Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[bobbyh64]

Just watched Star Wars 4K77 for the first time. What an amazing site to behold! Love how good it looks in all its grainy glory.

[The Fallen Deity]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Rogue One is a real grower and the best SW movie after the OT. It also looks and feels very similar to the OT.

I agree. It's definitely the best Star Wars film Disney have made so far imo.

I'd love to see the original cut before all the re-shoots happened. Just to see what it was like initially.

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

Rogue One is a real grower and the best SW movie after the OT. It also looks and feels very similar to the OT.

It's a terrific movie, but it really looks very little like Episodes IV-VI from a photographic standpoint. From a design perspective, yes it looks very similar because they're from the same timeline as Episodes IV-VI, but just looking at how Rogue One is shot compared to Episode IV, they largely look very little alike.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by CreasyBear

It's a terrific movie, but it really looks very little like Episodes IV-VI from a photographic standpoint. From a design perspective, yes it looks very similar because they're from the same timeline as Episodes IV-VI, but just looking at how Rogue One is shot compared to Episode IV, they largely look very little alike.

You are right. Stylistically (meaning cinematography and editing) they have little in common. But from a production design point of view, they are very similar.

[BladeRunner2007]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

I agree. It's definitely the best Star Wars film Disney have made so far imo.

I'd love to see the original cut before all the re-shoots happened. Just to see what it was like initially.

Me too. But I believe this was there rare case where the reshoots actually enhanced the movie. Just like in The Fog (1980).

[jayman3]

Originally Posted by 2sday

I've always considered only two viewing orders:

For someone that has never seen them: RELEASE ORDER
This makes sense from a historical standpoint.

For someone that hasseen them: CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER
This makes sense from a canonical standpoint.

Everything else just seems silly or different for the sake of being different.

Agreed. One should never introduce a person who's new to Star Wars by watching the prequels first. That'll only make them hate Star Wars.

However, I've known people who's first Star Wars movies they seen were the prequels in theaters and they love them over the originals.

Everyone is different.

Though, curious to know you didn't include the Machete Order. I don't think it is silly. Watching in that style retains the "reveals" of the original trilogy, and with V's cliffhanger, taking a break to get some prequel backstory makes Return of the Jedi a much more emotional climax.

[spudeus]

Originally Posted by The Fallen Deity

I agree. It's definitely the best Star Wars film Disney have made so far imo.

I think Rogue has the best space battle of any entry to date. The creepy CG simulacrums of Cushing and Fisher should have hit the cutting room floor, but I'd agree - overall the best Disney has produced.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by jayman3

However, I've known people who's first Star Wars movies they seen were the prequels in theaters and they love them over the originals.

I watched the OT first and I still love the PT over the OT.

All this irrational hatred of the PT is only a sign the dark side is surging within you....

[GaS]

Rogue One is boring shight.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

You are right. Stylistically (meaning cinematography and editing) they have little in common. But from a production design point of view, they are very similar.

The photography isn't identical, no, but it's much closer in spirit to the originals than the anodyne digital look of the prequels, TPM included with that DNR pass that's got rid of the film grain on the Blu-ray.

Just as RO is this wonderful bridge between the PT and OT in terms of its story and its aesthetic style the same is true of the photography: shooting anamorphic (albeit with 1.25x glass than 2x) on large format digital with a film LUT applied gives it a similar kind of rounded richness and texture and shallow depth of field but with the stability and detail of digital. It looks so good.

And with all those VFX being so seamless it's perhaps the ultimate realisation of Lucas' digital dream, not that he'd do it this way necessarily (Lucas wanting to emulate film? lolno) but that it's a terrific marriage of the practical and the digital to create this movie that links both worlds. Love me some RO.

[nodeerforamonth]

Originally Posted by GaS

Rogue One is boring shight.

Fake news.

This is all off topic though. Non of the posts in the past 5 pages have anything to do with the blu rays of the first 6 movies released a decade ago.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by nodeerforamonth

Fake news.

This is all off topic though. Non of the posts in the past 5 pages have anything to do with the blu rays of the first 6 movies released a decade ago.

These last 5 pages have also been the most civil and truly fan-driven STAR WARS discussions that I've had the pleasure of being a part of on these forums for a long, long time -- that is, right up until the "ROGUE ONE is shight" nonsense.

[BluBonnet]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

These last 5 pages have also been the most civil and truly fan-driven STAR WARS discussions that I've had the pleasure of being a part of on these forums for a long, long time -- that is, right up until the "ROGUE ONE is shight" nonsense.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by jayman3

Agreed. One should never introduce a person who's new to Star Wars by watching the prequels first. That'll only make them hate Star Wars.

