Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

And to fill the glass even more, didn't Lucas add the bloody shot of the cantina thug's severed arm so the film would get a PG rating?? I find it kinda interesting that shot hasn't been tinkered with yet.

I think it's because it was done in self-defence, giving what was being discussed above. It's still a gratuitous shot mind you but it also shows that you don't **** with Obi-Wan, even if he is getting on a bit.

[bobbyh64]

Maybe Lucas would be okay with the unaltered OT being released in a big box set as long as the discs were labeled “Rough Drafts” or “Half-Completed Films.”

[whiteberry]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Maybe Lucas would be okay with the unaltered OT being released in a big box set as long as the discs were labeled “Rough Drafts” or “Half-Completed Films.”

Maybe Disney could add a warning to them:
“This program is presented as originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions of the Star Wars universe.”

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Maybe Lucas would be okay with the unaltered OT being released in a big box set as long as the discs were labeled “Rough Drafts” or “Half-Completed Films.”

That would be an injustice to the history of film.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by drush9999

Funny how the most bootlegged things among fans are things not made available by legit means. The UOT, The Abyss, True Lies, The Terminator (with mono), Song of the South etc

Song of the South is available in bootleg form? I thought it was gone completely.

[Neon Rabbit]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Song of the South is available in bootleg form? I thought it was gone completely.

There are scans of prints.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by whiteberry

Maybe Disney could add a warning to them:
“This program is presented as originally created. It may contain outdated cultural depictions of the Star Wars universe.”

That so needs to be presented by Ponda Baba in subtitles with his arm in a sling

[Scottishguy]

They have shown they are more capable of including intros that explain historical context. Der Fuhrer's Face being one prominent example.

Song Of The South could have easily been given such treatment. But they found more worth banning it outright for their own image.

Of course they know The Jungle Book promotes racial segregation, but aren't concerned, because the masses aren't as aware of that.

[Blu-man08]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

A subtitle might've been nice, so we'd know.

Maklunkey is Huttese for, “K, Imma fire my pistol now. Hold still.”

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Song of the South is available in bootleg form? I thought it was gone completely.

It had home video releases in Europe/Japan and was shown in theaters during the 80s.

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

That would be an injustice to the history of film.

True, but since George has described them with those terms it might be our only hope.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Trekkie313

It had home video releases in Europe/Japan and was shown in theaters during the 80s.

We had the VHS in Britain, Laserdisc in Japan only I believe in Japan.

[bobbyh64]

Where is the obvious dummy Greedo in previous versions of the scene? I looked through all the versions and I don’t see it.

Also, in the Maclunky version, does the video freeze right when they shoot at each other? It looks like it’s frozen for a few frames.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH19...ature=youtu.be

[crissrudd4554]

The dummy is trimmed out in the new version.

[Neon Rabbit]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Where is the obvious dummy Greedo in previous versions of the scene? I looked through all the versions and I don’t see it.

Also, in the Maclunky version, does the video freeze right when they shoot at each other? It looks like it’s frozen for a few frames.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH19...ature=youtu.be

It's quite clearly noticeable if you look at it frame by frame. in motion it doesn't look as obvious. The shot of Greedo being engulfed by smoke right before the shot of his fried carcass hitting the table.

[Superjim]

Just to confirm, the digital codes included in the new Star Wars Blu-ray releases work in iTunes, correct?

[bobbyh64]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

but that's the point of the newly added dialogue, if greedo's saying "this is it for you!" or whatever then it gives Han more of a reason to get a shot off.

But we don’t even know what Greedo says because it isn’t subtitled. Maybe there’s some official translation but the average movie-goer isn’t gonna know that. For all we know Greedo hurled an insult at Han and that’s what made Han fire. It’s definitely not return fire since they shoot at the same exact time. And for someone watching it for the first time they might even think Han fired slightly before Greedo because it’s hard to know exactly when the the two shots were fired. Lucas should’ve just added a subtitle if the line translates as a threat.

I think the scene looks better than the previous specialized versions, but it’s lost all or most of the “John Wayne never shoots first” theme that Lucas “originally” intended. That idea he had was much clearer in the ‘97 version, as (mac)clunky as it was.

Another sacrilegious idea would be to remove the line “Yes, I’ll bet you have.” Just have it end on Greedo saying “I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time” and then have the shots fired. That way Greedo gets in the last word before shooting and it implies he was looking forward to killing Han.

[Allgood]

Originally Posted by Superjim

Just to confirm, the digital codes included in the new Star Wars Blu-ray releases work in iTunes, correct?

Correct. The Star Wars codes are MoviesAnywhere, it will work with iTunes, GooglePlay, VUDU, Microsoft, Verizon, etc.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

But we don’t even know what Greedo says because it isn’t subtitled. Maybe there’s some official translation but the average movie-goer isn’t gonna know that. For all we know Greedo hurled an insult at Han and that’s what made Han fire. It’s definitely not return fire since they shoot at the same exact time. And for someone watching it for the first time they might even think Han fired slightly before Greedo because it’s hard to know exactly when the the two shots were fired. Lucas should’ve just added a subtitle if the line translates as a threat.

I think the scene looks better than the previous specialized versions, but it’s lost all or most of the “John Wayne never shoots first” theme that Lucas “originally” intended. That idea he had was much clearer in the ‘97 version, as (mac)clunky as it was.

Another sacrilegious idea would be to remove the line “Yes, I’ll bet you have.” Just have it end on Greedo saying “I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time” and then have the shots fired. That way Greedo gets in the last word before shooting and it implies he was looking forward to killing Han.

When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk.

[anonymous_024]

Just when we thought Lucas is done messing with this Greedo scene, along comes this whole “McClunkey” business.

I mean, how hard can it be to trim a few frames of Han and Greedo shooting at the same time?

Lucas (being the troll that he always is) not only doesn’t do that, but actually does the opposite and adds more unnecessary footage to his so-called “preferred version” or whatever it’s called.