Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

If Disney releases the restored UOT next year, I bet it would only be released on BD initially (even if they are jumping into UHD BD) as this trilogy is too good for them not to double dip on. I mean they waited for some time before releasing the 3D version of TFA.

It almost NEEDS to be a 4k set. If it's the uot on standard Blu-ray there are going to be a bunch of ppl thinking it's just the same discs as before. A 4K release could change that.


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[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

It almost NEEDS to be a 4k set. If it's the uot on standard Blu-ray there are going to be a bunch of ppl thinking it's just the same discs as before. A 4K release could change that.


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People aren't that dumb.

Studios traditionally have not released such big guns early on in a new format. With a year into UHD BD, that seems to still be the case.

All they have to say is something like, "For the first time ever, restored in 4K as originally seen, blah, blah," and the social media outlets and sites will be talking about this like no tomorrow. It will be HUGE news and EVERYONE will know this is something different that the crap released in 2011.

And then, several years later they will release UHD BD. Disney is not going to blow their entire wad on the original restored trilogy on the first release. I would not be surprised to see 3D versions of these released at some point before the UHD BD.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Harmy's versions far closer mirror the originals compared to the rushed, sloppy, antiquated masters stamped with a worthless THX label.

Yep. Space is brown & grey, white Hoth.

If they are going to release these approximating the original color timing, there really should be no blue because there is no evidence it existed.

How many times do I have to repeat it?
Hoth is blue in the screen stills (NOT publicity stills) in the magazine!
"No evidence" my foot.

[Bobbyjoe766]

If the original,unaltered version of STAR WARS (1977) does get a theatrical re-release,will it be presented with original audio too?

[captveg]

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

There's a possibility they may do one film at at a time. If there's a remastered 4K Star Wars perhaps it will get a theatrical release next year and/or a video/digital release. It may even be done to tie in the release of Episode VIII. IMO that's a more plausible theory since we haven't gotten an official announcement yet. Then they might do Empire and Jedi separately as well either to tie in with IX or one of their spin off movies or both!

I wouldn't be surprised if they staggered the releases over three years, either.

Star Wars: A New Hope deluxe release with both original and 2011 SE versions (same packaging style as TFA 3D) in Fall 2017 for 40th Anniversary / Episode VIII promo.

Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back release in same style in Fall 2018 as a companion release to the Han Solo movie video release (buy the original Han/Lando movie at the same time you buy the prequel Han/Lando movie!)

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi release in same style in Fall 2019 as a companion release to the Episode IX home video release (Complete the original trilogy when you complete the sequel trilogy!)

Then they can do the three PT in the three subsequent years.

They're gonna take some serious shelf space, but those deluxe packaging releases are gonna look sweet on the shelf.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

As I've been saying over and over for a while now: 2017 is the 40th anniversary. Disney/LFL would be insane to miss out on such an opportunity for a restored re-release.

I've always agreed with the 40th anniversary stance, the only quibble with it is because we're treated to so much Star Wars each year, Lucasfilm might not see a right spot for a home video or limited theatrical run. If we don't see anything before the trailer drops for Episode VIII, then I don't think it's going to happen.

So my guess is we'll see something alongside Rogue One's home video release. It would be a fantastic opportunity to show off A New Hope in theatres after Rogue One drops on home video. You never know they might rerelease Rogue One in theatres as a limited double-bill, then release both titles on home video.

I wouldn't be surprised if A New Hope's restoration (along with Rogue One) and release were very much always on Lucasfilm's agenda for 2017, they just tie together so well.

If Star Wars was a MCU movie, which basically get the spotlight throughout the year, Marvel probably wouldn't see a slot to fit in a rerelease, it would take too much thunder from it's upcoming projects. But there is a small window with Star Wars.

[Josh5890]

I try not to get my hopes up as far as seeing the original version of A New Hope getting released again.

[Nailwraps]

A clue!?!?:
http://geektyrant.com/news/theres-a-...ed-in-theaters

Incidentally, Fox deserves a mention too. They co-own, co-produced, and co-financed IV. I'm tired of seeing Episode IV related and not seeing a mention of Fox.

[Brown]

While changing channels over the weekend I ran into A New Hope, aka Star Wars, on one of the big cable stations.

I hadn't seen it in a while, but I couldn't stay with it. Thirty seconds of driving into Mos Eisley was crushing. Looking at all the added digital garbage was like seeing a classic sports car covered with tacky bumper stickers.

It's probably better not to have grown up with the original in your head.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

A clue!?!?:
http://geektyrant.com/news/theres-a-...ed-in-theaters

We know: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...9#post13016139

Incidentally, Fox deserves a mention too. They co-own, co-produced, and co-financed IV. I'm tired of seeing Episode IV related and not seeing a mention of Fox.

Yes, they produced and financed the picture back in the day. But the rights to the ownership of the movie - as in the intellectual property itself - were horse-traded with LFL during negotations for Fox to distribute the prequels, with Fox shrewdly retaining perpetual distribution rights to ANH but nothing more. That's all folks.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

Incidentally, Fox deserves a mention too. They co-own, co-produced, and co-financed IV. I'm tired of seeing Episode IV related and not seeing a mention of Fox.

Well, that depends. If you're talking about the place Star Wars in film or cultural history then sure, Fox definitely played a part.

But anything moving forward? New masters, new theatrical releases, new home video releases, any UOT news...beyond distribution Fox isn't really part of any of those conversations anymore.