However, I've known people who's first Star Wars movies they seen were the prequels in theaters and they love them over the originals.

Everyone is different.

Though, curious to know you didn't include the Machete Order. I don't think it is silly. Watching in that style retains the "reveals" of the original trilogy, and with V's cliffhanger, taking a break to get some prequel backstory makes Return of the Jedi a much more emotional climax.

Isn’t the sister reveal in ROTJ spoiled though?

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Isn’t the sister reveal in ROTJ spoiled though?

Yeah, but that's a silly one.

[chewbabka]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Isn’t the sister reveal in ROTJ spoiled though?

It is now dammit... guess I won’t bother watching that one.

[rexcrk]

I need to watch Rogue One again. Last time I watched it was shortly before The Last Jedi came out, which is a rarity for me lol. Star Wars movies typically get watched multiple times a year for me.

But I dunno. I was blown away with The Force Awakens, I loved it the minute I saw it, but I found Rogue One to be very underwhelming compared to it. And in addition to already not loving it since I had first seen it, it brings back a lot of unpleasant memories with an ex girlfriend so that definitely doesn’t help it either.

It’s a good movie if you like lots of action, and I do, but I also like good characters and Rogue One falls very flat with that for me. Definitely my least favorite Star Wars movie.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

I found Rogue One to be very underwhelming compared to it. And in addition to already not loving it since I had first seen it, it brings back a lot of unpleasant memories with an ex girlfriend so that definitely doesn’t help it either.

It’s a good movie if you like lots of action, and I do, but I also like good characters and Rogue One falls very flat with that for me. Definitely my least favorite Star Wars movie.

At the risk of tempting the wrath of the forum police (since ROGUE ONE is technically out of the scope of this thread)... I felt much the way you did about ROGUE ONE at first: liked but not loved it. But a few things kept bringing me back, and I loved it more 'n' more the more I saw it. Unlike probably everyone else, I actually dig the first half more than the second. The first half shows me things in the STAR WARS universe I've never seen before, whereas the second half just becomes a huge battle. It's an AWEsome battle and I love it... but it's not really anything we haven't seen. In that first half, however, we have all kinds of things that have previously only been mentioned in comics, cartoons or novels: Guardians of the Whills, talk of Kyber Crystals, warring factions within the Rebellion. All good stuff. Plus the whole planet Jedha itself is fascinating: origin planet of the Jedi? (That's a rhetorical question; I don't really want to know; I love not knowing... but it has all these huge Jedi figures carved into the desert rock.) Plus a Star Destroyer hovering over the city while guerilla warfare breaks out in the streets? Yes please.

Anyhow... it'll be interesting to see if it grows on you like it did for me. But despite all the familiar hardware and stormtroopers (all of which I love), it's definitely the NEW stuff that hooked me the most.

[Scott in UK]

Originally Posted by rexcrk

I need to watch Rogue One again.

It’s a good movie if you like lots of action, and I do, but I also like good characters and Rogue One falls very flat with that for me.

Im a fan of Rogue One and i think it's the best of what Disney/Lucasfilm have put out. Iv heard a few people complain about the characters not being developed, (altho i do feel we get to know bits about them, or enough for me) but i think the point that people are missing is that it's supposed to be about fighting for the cause or following a team do their mission so you dont need to know lots about them.

It's kind of the equivalent of if someone was sent to war in real life, they are doing it for the cause and for their country, they dont need to know beforehand anything about the people they are fighting with along side them, they are all in it together. They are strangers in some cases. They dont say, well im not fighting with or for them because i dont know them.

Another example i could give, and is the best example, is that i saw someone make the same complaint about not developed characters in a review for the movie 'United 93' That film is also about just fighting for a cause. 9/11 was about a human tragedy on a massive scale that everyone shouldn't of failed to of been touched by in some respect. You dont need to of known the people for it to of had a human impact or to of cared on some level.

So maybe Rogue One should be viewed from that perspective.



(Edit: Sorry i know it's abit self indulgent of me but im also gonna post this comment in the Rogue One thread. At the end of the day, it's where the comment belongs right )

[Gold Ranger]

The thing I love most about Rogue One is that no one is related to anyone else in the damned universe!
That's one thing I love about Star Wars 1977.
Just a bunch of random good guys and bad guys.
Then Empire had to go and start screwing everything up!

Obi-Wan and Anakin fought in the legendary Clone Wars which sounds like it took place a very long time ago.
Nope! Only 16/18 years ago...

Han doesn't know about Jedi or the Force because Vader is all that's left of that ancient religion...
Nope, Han has seen Jedi and has a terrible memory.