Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 353 - Blu-ray Forum

bboisvert · 01-19-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OG Pooh

Yes, it was true. GL has always stated that he only made the OT first because he wanted the fact that Luke was Vader's Son to be a revelation to the audience. The basic outline of the entire saga was always centered on Vader. This was common knowledge long before the PT was made. Hell, this was revealed by GL soon after the OT was complete.

Lucas has said all of this... but that doesn't make it true.

He's not being honest with regards to how this developed.

I mentioned this in another thread (I think?) but people really should pick up a copy of The Secret History of Star Wars. During initial drafts of The Empire Strikes Back, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader were still separate characters and the plan for SW movies was to do about 12 (later reduced to 9) of them that were only vaguely related to each other.

The basic outline of the "entire saga" changed radically throughout the years and didn't center on Vader until at least after ESB, even not beyond. Again, Vader was generic bad-guy until then 2nd or 3rd draft of ESB made him Luke's daddy. (Not even Leia's at that point.)

Lucas likes to now portray this as some sort of "grand plan" that he cooked up in 1972 or whatever. That's simply isn't true.

OG Pooh · 01-19-2011, 11:45 PM

We'll leave the meaning of the title as one of those certain point of view things.

I must admit that I do take anything GL says with a grain of salt.

Either way, going back to where this started (the Hayden/Sebastian ghost issue), it doesn't change the fact that Anakin did not die a Sith. For me personally, I couldn't care less whether the spirit is that of a young or old Anakin. Like I said previously, I thought the whole scene was a bit much. To me it feels more like watching a play... When the whole cast comes out for a bow at the end. It was just kinda goofy to me. Anyway, there's a case to be made for either the Hayden or Sebastian spirit to show up. All I'm saying is the argument that Anakin was still a Sith at his death is not a valid one.

ScarredLungs · 01-19-2011, 11:45 PM

Has any of this been confirmed?

Duffy12 · 01-19-2011, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cvm

Has any of this been confirmed?

If you are referring to the deleted/extended scenes? - Lol -

No, with the exception of Luke building his lightsaber from RotJ.

So stay tuned.

ScarredLungs · 01-20-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

If you are referring to the deleted/extended scenes? - Lol -

No, with the exception of Luke building his lightsaber from RotJ.

So stay tuned.

I thought that was being added, but the OP mentioned it being deleted, so I was just checking. Thanks!

Duffy12 · 01-20-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bboisvert

Lucas likes to now portray this as some sort of "grand plan" that he cooked up in 1972 or whatever. That's simply isn't true.

While I agree with that, I do happen to remember that way back around 1980, one of my friends said that he either saw or read an interview with Lucas, that he stated that Vader's costume and disability was the result of his last confrontation with Obi-wan on the edge of a volcano.

So that part at least was not recently made up, but goes way back.

Duffy12 · 01-20-2011, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cvm

I thought that was being added, but the OP mentioned it being deleted, so I was just checking. Thanks!

Well, we are still not quite sure who the OP is or the veracity of his/her facts, however if true, I definitely appreciate the info being provided to us.

bboisvert · 01-20-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Pooh

I must admit that I do take anything GL says with a grain of salt.

Ab-so-lutely.

Highly recommended for any fan:
http://www.amazon.com/Secret-History...ews/0978465237

Duffy12 · 01-20-2011, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ

And why did Hobbie randomly start bleeding?

Lol

I have wondered about that also, but either assume it is the result of a hit from an AT-AT, but not near as bad as the one that got poor Dak.

PeterTHX · 01-20-2011, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ

And why did Hobbie randomly start bleeding?

It's pretty obvious he sustained battle damage (off screen). Luke does say "Hobbie, are you still with me?"

dcowboy7 · 01-20-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Anybody waiting until 2012 for the 3D releases?

No im waiting until 2031 for the hologram releases.

CoalClear · 01-20-2011, 12:46 AM

You would think he'd learn from his mistakes.

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Originally Posted by DJ_NachoMan

No, it's been confirmed the latest 2004 dvd release will be the source of the HD transfers for the 2011 blurays. It is also CONFIRMED the original theatrical versions WILL NOT be included in this release, and there is ZERO indication that they will ever be released.

This is direct from George Lucas mouth at Celebration V so anyone on this board who tells you otherwise is one hell of a wishful thinker. The originals are NOT being included. Get over it. Sorry.

ZoetMB · 01-20-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ_NachoMan

Otherwise Anakin would have been in Jedi Kindergarten being a 9 year old with all the 4 year olds.....

Maybe that's what made him so pissed off!

Agent Bond · 01-20-2011, 01:07 AM

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there is ZERO indication that they will ever be released

Over his dead body. Won't be long now.

Beast · 01-20-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CoalClear

You would think he'd learn from his mistakes.

What mistake? The fact that the newer versions have sold a crapload on DVD? Doesn't seem like a mistake at all.

Duffy12 · 01-20-2011, 02:01 AM

In case anybody here is interested...

"The Complete Saga" Blu-ray Trailer in Full HD 1080p"

Beast · 01-20-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

In case anybody here is interested...

"The Complete Saga" Blu-ray Trailer in Full HD 1080p"

And remember.... this has already been confirmed to be using older elements for the trailer. It is not what it will look like.

JamesKurtovich · 01-20-2011, 02:13 AM

That trailer is pretty cool.

Beast · 01-20-2011, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

That trailer is pretty cool.

Agreed. It's a sweet trailer. I hope we get one using the final elements closer to release date.

B.Hulk · 01-20-2011, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

In case anybody here is interested...

"The Complete Saga" Blu-ray Trailer in Full HD 1080p"

Omg

That just gave me goose bumps!!!

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01-19-2011, 11:45 PM	#7042
OG Pooh Banned Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Hudson Valley, NY Home Theater Gallery:1 Blu-ray collection:132	We'll leave the meaning of the title as one of those certain point of view things. I must admit that I do take anything GL says with a grain of salt. Either way, going back to where this started (the Hayden/Sebastian ghost issue), it doesn't change the fact that Anakin did not die a Sith. For me personally, I couldn't care less whether the spirit is that of a young or old Anakin. Like I said previously, I thought the whole scene was a bit much. To me it feels more like watching a play... When the whole cast comes out for a bow at the end. It was just kinda goofy to me. Anyway, there's a case to be made for either the Hayden or Sebastian spirit to show up. All I'm saying is the argument that Anakin was still a Sith at his death is not a valid one.

01-19-2011, 11:45 PM	#7043
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	Has any of this been confirmed?

01-20-2011, 02:01 AM	#7056
Duffy12 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Among the Tuatha’an 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:272	In case anybody here is interested... "The Complete Saga" Blu-ray Trailer in Full HD 1080p"

01-20-2011, 02:13 AM	#7058
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	That trailer is pretty cool.

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