Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[octagon]

Originally Posted by riverbelow

Wait.. Mutual feelings manifested?

Odd way in which it was carried out :P

"creepy sex looks"

No, no, no - gazing longingly at Natalie Portman is only creepy when we do it.

Particularly if we're watching The Professional at the time.

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by Beast

Well, according to the Official Timeline....

42 Years Before The Battle Of Yavin - Anakin Skywalker is born.
33 Years Before The Battle Of Yavin - The Phantom Menace
23 Years Before The Battle Of Yavin - Attack Of The Clones
23-20 Years Before The Battle Of Yavin - The Clone Wars
20 Years Before The Battle Of Yavin - Revenge Of The Sith
-- The Battle Of Yavin - A New Hope
3 Years After The Battle Of Yavin - Empire Strikes Back
4 Years After The Battle Of Yavin - Return Of The Jedi

So Anakin is between 45-46 at the time of his death in Return Of The Jedi.

Yeah, the ages of Obi-Wan and Anakin bounce all over the map, depending on when you ask. Way back when, Obi and Anakin were peers and Vader was a separate (younger) character. When he combined Anakin and Vader into a single character that was Obi's apprentice, the ages had to change. And then they changed again in Episode I when he made Anakin into a little kid (to make separate from his mom more traumatic) and made Obi-Wan younger, after giving most of Obi's role to Qui-Gon.

There's essentially 3 different age timelines and they really don't match up now in the "official" one now that the films are all done. Just one of those things you have to ignore. When you look at Anakin unmasked in RotJ, he's clearly not in his mid-40s. And Obi-Wan is not only 20 years older from RotS->ANH.

Just one of those things...

Originally Posted by riverbelow

Wait.. Mutual feelings manifested?

Odd way in which it was carried out :P

"creepy sex looks"

It's rough, and course, and it gets everywhere... <touches bare skin>

[PeterTHX]

Wow, no comments over this?

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/20/li...ars-exclusive/

Or wild fanboy speculation over deleted scenes from ROTS, or how he would never do this because Lucas sucks?

[kinko]

I'm surprised more people aren't putting their foot down and insisting on the unaltered original 3 being released.
This worked for fans of The Lord of the Rings releases.
I guess we are all far too familiar with George Lucas' way of doing business by now!

[bboisvert]

Originally Posted by kinko

This worked for fans of The Lord of the Rings releases

No, it didn't. The plan for LotR all along was to do the theatrical editions with a few fluffy supplements and then release the extended editions later with tons of extras.

It's the exact same plan they used with DVD. "Fans" had nothing to do with it.



I'm in the crowd that very much wants the original trilogy (non-SE) released in 1080p. But I'm also a realistic person. Even if EVERYONE who felt that way boycotted the BD release, it wouldn't even make a small dent in sales.

It'll get released when/if someone in charge at Lucasfilm decides it should. There's no way in hell any of us can put financial pressure on Lucas to do so. Come on.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Wow, no comments over this?

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/20/li...ars-exclusive/

Or wild fanboy speculation over deleted scenes from ROTS, or how he would never do this because Lucas sucks?

I thought it had been mentioned. I don't mid it sort of gives Obi's expression of surprise to Yoda at the end of RotS an added meaning. Like 'You too? I thought that was just a dream...."

[octagon]

Originally Posted by bboisvert

But I'm also a realistic person. Even if EVERYONE who felt that way boycotted the BD release, it wouldn't even make a small dent in sales.

I'm not sure that's entirely true.

I agree that the people who feel strongly enough to boycott are a pretty small group but the people who would like to see a release of the unaltered OT might be a fairly sizable chunk. People who don't care one way or the other are almost certainly a solid majority but I tend to think the 'yeah, that would be cool' crowd would make more than a small dent.

And of course the 'well, hell, put everything in there and drop it to $30 on Black Friday' contingent is huge.

[JamesKurtovich]

We may get another release of the theatrical editions, but not any time soon and there's no reason to assume we'll ever get them in HD. The only reason Lucas included them as extras in the DVDs were to show people the "rough drafts" of the newest editions of SW.

