Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Merlinpants]

What everyone seems to forget is this....in 1977 in the version I saw in the cinema, Han didn't shoot first, he was the only one to chuffing shoot.

Devin could be playing on words here. Perhaps they changed the timing from a simultaneous shot from Han and greedo aka 'canon' version to Han shooting one micro second before Greedo. That would be be more in line with my expectations.

[Falaskan]

What I would be curious to see done, is have Temuera Morrison come back and re-record his lines with directions to sound as much like Jeremy Bulloch's rendition as possible. I would be okay with a redubbing if he had actually tried to sound menacing!

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Considering Lucas' stance on artist's rights, he would've been involved. The whole point of Lucas' career was to be independent of Hollywood after his experiences on THX. No damn way he lets others change his films just because he sold the company....unless he REALLY is done with the whole STAR WARS thing and doesn't care.

I really do think Lucas is done with Star Wars. If the UOT ever does get released, it'll be because Lucas gave Disney his blessing/the rights at the time of the sale to do whatever they want with releasing it. I just don't see him coming back to SW for the release of what he sees as inferior versions of those three movies unless he wants some kind of redemption in the eyes of the fans by saying it was his decision to finally give them what they want.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I really do think Lucas is done with Star Wars. If the UOT ever does get released, it'll be because Lucas gave Disney his blessing/the rights at the time of the sale to do whatever they want with releasing it. I just don't see him coming back to SW for the release of what he sees as inferior versions of those three movies unless he wants some kind of redemption in the eyes of the fans by saying it was his decision to finally give them what they want.

If he wanted redemption, he'd done this years ago on DVD. This guy always does what he wants. I love him for that. I don't see him relinquishing control over the films he's made, even with the sale of the company.

Unless he has completely and utterly washed his hands of his creation, which would be sad in my eyes.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

This thread just keeps going round and round

As do you commenting on the fact. It's like you are the cause of a paradox!

[Ernest Rister]

Just throwing this out there...if this is an SE/OT hybrid version as Faraci suggests, it might explain the new 2015 copyright for A New Hope.

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Just throwing this out there...if this is an SE/OT hybrid version as Faraci suggests, it might explain the new 2015 copyright for A New Hope.

Wouldn't that also be explained by this being the first digital copy released?

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

If he wanted redemption, he'd done this years ago on DVD. This guy always does what he wants. I love him for that. I don't see him relinquishing control over the films he's made, even with the sale of the company.

Unless he has completely and utterly washed his hands of his creation, which would be sad in my eyes.

I've been a Lucas supporter too; he may have been and still be resilient to the idea of releasing the UOT, but I wouldn't be surprised to read a headline in 5-10 years' time that Lucas has finally been persuaded to release the UOT, even if it's begrudgingly. And even if he has finally walked away from SW, I don't blame him; all the vitriol he got for the special editions and prequels from "fans" would make anyone wanna just move on to something else. Gotta love how he didn't even keep the money from the Disney sale. It's unfortunate that he doesn't have anything to do with the new movies, even in terms of story outline; that's pretty much why I consider all these upcoming movies/spinoffs/TV shows nothing more than fan fiction. For me, Star Wars will always be Eps. I-VI and maybe the old Clone Wars 2D miniseries, for better or worse.

[Jumpman]

Do the other trailers have 2015 copyright logos as well?

[Merlinpants]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Do the other trailers have 2015 copyright logos as well?

Yes they do. Must be copyright for digital copy.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I've been a Lucas supporter too; he may have been and still be resilient to the idea of releasing the UOT, but I wouldn't be surprised to read a headline in 5-10 years' time that Lucas has finally been persuaded to release the UOT, even if it's begrudgingly. And even if he has finally walked away from SW, I don't blame him; all the vitriol he got for the special editions and prequels from "fans" would make anyone wanna just move on to something else. Gotta love how he didn't even keep the money from the Disney sale. It's unfortunate that he doesn't have anything to do with the new movies, even in terms of story outline; that's pretty much why I consider all these upcoming movies/spinoffs/TV shows nothing more than fan fiction. For me, Star Wars will always be Eps. I-VI and maybe the old Clone Wars 2D miniseries, for better or worse.

Agree with everything you said, especially about the new Disney Star Wars we're about to be bombarded with for the next decade...

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

If he wanted redemption, he'd done this years ago on DVD. This guy always does what he wants. I love him for that. I don't see him relinquishing control over the films he's made, even with the sale of the company.

But Jump...that's the very definition of relinquishing control. Disney gave him $2 billion in cash and $2 billion in Disney stock.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

But Jump...that's the very definition of relinquishing control. Disney gave him $2 billion in cash and $2 billion in Disney stock.

