Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Stanis

Heck, half the audio commentaries for my favorite movies the director starts off by saying "well this should be good, I haven't watched this in 10 years..." which boggles my mind

Artists are often their own worst critics, whether its actors, composers, directors, etc. Many have said they need a lot of time to separate themselves emotionally from the actual experience of making their film, so they can better enjoy it as a viewer. We see the final result, but they have a ton of memories most of us will never experience.

[ElvisForever]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

The Prequels suck, George Lucas didn't rape your childhood, the BDs look and sound like crap and we are never getting the UOT. Now you are all caught up.

You forgot about more posters complaining about wading through those comments that don't agree with it all!

[ElvisForever]

One day there will be an ultimate archive edition which will have every version available in a mix and match and you can choose your own version to watch.

From article.

I wonder if it already exists.

[Rodney-2187]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

From article.

I wonder if it already exists.

Meanwhile, at Disney/Lucasfilm:

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[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Artists are often their own worst critics, whether its actors, composers, directors, etc. Many have said they need a lot of time to separate themselves emotionally from the actual experience of making their film, so they can better enjoy it as a viewer. We see the final result, but they have a ton of memories most of us will never experience.

Yeah. And (following on from my comment up there ^) the ones that DO want to revisit their work are the ones who incessantly tinker (your Manns, your Lucases) and cause the fans no end of consternation because they simply can't say to themselves "Indiana...let it go".

[ElvisForever]

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

Meanwhile, at Disney/Lucasfilm:

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I was being sarcastic.

But yes there is more in hiding.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yeah. And (following on from my comment up there ^) the ones that DO want to revisit their work are the ones who incessantly tinker (your Manns, your Lucases) and cause the fans no end of consternation because they simply can't say to themselves "Indiana...let it go".

Mr. Miyagi - Balance - YouTube

[Alan_Grant]

Originally Posted by Caseyscott

I don't know who specifically had input in the recent installments, but from what's been posted on this forum it seems like creative decisions are being based on satisfying the largest variety of demographic both domestically and worldwide (the four quadrant approach etc.,) whereas there was a distinctly different source of creative traction in the original trilogy.

Yep. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying nobody was ever out to NOT take advantage of SW being a money-machine, that's what Hollywood is. That being said, they were trying to tell stories, about the rise and fall of a human being, the rise of an evil tyrant who runs a fascist empire. These new movies have...uhh....well, there's nostalgia, and it's like the OT. So...congrats? I guess?

[Ernest Rister]

I was a lowly grunt for Sony Imageworks, and I've only seen the completed films I worked on once or twice. You move on to your next job, that's your priority, you really don't have time to look back. Plus, you were there, you already saw the shots a billion times. Sun comes up, wife needs coffee, you have things to do...hey...here is something important. I post a lot of glib nonsense, because that's me, I'm a goofball...but here is something important...

Who you are is not your job. You are not your job. Your life is not your job. Directing a movie, acting in a movie, writing a movie (or game or what have you) -- that's not your life. It's something you do while living your life. Never, ever get that backwards, because that is a gruesome horrible path to walk, and there's no light at the end of that tunnel. I've witnessed so many people get into the arts for the wrong reasons (insecurity and need for validation and applause, etc.), and when they achieve some fame, they wake up the next day, the only thing that's changed is that they're temporarily known, but their life hasn't changed. They still have the same issues. They made it to the end of the rainbow, but it didn't miracle away anything, they wake up to just another day. People are surprised by, say, celebrity deaths from drug abuse...fame is an empty drug, and eventually, you can't even buy the empty drug. What they thought was going to fill the hole turns out to only dig the hole deeper. You have to be grounded. Working in the entertainment industry is a job. It is not your life. No job should be your life. Family, friends, community, faith. That's your life.

[Geoff D]

You are Dominic Toretto and I claim my five pounds.

[Amano]

Originally Posted by ElvisForever

The point was that Lucas always fiddled with the movies in one way or another, and when he got more money, he did more changes.

You are right. He has got 4 billion dollars on his bank account now. And for every single dollar his “final vision of the day“ got worse.

I guess guess that's the benefit of massive amounts of money: For showing the world the middle finger somebody will always step up to glorify the turd.