See, Lucas doesn't want us to see the OOT (Original OT) as SW. He wants us to forget that Han shot first and that Tatooine isn't Jurassic Park. The only way he'll ever give them to us is strictly as a "history lesson" in the evolution of the SW series.

Unfortunately, people aren't looking at them and saying, "WOW! Can't believe SW was once like this! What crap!" as Lucas seems to think.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Maybe because I have a life I'm not sure what you're getting at but it was a ridiculous dig at Lucas in the first place. The official or fan made trailers aren't going to convince anyone to buy the set. They make you aware the films are coming to Blu-ray and that's it. You either want to buy them when they come out or you don't. Certainly nobody in this thread can pretend to not know that they were coming.

Also: did the "fan" trailer give you an idea what the official transfer was going to look like? What sound format? What extras? So somebody cut a bunch of footage together that was more appealing to you. But it didn't do something: it didn't tell us a darn thing what we already didn't know.

Get the point?

You have a life? My god, how old are you? Anyways, yes I see your point. However, he was entitled to his opinion, and your post was indeed missing his point. You talk as though you are on a payroll for Lucas Arts. Lighten up. He liked the fan trailer more than the official one. He accidentally said the name Lucas, when he should have been saying "Lucas's yes men". Feel free to pm me if you want to go into this further.

Frankly, it's exhausting to read all of these posts trying to defend Lucas. I really hope he is paying you guys well.

For the rest of us, opinions are still free and I plan on expressing mine.

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

We may get another release of the theatrical editions, but not any time soon and there's no reason to assume we'll ever get them in HD. The only reason Lucas included them as extras in the DVDs were to show people the "rough drafts" of the newest editions of SW.

See, Lucas doesn't want us to see the OOT (Original OT) as SW. He wants us to forget that Han shot first and that Tatooine isn't Jurassic Park. The only way he'll ever give them to us is strictly as a "history lesson" in the evolution of the SW series.

Unfortunately, people aren't looking at them and saying, "WOW! Can't believe SW was once like this! What crap!" as Lucas seems to think.

Agreed; we will likely never see the originals in HD. After all, didn't Lucas put the originals on that DVD release a few years back from a remaster done for the laserdisc? A friend and I skimmed through them and frankly they looked like garbage. It was obvious they released it as some sort of jab to the fans if anything.

[JamesKurtovich]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Frankly, it's exhausting to read all of these posts trying to defend Lucas. I really hope he is paying you guys well.

For the rest of us, opinions are still free and I plan on expressing mine.

But. But. Lucas made these movies. They belong to him. Get it? He could wipe out the entire OT and replace it with remakes that simply go along with the PT seamlessly and he'd be WELL within his rights to do so.

It's his true vision of SW. Who are we to deny that?

/sarcasm

No, but seriously. I believe the newest version of the OT to be inferior due to the distracting, unnecessary changes, but I still love it since it's still the same trilogy.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by bboisvert

It's rough, and course, and it gets everywhere... <touches bare skin>

My, Anakin, you've grown.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

My, Anakin, you've grown.

"So have you.... Grown more beautiful, I mean. Well, for—for a senator, I mean."

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by Beast

*Facepalms* 20 Years Ago. He knew who Princess Leia was in ANH, because he's a Protocal Droid of the House of Organa.

C-3PO: "They'll be no escaping for the Princess this time."

C-3PO even sees R2-D2 getting the data from Princess Leia before they escape. You know, when he finds R2-D2 in the hallway.

He knows who she is when she appears in hologram. He just doesn't tell Luke this. Probably due to his programming.

After all, Princess Leia was a member of the Imperial Senate and was also secretly a member of the Rebellion.

C-3PO would likely be programmed to not divulge knowledge of Princess Leia or that she was on board, if the ship was stopped by the Empire.

No doubt.

