Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[Lincoln6Echo]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

IN 2007, George Lucas said no Star Wars on either Blu-ray or HD-DVD. PC World contacted them and in May 2007 and here was the response,

"Lucasfilm Ltd. has no plans to release any of the Star Wars movies on Blu-ray or HD DVD. Listings on Amazon.com or any other Web site are purely speculative and erroneous."

Jump to Aug 2009 interview with Steve Sansweet:

Question: Is there any talk whatsoever, and I'm not even going to ask for a date because I know that's ridiculous, but is there any talk about the STAR WARS movies on a high definition format?

Answer: Yeah. I mean obviously we've been looking at that for a couple of years and I think one of the questions is when is the market penetration there and these days, will there be a market penetration before everything goes streaming? But we've been looking at an ultimate box set of the Star Wars movies, all six of the movies. And what special features would be. And clearly these days, if you did an ultimate box set and didn't do it in HD, Blu-ray, it just wouldn't make any sense. So now it's a matter of thinking okay, we've been thinking about this for a while, we know what kind of assets we want to use, we've done some work in cleaning up things, it's really a matter of making that decision of when's the best time to release it.

Do you wait and have an event because you're working off of the fact that there's going to be a new live action TV series?

All those things are very much in motion. I can say with pretty good confidence that at some point in the next several years there will be a complete set of STAR WARS movies and lots of extras and deleted footage and anything anyone could want. Although I say that with some trepidation now because our fans want everything, "Why the Holiday Special wasn't on there, you ruined my life!"

But in the next few years there will be an ultimate box set and certainly a Blu-ray set.


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Lucus moves like molasses. The speculation after the Aug. interview was that the box set would come out when the Clone Wars movie came out. Wrong. I will believe a Blu-ray offering is coming out when I can pre-order it. Keep your fingers crossed that George stays healthy until this set gets released. Anything happens to him, he probably has it in his will to never release it because he couldn't have final say on the finished product.

Take note of those dates. In 2007, BD and HD-DVD were still at odds with one another. The format war was still raging and I don't blame Lucasfilm for nto wanting to go the HD route until the format war was settled.

But now 4 years into the format, I think it's safe to say that BD is here to stay for a while, especially since hardware and software prices have come way down, and it'd be stupid not to give the public an ultimate Hi-Def version of these films to enjoy for years to come.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

Take note of those dates. In 2007, BD and HD-DVD were still at odds with one another. The format war was still raging and I don't blame Lucasfilm for nto wanting to go the HD route until the format war was settled.

But now 4 years into the format, I think it's safe to say that BD is here to stay for a while, especially since hardware and software prices have come way down, and it'd be stupid not to give the public an ultimate Hi-Def version of these films to enjoy for years to come.

BD 1.1 to 2.0 with BD-Live and some players not compatible with BD-Live. Now 4 years into the format 3D with HDMI 1.4, a hardware spec, gets introduced so its not as stable as you think. Official releases always say years from now. Do you know why it took so long to get the 6 movies on DVD? Because Lucas is paranoid about pirating of high quality versions of his movies. He doesn't like the Blu-ray format and it being so easy to crack the security is probably major reason why. Plus back in 2008, one of the chief scientists at THX came out against Blu-ray "a spinning technology" and was in favor of a flash based technology (probably with DMR protection) because of its size and ability to put several movies on a small media. I imagine this also appeals to Lucas. So he is going to drag along, as slow as possible, and if something he likes comes out, on the horizon, format wise, that does a better job against pirating, don't be surprised if he holds release for that format. He owns all the rights to these movies. It is him, not anyone else who is deciding everything that happens to this franchise. And he is a billionaire and doesn't have any issues with holding these titles because there is no money incentive for him at all. Its all artistic license and security.

[slick1ru2]

To whomever gave me a negative rep on George Lucas's fear of piracy. Do some research. Find a firm date from Lucus, LTD.. I am not doing your work for you. But that is HIM, not me.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

To whomever gave me a negative rep on George Lucas's fear of piracy. Do some research. Find a firm date from Lucus, LTD.. I am not doing your work for you. But that is HIM, not me.

You are right, I understand Lucas point of view of course on piracy, something for which I don't really have any respect for those that prefer doing it. I am not sure at his point, what are the security mesures for Blu-ray, they must be better then for DVD. just wondering?

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

Take note of those dates. In 2007, BD and HD-DVD were still at odds with one another. The format war was still raging and I don't blame Lucasfilm for nto wanting to go the HD route until the format war was settled.

