Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Martoto]

Originally Posted by Hatter

People going out of their way to find offense with non offensive things is why the world will forever be spinning its wheels.

Like taking offense at Lego not reusing the name given to the Kenner toy?

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Like taking offense at Lego not reusing the name given to the Kenner toy?

Nice try.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Anakin and his mother are the only identified slaves in the saga. Leia's costume is known, outside of canon, as "slave" costume.

That's it.

Like I said. All the work connecting them is being done by some fans.

You can't be serious!

First, even it were only Anakin, THAT IS FREAKING BIG since it basically lead to the entire Skywalker saga!

Second, slavery has been referenced all over the place in canon, books, TV series and movies. The Wookies were held as slaves, Chewie himself was a slave, Anakin's mother was held as a slave a second time as seen and mentioned in "AOTC", "Solo" mentioned slavers and traffickers, numerous books mention the slave trade and mentioned how some Jedi, Padme, Anakin and others were uncomfortable with how the Republic looked the other way too often and did not do enough and that it was rampant in the Outer Rim, it appeared in the canon "TCW" TV series and I think in "Rebels" TV series too, the slaves at the Spice Mine's of Kessel were mentioned in the "SW" and "Solo" and in various canon books at the very least, slavery was shown in Jabba's palace in ROTJ, etc. etc.

[WBMakeVMarsMovieNOW]

Originally Posted by Martoto

Anakin and his mother are the only identified slaves in the saga. Leia's costume is known, outside of canon, as "slave" costume.

Is it a stretch to call her costume the slave outfit? Isn't it canon that Jabba held her as a slave girl?

"With Disney's 2012 acquisition of Lucasfilm, merchandise featuring the costume ceased to be made, apparently in response to a Fox News segment in which parents described difficulties explaining toys featuring the costume (including a chain around Leia's neck) to their children. Fisher called Disney's decision "stupid," saying, "Tell [the kids] that a giant slug captured me and forced me to wear that stupid outfit, and then I killed him because I didn't like it."[24]"

[Martoto]

You're still asking me to do all the work on the likely name Boba's ship.

I shall continue doing exactly nothing and remain quite certain that nothing is as important or as close to important as just knowing its Boba's ship and that it looks cool. That way, I'm not offended or making a big horseshit to do about nothing.

You'd think that they'd renamed Roy Rogers horse to "Background Check" or "Safety Catch" the way you guys are carrying on.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Jay G.

And you still haven't answered my question: if the changing of "master/slave" to "primary/secondary", "parent/child", or some other terms was only about using something more technically accurate, would you be upset?

Because it's dumb and it won't magically change the IDE devices still marked as such in use.

Someone did suggest maybe Britney shouldn't perform that anymore, although they got a lot of pushback:
https://exhale.breatheheavy.com/foru...-matter-topic/

Yes, another white kid with the savior complex. Did you note that the song was written by a black man? I specifically referenced Pharrell Williams. He seems really Happy.

Anyway, you do understand the difference between a random piece of pop culture that people can opt to listen to or not, and technically incorrect phrases being used as standards in a technological field where anyone who wants to work in the field has to encounter/use them as part of their job, right?

You're assuming they would get triggered - and that these days they'd encounter it at all on the job with SATA and SAS and now M2/nVME the standards out there for current hardware.

[Jay G.]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Because it's dumb and it won't magically change the IDE devices still marked as such in use.

I wasn't talking about just IDE devices, but all the terminology usages in tech that are actually being changed.

Was it bad for Twitter to have removed the "master/slave" terms in their code?
https://www.theverge.com/2020/7/2/21...ramming-racism

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

You're assuming they would get triggered...

No, I already quoted black people saying they didn't like the terms and wanted them changed, sometimes actively doing so themselves.

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Getting back to what this thread is about......

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[Ernest Rister]

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[The Great Owl]

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[bobbyh64]

Did George Lucas know he was going to redeem Vader while Empire was being written or did that idea come afterwards? I’m curious how far in advance he had the ending of the trilogy planned out.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by bobbyh64

Did George Lucas know he was going to redeem Vader while Empire was being written or did that idea come afterwards? I’m curious how far in advance he had the ending of the trilogy planned out.

Lucas was going to have Vader be evil at the end of Jedi but the technology didn't exist at the time.

[martydmc12]

I'm an idiot.

I purposely avoided picking up the 2011 release of "The Complete Saga" because I wasn't going to give George my money until the original theatrical cuts were released. Yeah, I'm an idiot.

It's become quite apparent we might never get the original theatrical cuts "officially" on Blu-ray or 4K. Therefore I'm now regretting my choice in not picking this set up, especially for the fact it has the original 'making of' featurettes included on this set.

I've scoured Amazon (all second hand sellers only left, not Amazon) and eBay, and I honestly don't feel comfortable purchasing ordering from those sites, as there seems to be a lot of bootlegs floating around out there. I'm also really picky, and would like to get a new/unopened/sealed set, the Digibook version with Anakin on the cover, and in excellent condition, if that's even possible 12 years later.

If anyone has one like this available that they want to sell, or knows where I might be able locate one at a reputable online retailer, please let me know.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by martydmc12

I'm an idiot.

I purposely avoided picking up the 2011 release of "The Complete Saga" because I wasn't going to give George my money until the original theatrical cuts were released. Yeah, I'm an idiot.