[Class316]

Originally Posted by Brown

While changing channels over the weekend I ran into A New Hope, aka Star Wars, on one of the big cable stations.

I hadn't seen it in a while, but I couldn't stay with it. Thirty seconds of driving into Mos Eisley was crushing. Looking at all the added digital garbage was like seeing a classic sports car covered with tacky bumper stickers.

It's probably better not to have grown up with the original in your head.

At least the semi specialized edition removes all that crap.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by octagon

Well, that depends. If you're talking about the place Star Wars in film or cultural history then sure, Fox definitely played a part.

I think that was more Alan Ladd, Jr. than Fox. He convinced the president of Fox to be hands off and Ladd ran interference with the Fox board of directors which was critical for Lucas to achieve his vision. Remember this was the same studio convinced Damnation Alley was going to be their blockbuster sci-fi event of 1977...and signed over merchandising rights to SW to Lucas because it seemed worthless to them.

Biggest. Mistake. Ever.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Biggest. Mistake. Ever.

In hindsight it was, but you could probably only go back a few months from Star Wars' release, where all the sound effects were yet to be added and you would have bet your shirt on it been a total disaster. Talent played a huge part on the end result, but there was a lot of kismet too, I think without John Williams and Ben Burtt it would have played completely different.

You can't blame Laddie for letting those rights go, they were called garbage rights for a reason. I think Planet of the Apes might have given some indication on how merchandising was changing, but before then it was probably only the Bond franchise that brought in any serious money.

And it was pretty much goodwill on the fans part that made the merchandizing a success. I can't imagine how receiving IOUs for action figures would play today with social media (although I guess it was the ultimate pre-order).

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I think that was more Alan Ladd, Jr. than Fox. He convinced the president of Fox to be hands off and Ladd ran interference with the Fox board of directors which was critical for Lucas to achieve his vision. Remember this was the same studio convinced Damnation Alley was going to be their blockbuster sci-fi event of 1977...and signed over merchandising rights to SW to Lucas because it seemed worthless to them.

Biggest. Mistake. Ever.

Well, people keep going about the merch being this amazingly dunderheaded decision but that stuff simply wasn't as huge then as it is now. Yes, there WERE merchandising tie-ins for movies prior to Star Wars but nothing on that sort of scale and nothing so kid-friendly as the reams of ships and aliens and characters that were ripe for exploitation in Star Wars. Fox didn't know, how could they unless they had a ****ing time machine? Hell, Universal had a contractual first look at Star Wars after the success of Graffiti but Ned Tanen turned it down, so pretty much everybody apart from Laddie came out of that looking like an idiot.

And besides, the story goes that Fox offered Lucas a lowball starting figure to direct the film, expecting it to rise during negotiations, but when he said he'd accept it in exchange for the merchandising rights Fox couldn't believe their luck - thinking them to be virtually worthless - so they gave them to him, although not without any concessions (as with the later prequel negotiations). Lucas initially got only 60% of the merch which gradually rose to the full monty by 1979, so Fox still made plenty of bank in those first two years off of the merchandising.

[Nailwraps]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

I think that was more Alan Ladd, Jr. than Fox. He convinced the president of Fox to be hands off and Ladd ran interference with the Fox board of directors which was critical for Lucas to achieve his vision. Remember this was the same studio convinced Damnation Alley was going to be their blockbuster sci-fi event of 1977...and signed over merchandising rights to SW to Lucas because it seemed worthless to them.

Biggest. Mistake. Ever.

I though it was Doctor Dolittle that caused it.

*sigh* Not a day goes by when I wonder what would have it been, if Fox had full control of Star Wars...


Anyway, Fox co-owns IV, they always deserve a mention including anything forward.

[happydood]

Originally Posted by Nailwraps

I though it was Doctor Dolittle that caused it.

*sigh* Not a day goes by when I wonder what would have it been, if Fox had full control of Star Wars...


Anyway, Fox co-owns IV, they always deserve a mention including anything forward.

This blows my mind. I'll take the horrible dialogue, bad CGI, bad acting, annoying characters, and handmade charm of everything Lucas touched over Rogue One any day.

[bobbyh64]

Do most people here who want the original version of Star Wars to be released care whether or not the "Episode 4 - A New Hope" subtitle is added? I personally don't care. And then I started to wonder, what if the 1997 changes actually happened in 1981 when the film was re-released? Would people who saw it when it was first released still want the original or would they prefer the changes?

[Galactus123]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Do most people here who want the original version of Star Wars to be released care whether or not the "Episode 4 - A New Hope" subtitle is added? I personally don't care. And then I started to wonder, what if the 1997 changes actually happened in 1981 when the film was re-released? Would people who saw it when it was first released still want the original or would they prefer the changes?

I hope they release the originals without any changes. No Episode IV A New Hope text and the old Lucasfulm Ltd logo would be great too.

[Zillamon51]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Do most people here who want the original version of Star Wars to be released care whether or not the "Episode 4 - A New Hope" subtitle is added? ...

A prefer "A New Hope," as well as several other changes throughout the trilogy. But the point of releasing the original is releasing what was seen in theaters on opening day. I hope there are eventually two versions released: The UOT, sans any changes, and the most recent SEs, reflecting authorial preference.

(I'd actually like a "Choose Your Own Adventure" option, where you can cherry pick your own custom version from all the various alternate scenes, but I don't actually expect anything like that.)