But now 4 years into the format, I think it's safe to say that BD is here to stay for a while, especially since hardware and software prices have come way down, and it'd be stupid not to give the public an ultimate Hi-Def version of these films to enjoy for years to come.

Blu-ray is here to stay for sure, and we will be seeing a ''Star Wars Saga" release on this format in the near future!

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

BD 1.1 to 2.0 with BD-Live and some players not compatible with BD-Live. Now 4 years into the format 3D with HDMI 1.4, a hardware spec, gets introduced so its not as stable as you think. Official releases always say years from now. Do you know why it took so long to get the 6 movies on DVD? Because Lucas is paranoid about pirating of high quality versions of his movies. He doesn't like the Blu-ray format and it being so easy to crack the security is probably major reason why. Plus back in 2008, one of the chief scientists at THX came out against Blu-ray "a spinning technology" and was in favor of a flash based technology (probably with DMR protection) because of its size and ability to put several movies on a small media. I imagine this also appeals to Lucas. So he is going to drag along, as slow as possible, and if something he likes comes out, on the horizon, format wise, that does a better job against pirating, don't be surprised if he holds release for that format. He owns all the rights to these movies. It is him, not anyone else who is deciding everything that happens to this franchise. And he is a billionaire and doesn't have any issues with holding these titles because there is no money incentive for him at all. Its all artistic license and security.

The war is over and Blu-ray is the clear winner. The 3-D spec doesn't pose a threat to Blu-ray as a stable format at all, so chill out.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

You are right, I understand Lucas point of view of course on piracy, something for which I don't really have any respect for those that prefer doing it. I am not sure at his point, what are the security mesures for Blu-ray, they must be better then for DVD. just wondering?

It was broken almost as soon as it was released. Its not as an incentive because the media is more expensive then regular DVD. But that cost goes down as time goes by.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

It was broken almost as soon as it was released. Its not as an incentive because the media is more expensive then regular DVD. But that cost goes down as time goes by.

Yeah I suppose not a very big surprise that it was

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

It was broken almost as soon as it was released. Its not as an incentive because the media is more expensive then regular DVD. But that cost goes down as time goes by.

Above post circa 2006.

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by perdition

I wish the OP would have included the "Whatever film is released on blu-ray" option.

If it's possible to add that, please show me how to do it.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Blu-ray is here to stay for sure, and we will be seeing a ''Star Wars Saga" release on this format in the near future!



The war is over and Blu-ray is the clear winner. The 3-D spec doesn't pose a threat to Blu-ray as a stable format at all, so chill out.

You misunderstood me. Lucas and Lucas LTD does not like Blu-ray. Their chief engineer has said it. I am not saying 3D is a threat. 3D is an addition to the Blu-ray spec that has been out what, 4 years and changed 2 times now. Do you have a pre-BD Live player? Do you have pre-BD Live discs? Do you have a 3D TV, 3D Player and movies? Will they release a 3D version of Star Wars? etc. etc. . . Don't tell me to chill, large companies don't think Blu-ray is the future either. Microsoft believes the same thing the chief engineer of THX does, digital media is the future. Samsung has some technology they talked about in 2008 to make Blu-ray obsolete. Tell Samsung and Microsoft to chill.

http://www.toptechreviews.net/games/...entertainment/

But lets go back to what I said earlier. Lucas is afraid of high quality piracy of his work. Blu-ray encryption was broken the year it came out. He has no money motive. At all. I will believe it when I see it. And I will buy it day 1.

[slick1ru2]

Link to a Jan. 2007 article about the defeat of Blu-ray encription. It was defeated by the same individual who defeated the HD-DVD encription. I think the major reason Lucas came out not liking either format. With DMR, its harder to defeat. It may be you have to log in each time to get permission to watch, matching your license with one that is in their computer. One that is tracked to how many times and where you are watching the media from. An account with 1000 locations logged in at the same time would obviously be pirated and blocked for playback.

http://www.dailytech.com/Bluray+Encr...rticle5795.htm

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

You misunderstood me. Lucas and Lucas LTD does not like Blu-ray. Their chief engineer has said it. I am not saying 3D is a threat. 3D is an addition to the Blu-ray spec that has been out what, 4 years and changed 2 times now. Do you have a pre-BD Live player? Do you have pre-BD Live discs? Do you have a 3D TV, 3D Player and movies? Will they release a 3D version of Star Wars? etc. etc. . . Don't tell me to chill, large companies don't think Blu-ray is the future either. Microsoft believes the same thing the chief engineer of THX does, digital media is the future. Samsung has some technology they talked about in 2008 to make Blu-ray obsolete. Tell Samsung and Microsoft to chill.

http://www.toptechreviews.net/games/...entertainment/

But lets go back to what I said earlier. Lucas is afraid of high quality piracy of his work. Blu-ray encryption was broken the year it came out. He has no money motive. At all. I will believe it when I see it. And I will buy it day 1.