And he would let them recut his films as they see fit? I just don't see it, considering him MO over the years on this very issue.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

And he would let them recut his films as they see fit? I just don't see it, considering him MO over the years on this very issue.

He couldn't stop them if they wanted to, but Hollywood is a relationship business, and that's Iger's greatest strength -- relationships with talent. Disney somehow mangling Star Wars would cost them opportunities with other creatives. Lucas himself said the Greedo change was a mistake, so I wouldn't assume he's against it.

And doesn't Yoda counsel Anakin about the dangers of control and the virtue of letting go of what you fear to lose? This might have been on Mr. Lucas' mind for a while.

[Falaskan]

They wouldn't really have to go back to the original elements, if all they did was take out Greedo firing, they'd just have to remove a few frames. Technically it would still be the "special edition" with a few less frames than before. haha. That would be a smart move for them...

[octagon]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

I've been a Lucas supporter too; he may have been and still be resilient to the idea of releasing the UOT, but I wouldn't be surprised to read a headline in 5-10 years' time that Lucas has finally been persuaded to release the UOT, even if it's begrudgingly.

Two things...

A year or two before retiring GL had started walking back some of his 'inferior versions' rhetoric. In some interview or another (well after the BD release, I believe) he talked about the 'classic' versions and said restoring them was in the pipe somewhere but that it was really expensive and the release versions took priority.

In all likelihood Disney needn't persuade him to release the UOT because in all likelihood he has nothing to say about it anymore. Is it possible there are all sorts of 'we have to get GL's okay before we do this, that or the other thing' clause buried in the contracts? Sure, but it seems more likely that Disney paid almost five billion dollars for unencumbered properties.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Doesn't Yoda counsel Anakin about the dangers of control and the virtue of letting go of what you fear to lose? This might have been on Mr. Lucas' mind for a while.

Touche...

Also, this link....http://www.slashfilm.com/han-shot-fi...ital-editions/

Apparently, this was suppose to be a surprise...if true! What other surprises (if true) does this release have in store?

[seannyd]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

And he would let them recut his films as they see fit? I just don't see it, considering him MO over the years on this very issue.

They're not his films anymore, though. He sold them.

I just don't see how there would be a stipulation that the cuts as they are must be the same forever.

And I don't think anyone ever had any issue with him messing with the films that much, just his reluctance to release them as they came out in the theaters originally. If he wanted to replace Chewbacca with Cookie Monster, that's his prerogative, but it shouldn't negate the version that everyone fell in love with. I think that's where the vitriol came from.

Of course, I never shared the same vitriol and never understood how people could treat a man with such derision who created this thing that they loved so much. I just don't think it's fair to him.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by octagon

Two things...

A year or two before retiring GL had started walking back some of his 'inferior versions' rhetoric. In some interview or another (well after the BD release, I believe) he talked about the 'classic' versions and said restoring them was in the pipe somewhere but that it was really expensive and the release versions took priority.

In all likelihood Disney needn't persuade him to release the UOT because in all likelihood he has nothing to say about it anymore. Is it possible there are all sorts of 'we have to get GL's okay before we do this, that or the other thing' clause buried in the contracts? Sure, but it seems more likely that Disney paid almost five billion dollars for unencumbered properties.

Considering the fact that Lucas never wanted to pay for these and how much Disney has been raking in the last few year, it wouldn't shock me if we found out that Disney footed the bill to restore the theatrical cuts.

It just depends if Disney thinks it's worth it, in terms of profit. I don't think so but what do I know?

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by octagon

Two things...

A year or two before retiring GL had started walking back some of his 'inferior versions' rhetoric. In some interview or another (well after the BD release, I believe) he talked about the 'classic' versions and said restoring them was in the pipe somewhere but that it was really expensive and the release versions took priority.

In all likelihood Disney needn't persuade him to release the UOT because in all likelihood he has nothing to say about it anymore. Is it possible there are all sorts of 'we have to get GL's okay before we do this, that or the other thing' clause buried in the contracts? Sure, but it seems more likely that Disney paid almost five billion dollars for unencumbered properties.

Didn't know about him backtracking on his previous sentiments. That certainly bodes well. And yet, I'm not holding my breath. I'm one of those damn millenials that grew up on the 1997/2004 versions of the OT, so I'm happy with my DVDs until the unaltered versions finally get the release they deserve. If Disney really does have the authority to release the UOT whenever it wants, it makes sense for them to do it on an anniversary (2017) or after the new trilogy is done (2020?); either way, I don't see it happening this year or next.