Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Class316]

I agree most ESB Changes are good, but the voice of Boba change is the "Han shot first" of ESB

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

The 6 films don't make sense in their unaltered form. When I see Shaw after seeing the prequels, I think...who is that old dude? When you see him behind the mask it is forgiveable because most of his face is blocked.

Huh? You're saying when you watch Return of the Jedi you can't tell that the old guy in ghost form is also the guy under the Vader mask? Looks the same to me. I don't know why you think most of his face is blocked. All that's really blocked is his chin, which is hardly anything.

What is more believable than you saying "Who is that old dude?" is Luke saying "Who the hell is that young dude?"

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by Class316

I agree most ESB Changes are good, but the voice of Boba change is the "Han shot first" of ESB

Changing " bring my shuttle " and changing Yoda's sinister music are the worst for me.

[balthazar_bee]

Originally Posted by Shin sam

Changing " bring my shuttle " and changing Yoda's sinister music are the worst for me.

Oh yeah! Right after Yoda says, "You will be," there used to be that awesome shrill cue cutting to the star destroyer in the asteroid field.

Now it's like, "You will be," and sound-wise, the ground drops out beneath your feet. As a result, the lolwut face on Luke seems completely inappropriate (and even...a little funny?) without Williams working his magic there.

[Arawn]

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

And plus, new fan or not, Hayden just looks out of place when placed next to the other two spirits who still appear in their advanced age even in spirit form.

One of these things is not like the others.

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

He says 'Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough'. When was this established in ROTS??

Well, he also says Vader "betrayed and murdered" Anakin, so...

I mean, at that point switching gears and telling the truth about the lightsaber would have been kind of weird, wouldn't it?

"Your father dropped this on a lava bank after I sliced off his arm and both legs and left his burning ass there to die. But, you know, Vader totally murdered him. Want some pancakes?"

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Oh yeah! Right after Yoda says, "You will be," there used to be that awesome shrill cue cutting to the star destroyer in the asteroid field.

Now it's like, "You will be," and sound-wise, the ground drops out beneath your feet. As a result, the lolwut face on Luke seems completely inappropriate (and even...a little funny?) without Williams working his magic there.

As a kid I loved that, it gave Yoda an edge. Like there was a hint of the dark side with him. When I watched the Special Editions in the cinema in 97' it stuck out like sore thumb. Hate it.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Oh yeah! Right after Yoda says, "You will be," there used to be that awesome shrill cue cutting to the star destroyer in the asteroid field.

Now it's like, "You will be," and sound-wise, the ground drops out beneath your feet. As a result, the lolwut face on Luke seems completely inappropriate (and even...a little funny?) without Williams working his magic there.

I noticed that a couple years ago as well. I just checked the original cut and then BD cut and it does stick out like a sore thumb.

[GasmaskAvenger]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Hayden Force Ghost - in concept - doesn't bother me. In fact, as a Catholic, I find it very moving. Could it have better execution? Sure. Jeez, maybe even a close up. Whatever. The world turns.

I'm fine with the Hayden Force Ghost too.

That being said, we should've gotten an Ewan McGregor force ghost as well if that's the direction Lucas decided to go with regarding force ghosts. Don't half-ass it, go all the way.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by balthazar_bee

Oh yeah! Right after Yoda says, "You will be," there used to be that awesome shrill cue cutting to the star destroyer in the asteroid field.

Now it's like, "You will be," and sound-wise, the ground drops out beneath your feet. As a result, the lolwut face on Luke seems completely inappropriate (and even...a little funny?) without Williams working his magic there.

I never noticed that...

[Shin sam]

Originally Posted by DJR662

I never noticed that...

It's the biggest change in Empire for me. Jarring as hell.

[Galactus123]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

The point is that you are expecting a younger audience to connect with a completely unrelated character. People need to use their imagination. Pretend just for second that you didn't see it unaltered. Now think if you saw Hadyn for all those films and now all of a sudden you have some old guy that you never saw before. Sure it might sorta work, but not as much as the Haydn ghost that directly harkens back to his happier time (complete with creepy look down).

It was Lucas's mistake to make him so young in the prequels. It's not OT's fault. One thing that feels a bit odd is that Sebastian Shawn is older than Alec Guinnes but Obi-Wan says that Anakin was a young pupil of his.

[Class316]

Didn't know about the Yoda music change. Damn.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

They're sitting right behind me. Laserdisc player is in the living room, connected to my 7.1 system. "Good luck with that". Don't need any luck.

Don't LDs look like total crap in today's TVs?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Class316

Didn't know about the Yoda music change. Damn.



Don't LDs look like total crap in today's TVs?

I can take screen caps of the LD transfers if you want.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by Class316

Don't LDs look like total crap in today's TVs?

It's allll about screen size, in my opinion. Those 4x3 letterboxed laserdisc transfers provided as "extras" on the 2006 dvd releases... they look great on the 32-inch TV in my living room, but are pretty much unwatchable on the 92-inch projector screen in my home theater -- and that's with an Oppo blu-ray player, which is widely considered the best dvd up-scaler around.

For years I tried to pretend it didn't bother me, but then I finally caved and procured blu-rays of the Despecialized Editions. Even those have their issues, since they dip in and out of different sources, including (when necessary) those same laserdisc transfers. It can be pretty distracting while watching on that 92-inch screen.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Class316

Don't LDs look like total crap in today's TVs?

Compared to old VHS tapes, no. Compared to HD content, yes. I have some Disney archival documentary content on LD you can't view any other way, and they always already looked rough, so it's not really an issue for me.

[Class316]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Compared to old VHS tapes, no. Compared to HD content, yes. I have some Disney archival documentary content on LD you can't view any other way, and they always already looked rough, so it's not really an issue for me.

I would hope they look good compared to VHS.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Class316

I would hope they look good compared to VHS.

Here's some from A New Hope:

[imsounoriginal]

Those caps actually look pretty good but it might be because of how small they are. But now I feel like watching my LE DVD lol

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Those caps actually look pretty good but it might be because of how small they are. But now I feel like watching my LE DVD lol

I'll post some for ESB and ROTJ shortly.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Those caps actually look pretty good but it might be because of how small they are.

That's what she...wait...