He made mostly the same comments about DVD and when he released the trilogy it broke records and made more money than he will ever know what to do with...piracy is piracy and EVERY single media format no matter how spiffy GL thinks it may be will be cracked and cracked quickly and will likely not affect the gazillion dollars he stands to make off of the blu ray boxset.

[slick1ru2]

Originally Posted by Volume11

He made mostly the same comments about DVD and when he released the trilogy it broke records and made more money than he will ever know what to do with...piracy is piracy and EVERY single media format no matter how spiffy GL thinks it may be will be cracked and cracked quickly and will likely not affect the gazillion dollars he stands to make off of the blu ray boxset.

Dude. He had a zillion dollars before the DVDs came out. He did not need or want another dime back then either. Notice he did not make the same fuss over the VHS versions, the quality is not there. Have you seen the DVDs? They are impeccable. He put out a product that on the right equipment looks near HD. That's why a blockbuster film that came out it the 70s did not see DVD until 2001. Its not the money that irks him about piracy. Its the fact that someone has access illegally to the work of his life. That is why he hates piracy, not because he is losing a dime. Its theft of what he holds most dear, the Precious.

[Lincoln6Echo]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Dude. He had a zillion dollars before the DVDs came out. He did not need or want another dime back then either. Notice he did not make the same fuss over the VHS versions, the quality is not there. Have you seen the DVDs? They are impeccable. He put out a product that on the right equipment looks near HD. That's why a blockbuster film that came out it the 70s did not see DVD until 2001. Its not the money that irks him about piracy. Its the fact that someone has access illegally to the work of his life. That is why he hates piracy, not because he is losing a dime. Its theft of what he holds most dear, the Precious.

Wha??? Reading back over your posts, do you really think that Lucas is THAT concerned over piracy? I mean, please...movies are being released every week on DVD and BD and Lucas is worried about piracy? Again, I mean, who has the time to go around pirating disc media...other than a million Chinese children in sweat shops?

It sounds like you are extremely skeptical that this SW Saga box set isn't coming out. Why? There's been the exact same press release on just about every Internet site that covers BD releases. If it weren't true, then these sites would be force to pull that news.

Besides, who the hell wants to watch a movie on their computer via USB flash drives? Not all TVs have USB ports for such interface. Mine doesn't.

[Volume11]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

Dude. He had a zillion dollars before the DVDs came out. He did not need or want another dime back then either. Notice he did not make the same fuss over the VHS versions, the quality is not there. Have you seen the DVDs? They are impeccable. He put out a product that on the right equipment looks near HD. That's why a blockbuster film that came out it the 70s did not see DVD until 2001. Its not the money that irks him about piracy. Its the fact that someone has access illegally to the work of his life. That is why he hates piracy, not because he is losing a dime. Its theft of what he holds most dear, the Precious.

And the bigger point I'm trying to impart on you is that any and all media storage/playback formats can and will be cracked nor was Blu the first format to have been done so easily so whether or not he releases it now or later is irrelevant to the discussion you are presenting. Even the uber silly distribution method you mentioned is silly because, again, someone will crack it, steal it and figure out how to illegally distribute it and it will limit his buying audience.

Using this logic he should never release another film on any format now or in the future (including streaming or code locked content) because it WILL GET CRACKED and illegally distributed.

And the same argument can be applied to the DVD releases. He released those, didn't he?

Unless you are seriously trying to tell all of us that he didn't care about piracy when the OT hit VHS and DVD, both as susceptible to pirating as Blu, and that 1080p is where he draws the line in the sand?

[Uxi]

Vi > III > II > I > V > IV

He didn't release it on DVD until he was free to approve, if not supervise, the DVD. When everyone was clamoring for DVDs, he was working on the prequels. Sure, he can just assign a goon to rubber stamp it, but he's obsessive/compulsive and it's his baby, he funded it, etc so he reaps all the reward, and wants to take the subjectively proper amount of time it takes him to give it the yeah or nay.