It's become quite apparent we might never get the original theatrical cuts "officially" on Blu-ray or 4K. Therefore I'm now regretting my choice in not picking this set up, especially for the fact it has the original 'making of' featurettes included on this set.

I've scoured Amazon (all second hand sellers only left, not Amazon) and eBay, and I honestly don't feel comfortable purchasing ordering from those sites, as there seems to be a lot of bootlegs floating around out there. I'm also really picky, and would like to get a new/unopened/sealed set, the Digibook version with Anakin on the cover, and in excellent condition, if that's even possible 12 years later.

If anyone has one like this available that they want to sell, or knows where I might be able locate one at a reputable online retailer, please let me know.

The 2011 set is definitely worth it for the extras discs. With the the said the actual BDs are inferior to the new ones released in 2020. You might see if you can find the three extras discs individually from the 2011 set.

[IndyMLVC]

Originally Posted by martydmc12

I'm an idiot.

I purposely avoided picking up the 2011 release of "The Complete Saga" because I wasn't going to give George my money until the original theatrical cuts were released. Yeah, I'm an idiot.

It's become quite apparent we might never get the original theatrical cuts "officially" on Blu-ray or 4K. Therefore I'm now regretting my choice in not picking this set up, especially for the fact it has the original 'making of' featurettes included on this set.

I've scoured Amazon (all second hand sellers only left, not Amazon) and eBay, and I honestly don't feel comfortable purchasing ordering from those sites, as there seems to be a lot of bootlegs floating around out there. I'm also really picky, and would like to get a new/unopened/sealed set, the Digibook version with Anakin on the cover, and in excellent condition, if that's even possible 12 years later.

If anyone has one like this available that they want to sell, or knows where I might be able locate one at a reputable online retailer, please let me know.

Chances are, you're not going to get a bootleg on ebay. You're not an idiot. Just buy it from someone that's listing it as "like new."

Hell, there's one sealed right now for $69

[Jay G.]

Are you committed to getting a new copy? Used copies are pretty cheap, and they're far more likely to be legit, since a pirate isn't going to want to sell their copy cheap as used.

Amazon has a lot of listings of used copies from Goodwill stores and Half Price Books. In fact, you may want to check out a local Goodwill, used book store, or pawn shop to find a used copy. See what their return policy is for defective discs.

This Google Sheet gives a good overview of what release has what extras. The 2020 discs have a fair amount of extras, but seem to be entirely missing the deleted scenes. Also, it looks like redeeming the digital codes for those discs gives you a few more extras on MoviesAnywhere.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...xWkFODAY6BUuKs

If you're gung-ho on a new copy, you could check smaller, independent retailers. Maybe a record shop or comic book store that also sells some Blu-rays.

Or you could look into importing a new copy from another country. Buyoyo has the Hong Kong release for $128.90 + shipping:
https://www.buyoyo.com/buyoyo/eng/Pr...06540&prtype=0

YesAsia has the Taiwan edition for $171.99 + shipping:
https://www.yesasia.com/us/star-wars...0-en/info.html

[sfmarine]

Originally Posted by martydmc12

I'm an idiot.

I purposely avoided picking up the 2011 release of "The Complete Saga" because I wasn't going to give George my money until the original theatrical cuts were released. Yeah, I'm an idiot.

It's become quite apparent we might never get the original theatrical cuts "officially" on Blu-ray or 4K. Therefore I'm now regretting my choice

Lucas did include them as a bonus with the 2006 DVDs, but the quality was quite poor and cropped. They go for a premium now. Who knows what Disney will do in terms of release and mastering of the OT. I think either way, they would be exclusive to Disney+.

You can also look into Harmy's Despecialized Edition and Project 4K77 as well.

I see a few sealed Saga sets for around $70. Just check their feedback and you’ll be fine.

[martydmc12]

Originally Posted by IndyMLVC

Chances are, you're not going to get a bootleg on ebay.

Gotta be careful and watch eBay auctions closely.

Here's a bootleg on eBay right here that comes up as one of the first listings when searching "Star Wars The Complete Saga Blu-ray."

Originally Posted by sfmarine

Lucas did include them as a bonus with the 2006 DVDs, but the quality was quite poor and cropped. They go for a premium now. Who knows what Disney will do in terms of release and mastering of the OT. I think either way, they would be exclusive to Disney+.

I've got the Laserdisc Definitive collection, as they are the same transfers. I've also got both the 4K77 and 4K83. I'm really more interested in having the Blu-ray set because of the original behind-the-scenes featurettes that are included on that set. Plus it would be nice to own the prequels on Blu-ray at least, as I only have the DVD's in my collection; just haven't made the upgrade yet.

As for Disney and the theatrical cuts, my hope is that for the 50th Anniversary in 2027 we might get them, but I highly doubt it. I'm pretty sure Lucas made it that when he sold to Disney, the theatrical cuts can never be released without his approval, which is never, even after he dies. That's my guess anyways.

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by sfmarine

Lucas did include them as a bonus with the 2006 DVDs, but the quality was quite poor and cropped. They go for a premium now. Who knows what Disney will do in terms of release and mastering of the OT. I think either way, they would be exclusive to Disney+.

They weren’t cropped. They were 4x3 letterboxed transfers done for the 1993 Laserdisc release and thus not enhanced to fill 16x9 televisions properly.