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Exactly. Sometimes I think this is why so many people think there are continuity issues or plot holes...they're not really paying as much attention as they think they are to the story or the dialogue.

Exactly! That's what I always say. The people who endlessly complain about the terrible plotholes and whatnot have probably never watched the Saga with their brains switched on.

Originally Posted by R3P0

Heres a Fan made trailer I found, much better then the crap Lucas released

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgskO...eature=related

Really cool, especially the 2nd part! I got goosebumps!
Thanks for posting!

I would love if Lucas had ILM redo all the simplistic computer graphics in the OT (on the monitors....). It would take them a a couple of minutes, and would make everything so much cooler!

Originally Posted by nathan_393

I'm familiar with the storyline, but I really don't think I buy any of that as a true part of the story. Where the films begin and end are where it begins and end for me, personally. I find it hard to believe Lucas really thinks any of these stories are actually canon

Yeah, for me too. That's why I still haven't seen a single Clone Wars episode.

Originally Posted by Beast

There's no reason to use Hayden for the unmasking, just the ghost was all that needed changed.

I wouldn't mind though.

Originally Posted by OG Pooh

Definitely not accurate.

...And why shouldn't a person look like themself? Whenever it's possible to use the same actor, isn't that the best choice? Personally, I think the ghost should be that of an older Anakin. He died having turned back to the good side. He died a Jedi, not a Sith. Ben's spirit wasn't that of Ewen McGregor. Yoda's wan't that of a spry young Whil. They were both that of how they were when they entered the spirit realm. There is no reason for Anakin's ghost to be that of a young Anakin. The best solution would be for Hayden to play all of Anakin's parts (except the youngest one, for which he is too old).

Dear, oh dear! Obi Wan, nor Yoda ever turned to the dark side, but Anakin did, so when he became one with the force, he took on the appearance of when he last was a Jedi.

Yep, Anakin couldn't have been cast originally in the OT, but now that we have a young Anakin, they should use him in all the shots, although I am pretty happy the way it was in the 2004 version.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by Beast

"So have you.... Grown more beautiful, I mean. Well, for—for a senator, I mean."

Fast forward a bit--

She was a-happy! Happier than meesa seein her in a longlong time!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by Imrahil2001

So an anonymous, unofficial source says it, and that's "confirmation"? Yeah, I'll wait for actual confirmation on that.

Geez. Someone who works in the industry and has contacts in the industry and with Lucasfilm actually has information? GASP!

[Beast]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Fast forward a bit--

She was a-happy! Happier than meesa seein her in a longlong time!

You're gonna make me wanna watch Attack Of The Clones again. I just rewatched TPM cause of you people.

[tilapiah6]

Originally Posted by Beast

You're gonna make me wanna watch Attack Of The Clones again. I just rewatched TPM cause of you people.

Yeah I'm wanting to re-watch the whole saga after all this talk in the last couple of weeks.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by tilapiah6

Yeah I'm wanting to re-watch the whole saga after all this talk in the last couple of weeks.

Me as well.
Although I have no problem skipping most of AOTC and about a third of ROTS. Just embarrassing acting and writing.

And seriously, why did Grievous cough? I could never figure that out. Did a droid have a heart issue? Was he a chain smoker?

[simon_hrdng]

Originally Posted by nathan_393

Me as well.
Although I have no problem skipping most of AOTC and about a third of ROTS. Just embarrassing acting and writing.

And seriously, why did Grievous cough? I could never figure that out. Did a droid have a heart issue? Was he a chain smoker?

If you saw the animated Clone Wars mini series, you would see that Grevious was damaged by a Jedi during his attempt in kidnapping Palpatine.

[Uxi]

Originally Posted by nathan_393

And seriously, why did Grievous cough? I could never figure that out. Did a droid have a heart issue? Was he a chain smoker?

Commentary hinted it was more of a 'phantom limb' type thing and that the process of linking brain to the mechanism wasn't quite perfect IIRC.... though the first animated Clone Wars series had Mace's crushing as the reason. Neither are quite mutually exclusive.