[slick1ru2]

I know that any media will be cracked. Its LUCAS! EMAIL HIM!

http://www.cinematical.com/2005/11/2...-talks-piracy/

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2001/jun/05/news2

http://www.timeout.com/film/news/435/


An October 2011 release is a rumor. I will believe it when I can pre-order it.

http://www.highdefdiscnews.com/?p=41905

Its called a pseudo announcment in this article. LOL
http://videoeta.com/news/2982

July 2009 Comic Con original conversation that originated the speculation the box sets would be released when the Clone Wars movie was coming out.

http://www.examiner.com/x-2730-Star-...Steve-Sansweet



Look, Lucas sounds like he wants PPV instead of a media you can buy and hold. ITS HIM, NOT ME. I think the perfect media for him would be like the mission movies in Mission Impossible, they would self destruct after you watch them. Again, its HIM, not ME!

Everyone and their mother have jumped on this "in the works" announcement made in Chicago this year. He said basically the same thing last year at Comic Con. If you actually look at those interviews, in one Lucas talks about 3D and sounds very interested. Will he choose a 3D effect and will that take longer to make? I have no idea. And so does no one who authored any of those articles that all over the web. My entire point to all of my posts is, when I can pre-order the box set with a firm date, I know its coming out and I will buy it day one.

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

I think the perfect media for him would be like the mission movies in Mission Impossible, they would self destruct after you watch them.

Well...they had that back in 99, and it was that stupid DIVX that Circuit City tried to push on us. So Lucas missed the boat on that one.

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[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by slick1ru2

You misunderstood me. Lucas and Lucas LTD does not like Blu-ray. Their chief engineer has said it. I am not saying 3D is a threat. 3D is an addition to the Blu-ray spec that has been out what, 4 years and changed 2 times now. Do you have a pre-BD Live player? Do you have pre-BD Live discs? Do you have a 3D TV, 3D Player and movies? Will they release a 3D version of Star Wars? etc. etc. . . Don't tell me to chill, large companies don't think Blu-ray is the future either. Microsoft believes the same thing the chief engineer of THX does, digital media is the future. Samsung has some technology they talked about in 2008 to make Blu-ray obsolete. Tell Samsung and Microsoft to chill.

http://www.toptechreviews.net/games/...entertainment/

But lets go back to what I said earlier. Lucas is afraid of high quality piracy of his work. Blu-ray encryption was broken the year it came out. He has no money motive. At all. I will believe it when I see it. And I will buy it day 1.

The link is ridiculous at best. Just because some dude says so on the internet doesn't mean it's true, and I am sure it's not true, because Blu-ray is awesome. Everyone is going to have a HDTV in the very near future, and BD players and software have become very affordable already, so it's a natural choice. I personally, Blu-ray can be better than sex.

Time will tell, but I am confident that Lucas will give us SW on Blu-ray.

Originally Posted by Volume11

He made mostly the same comments about DVD and when he released the trilogy it broke records and made more money than he will ever know what to do with...piracy is piracy and EVERY single media format no matter how spiffy GL thinks it may be will be cracked and cracked quickly and will likely not affect the gazillion dollars he stands to make off of the blu ray boxset.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Lincoln6Echo

Wha??? Reading back over your posts, do you really think that Lucas is THAT concerned over piracy? I mean, please...movies are being released every week on DVD and BD and Lucas is worried about piracy? Again, I mean, who has the time to go around pirating disc media...other than a million Chinese children in sweat shops?

It sounds like you are extremely skeptical that this SW Saga box set isn't coming out. Why? There's been the exact same press release on just about every Internet site that covers BD releases. If it weren't true, then these sites would be force to pull that news.

Besides, who the hell wants to watch a movie on their computer via USB flash drives? Not all TVs have USB ports for such interface. Mine doesn't.

I don't believe Lucas is freaking out over this either. In fact, I don't even think he is concerned about it, for SW fans will want the real deal, not some disgusting ripped whatever...

Originally Posted by Volume11

And the bigger point I'm trying to impart on you is that any and all media storage/playback formats can and will be cracked nor was Blu the first format to have been done so easily so whether or not he releases it now or later is irrelevant to the discussion you are presenting. Even the uber silly distribution method you mentioned is silly because, again, someone will crack it, steal it and figure out how to illegally distribute it and it will limit his buying audience.

Using this logic he should never release another film on any format now or in the future (including streaming or code locked content) because it WILL GET CRACKED and illegally distributed.

And the same argument can be applied to the DVD releases. He released those, didn't he?

Unless you are seriously trying to tell all of us that he didn't care about piracy when the OT hit VHS and DVD, both as susceptible to pirating as Blu, and that 1080p is where he draws the line in the sand?

Absolutely! If everyone thought like slick1ru2, nobody would release anything: CDs, DVDs, BDs, Books,....

It simply doesn't make sense!

[RudyC]

i hope the first 3 get extended directors cuts... maybe just the extra footage from the deleted scenes..

as for the OT... if its not the Original versions restored...i'll pass.