwide]

Originally Posted by Kryptonic

I also prefer Vader's "No" in Jedi as well. It always seems like it should have been there.

Originally Posted by octagon

Yeah, it's a shame they didn't have the technology to do that right the first time.

Originally Posted by octagon

And over the past thirty years had she ever shouted anything to the effect of 'heeeeeeeeeey, why's Vader throwing his boss over that railing? Has he had a change of heart or something???? Is he no longer on board with the Imperial Program????????????????'

Carry on.

[Thomas Guycott]

Vader's "NO!!" was literally the final straw toward cancelling my preorder.

[stvn1974]

I wonder how many unsuspecting viewers yelled out "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" when getting to that scene for the first time when their BD sets arrived?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I wonder how many unsuspecting viewers yelled out "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" when getting to that scene for the first time when their BD sets arrived?

I didn't. I enjoyed all 6 films on my set...still do.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I didn't. I enjoyed all 6 films on my set...still do.

Because you are awesome.

[Elvis]

Originally Posted by octagon

I think it's entirely possible to approach that change with an open mind and come away thinking 'geez, that's dumb'.

Make no mistake.....that line is dumb. Will never understand why he felt the need to basically ruin three great films and bring them down to the level of utter garbage. Oh the horror.....

[welcometothepartypal]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I didn't. I enjoyed all 6 films on my set...still do.

7 Warning Signs of Alzheimer's

#2. Repeating the same story, word for word, again and again.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by welcometothepartypal

7 Warning Signs of Alzheimer's

#2. Repeating the same story, word for word, again and again.

LOL!
Well I suppose a LOT of people, in this thread, on both sides of the fence, are displaying "warning signs".

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Some have been saying the same thing for.....over a decade!

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You guys need to find a new religion. Preferably something that doesn't revolve around a product of Hollywood.

Tell us more, PeterTHX, if that is your real name?

[welcometothepartypal]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Tell us more, PeterTHX, if that is your real name?

Ziiing!!

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by octagon

I think it's entirely possible to approach that change with an open mind and come away thinking 'geez, that's dumb'.

Yeah, as surely as humans are a peaceful species.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Also, when I asked my wife whom she thought Leia was referring to when he asked her about her memories regarding her real mother.

She immediately said Padme. I said, but Padme died right after giving birth to her. She said that daughters have a stronger connection to their mothers, just like Luke had a stronger connection to his father. She said she was force sensitive, and felt her.

My answer always was, that Bail Organa's wife and adoptive mother had died when Leia was young, and she never knew that she wasn't her real mother, and after that she had another Bail remarried. I guess, my wife's explanation makes more sense, and it came completely naturally from her.
Maybe, what we have been missed all this time, was some female insight. Lol

I found this interesting:

Lucas: He goes back to Vader's wife and explains that Anakin is the bad guy, the one killing all the Jedi.
When he goes back his wife, Mrs Skywalker has had the kids, the twins, so she has these little babies that are six months old or so. So everybody has to go into hiding. The Skywalker line is very strong with the Force, so Ben says, "I think we should protect the kids, because they may be able to right the wrong your husband has created in the universe." And so Ben takes one and gives him to a couple out there on Tatooine and he gets his little hideout in the hills and he watches him grow. Ben can't raise Luke himself, because he's a wanted man. Leia and Luke's mother go to Alderaan and are taken in by the king there, who is a friend of Ben's. She dies shortly thereafter and Leia is brought up by her foster parents. She knows her real mother died.
Kasdan: She does know that?
Lucas: Yes, so we can bring that out when Luke is talking to her; she can say her mother died when "I was two years old."

From The Making of the Return of the Jedi. There's also a bit about any one can use the Force, it's just that the Jedi are masters and Yoda isn't a Jedi, he doesn't have skills he's just a teacher (which is odd as this is after The Empire Strikes Back were Yoda demonstrates his Jedi powers!).

[sarah_wentworth]

Originally Posted by wormraper

sorry, 200 guys? there is a reason it has become a world wide PHENOMENA in regards to fans calling out Lucas on his revisions. there have been whole documentaries created about the fan vs. Lucas etc. this is not just some niche product ....the UA OT would sell quite well, believe me.

well then i hope some day they get released.

Originally Posted by svenge

This. I don't know how that "entitled fan" meme got started with the brain-dead PT/SE faction resident here, but it makes absolutely no sense. Asking for the original theatrical cut of any other visually-groundbreaking motion picture (with an Oscar for "Best Visual Effects", among others) would be lauded on a film-centric forum, not scorned.



Why are you even taking what she says remotely seriously? She's been provably wrong on every single post on this thread to date...

i was only sharing my feelings on the subject. i didn't know there was a right or wrong

Originally Posted by wormraper

are we sure she's actually a she??? as we know online, Men are men, Girls are men, and children are FBI agents

of course i'm a she. i only used my name because i was new to this site and a little drunk when i signed up. i thought it asked for a first and last name so i filled it in. if there is a way to change my name to a fake screen name i would do it.

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

What?? That's almost as bad as one of your prior posts which claimed that Attack of the Clones was the best of the six films.

well i've seen enough people bash the prequels. kind of sucks for those that like them. i think ROTS is my favorite and AOTC my second

Originally Posted by jc480

I like the idea that the Emperor wins and Darth Vader destroys the rebels bringing order to the Empire. Darth Vader is the true good guy and the rabble rouser rebels are the ones who need to be beat up ... Lucas got it wrong!

CGI and some script editing...make it so number one!

yeah plus Palpatine was legally given power. anywhere else where an organized group tries to overthrow a legally elected government by means of violence, that group is considered to be terrorists. i'm really not sure why the rebels even rebelled.

if its just because Palpatine is a Sith, well then that's just prejudice

Palpatine may have orchestrated a couple wars but its happened here on earth and nothing really happens to the leaders. he became leader because he wanted a strong government that could keep the galaxy safe. he even said something like that.