[Ben Reilly]

Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

This is the biggest pain in the ass thread to read on the entire forum. Even when I skip to the last page I still can't be bothered to wade through it all.

Originally Posted by stvn1974

The Prequels rock, George Lucas didn't rape your childhood, the BDs look and sound like crap and we are never getting the UOT. Now you are all caught up.

slightly edit

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Amano

You are right. He has got 4 billion dollars on his bank account now. And for every single dollar his “final vision of the day“ got worse.

I thought he donated that money to educational charity.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Mefan101

The Blu Rays look fine on my TV. (Though I wish I had the money to get my TV calibrated). If only I had a soundbar, and a subwoofer to go with it. However, my family and I are moving to an apartment soon, so having a sound system would be unwise.

I live in a relatively small two bedroom apartment and I have a sound system. The front left and right are my floor-standing hi-fi speakers that I always had. The center channel sits under the TV. The left and right surrounds are bookshelf speakers on stands and sit on either side of the couch. And I have a subwoofer that sits hidden in a corner, although I only turn it on when watching a popcorn movie before 10pm.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I was a lowly grunt for Sony Imageworks, and I've only seen the completed films I worked on once or twice. You move on to your next job, that's your priority, you really don't have time to look back. Plus, you were there, you already saw the shots a billion times. Sun comes up, wife needs coffee, you have things to do...hey...here is something important. I post a lot of glib nonsense, because that's me, I'm a goofball...but here is something important...

Who you are is not your job. You are not your job. Your life is not your job. Directing a movie, acting in a movie, writing a movie (or game or what have you) -- that's not your life. It's something you do while living your life. Never, ever get that backwards, because that is a gruesome horrible path to walk, and there's no light at the end of that tunnel. I've witnessed so many people get into the arts for the wrong reasons (insecurity and need for validation and applause, etc.), and when they achieve some fame, they wake up the next day, the only thing that's changed is that they're temporarily known, but their life hasn't changed. They still have the same issues. They made it to the end of the rainbow, but it didn't miracle away anything, they wake up to just another day. People are surprised by, say, celebrity deaths from drug abuse...fame is an empty drug, and eventually, you can't even buy the empty drug. What they thought was going to fill the hole turns out to only dig the hole deeper. You have to be grounded. Working in the entertainment industry is a job. It is not your life. No job should be your life. Family, friends, community, faith. That's your life.

There's no one path for everyone. Certainly, many people put everything into their job and shouldn't. But for other people, especially for artists, their career sometimes is indeed their life. And even if they sacrifice other parts of their life for their career (or more accurately, for their art), sometimes, that's what greatness takes because one can only focus on so much. Picasso and Einstein were both lousy at relationships and treated their wives badly. So did John Lennon. Steve Jobs didn't even initially want to recognize his own daughter. Etc. If these people were totally "grounded", it's very possible they would never have achieved greatness.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Stanis

Heck, half the audio commentaries for my favorite movies the director starts off by saying "well this should be good, I haven't watched this in 10 years..." which boggles my mind

Well sometimes that's a lie (they're really all Norma Desmonds), but sometimes it's real. Do you know how many times a director has viewed a film during its production? Between the shooting, dailies, editing, mixing, color grading, etc., it's thousands of times. Most of the time, you never want to see it again, partially because it now bores you to death and sometimes because you are forced to remember the flaws.

I was an audio engineer and I produced thousands of hours of audio. I can't bare to listen to any of it.

And even though I do collect BD's, half the time I don't even want to watch any of them. For most films, 2-3 times in a lifetime is enough.

[Ben Reilly]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I thought he donated that money to educational charity.

He may have donated it, but it is nothing more than a tax write-off.
All donations are.
Which is really stupid cause it isn't really a donation then!

[Alan_Grant]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I thought he donated that money to educational charity.

Hey!!! He did something nice!!! It doesn't matter because he edited the movies!!! He's....a hack??? My butthole still hurts from teh rapeage


Yeah, he did. But people seem to be angry about him donating money to a charity because...edits to movies?

[shinobipopcorn]

Can the internet please find a new way to describe ruining something instead of using the term "rape"? People who have actually been sexually assaulted don't find that use funny.

[Alan_Grant]

Oh, I'm making fun of those who use the term. I personally don't find it suitable for use when discussing something I don't like.