Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[IndefinentBlu]

I wonder if Lucas ever intended to explain where the characters from the PT are during the OT:

1)WATTO
2)Poggle
3)JarJar
4)Captain Typho
5)Captain Tanaka
6)All of Padme's family
7)Mas Amedda

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by IndefinentBlu

I wonder if Lucas ever intended to explain where the characters from the PT are during the OT:

Are they discussed in the books? I'd guess that given the size of the Star Wars "universe" and ability to travel etc.... it's just sort of assumed that the Ewoks are just building wooden horses etc... during the PT, and JarJar is doing whatever JarJar does during the OT

[BladeRunner2007]

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but is George going to replace the Yoda puppet in Episode I with a CGI Yoda? Also what others changes are confirmed?

[IndefinentBlu]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Are they discussed in the books? I'd guess that given the size of the Star Wars "universe" and ability to travel etc.... it's just sort of assumed that the Ewoks are just building wooden horses etc... during the PT, and JarJar is doing whatever JarJar does during the OT

Yeah you're right.

[IndefinentBlu]

Originally Posted by BladeRunner2007

I know I'm gonna get flamed for this but is George going to replace the Yoda puppet in Episode I with a CGI Yoda? Also what others changes are confirmed?

I believe he will change the puppet yoda for the digital yoda.

[Mahatma]

Originally Posted by IndefinentBlu

I believe he will change the puppet yoda for the digital yoda.

Will he do that to the OT Yoda too?

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Mahatma

Will he do that to the OT Yoda too?

He is quite fond of the puppet Yoda in the OT so I doubt it.

[IndefinentBlu]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

He is quite fond of the puppet Yoda in the OT so I doubt it.

Yeah i agree.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

He is quite fond of the puppet Yoda in the OT so I doubt it.

Is it that.... or is it the fact that he can pretty much change things here and there in the PT, and they're often seen as "improvements" but when he messes with the three that people typically care about the most he gets chastised

(for the record, I don't want to see a CGI Yoda in the OT)

[JamesKurtovich]

I did hear that he's interesting in tweaking OT Yoda (movement, facial expression, etc.) but that's hollow ground so if he does indeed plan on it then he should tread lightly.

What am I saying, it's George Lucas. He's already jumped the shark with all the changes. Don't be surprised when he removes the dialogue concerning the Force surrounding all of us and has CG Yoda explain to Luke that midichlorians give each Jedi a power level.

[IndefinentBlu]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

I did hear that he's interesting in tweaking OT Yoda. But that's hollow ground so if he does indeed plan on it then he should tread lightly.

What am I saying, it's George Lucas. He's already jumped the shark with the tweaks. Don't be surprised when he removes the dialogue concerning the Force surrounding all of us and has CG Yoda explain to Luke that midichlorians give every Jedi a power level.

remember the blu-rays will be THE CLOSEST to his vision and that is confirmation enough that we will see stuff changed.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by chip75

I thought it was silly as well, he can get in a pod and go miles away, thats okay?

Dude, enough with the RLM-style assumptions. Where is it said that the transmitter is or isn't proximity related? Maybe Watto's got a remote detonator somewhere? If the boy don't come back from his day at the races: KA-BOOM!

As for Shmi not being freed earlier, it's made explicitly clear in Phantom Menace that the Republic have no influence in the Outer Rim. Even their currency is worthless. The Jedi aren't in the day-to-day business of freeing slaves either, with Qui-Gon freeing the gifted Anakin being the exception that proves the rule.

Lucas launched us head-first into the Star Wars universe with the original film, giving us some info in the title crawl and then BAM - we're right into it. His mistake was trying the same trick with the prequels, as those films were made to fill in the gaps of the OT and I think people expected an orgy of self-serving dot-connecting rather than the, er, "freeform" stories that we actually got.

Lucas didn't have to explain everything away in the original movies, we just got swept along with it, and I honestly think that he expected audiences to be able to do the same thing with the prequels. Sure, the story is more convoluted than the simplistic OT and definitely needed more work - although the structures of the actual films are VERY similar - yet the bare bones are there for anyone willing to actually dig for them. Heck, most of the groundwork of Phantom Menace which the RLM review complained so very much about not understanding is explained right there in the crawl. But in this golden age of nit-picking - brought to you by the Internet™ - people obsess about the smallest of details (visible poison gas = WORST MOVIE EVER etc) which leaves them unwilling or unable to step back and see the bigger picture.

George is of course guilty of this himself, which is part of the problem. He's a perfectionist who's constantly tweaking, updating and revising his work whether he made it 35 years or 35 minutes ago (a holdover from his early days as a documentary maker). In a way, these movies were made by the ultimate nit-picking film-maker for the ultimate nit-picking audience, and instead of satisfying the latter it created a perfect storm of fanboy angst that will be remembered for as long as the name of Star Wars is known.

I know I'm tying myself in all sorts of knots with this post, but it's been on my mind for a while and I just wanted to vomit it out in all its glory.

Originally Posted by bboisvert

Getting the whole trilogy sketched out a bit in advance and then doing one more pass on the scripts would have done wonders. Instead, he seemed more interested in getting yet another shot of a ship landing in the prequels. (Seriously -- count the number of times you see ships landing or taking off... possibly the most pedestrian of things, but the PT is *full* of these shots. It makes a fun drinking game.)

Yup, dude's got an obession with all things taking off/landing related. He even added that superfluous Vader/Star Destroyer sequence to Empire.

[Jay444]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yup, dude's got an obession with all things taking off/landing related. He even added that superfluous Vader/Star Destroyer sequence to Empire.

I always thought Lucas was a 'race car' kind of guy, ya know? His first film had a lot of sexy shots of 1960s cars and the big moment in THX-1138 was the chase at the end. Guy just is fascinated with cars and movement like that. Even Luke and Anakin are good at being mechanics/pilots. Hell, Han Solo spends most of his time in Empire working on the Falcon. Lucas is a product of the 1950s for sure! I think that crossed over into all of his films. To be honest, I would not be surprised at all to learn he was a NASCAR fan (god help us).

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Jay444

I always thought Lucas was a 'race car' kind of guy, ya know? His first film had a lot of sexy shots of 1960s cars and the big moment in THX-1138 was the chase at the end. Guy just is fascinated with cars and movement like that. Even Luke and Anakin are good at being mechanics/pilots. Hell, Han Solo spends most of his time in Empire working on the Falcon. Lucas is a product of the 1950s for sure! I think that crossed over into all of his films. To be honest, I would not be surprised at all to learn he was a NASCAR fan (god help us).

Anakin may be mechanically inclined but that was just part of his character, I think Lucas is more a fan of tinkering. Someone who's such a huge fan of technology probably wouldn't have so many essential characters who use a mystical power like the Jedi and the Sith do.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Jay444

I always thought Lucas was a 'race car' kind of guy, ya know? His first film had a lot of sexy shots of 1960s cars and the big moment in THX-1138 was the chase at the end. Guy just is fascinated with cars and movement like that. Even Luke and Anakin are good at being mechanics/pilots. Hell, Han Solo spends most of his time in Empire working on the Falcon. Lucas is a product of the 1950s for sure! I think that crossed over into all of his films. To be honest, I would not be surprised at all to learn he was a NASCAR fan (god help us).

I dunno about NASCAR but he loves his Formula 1. It's no coincidence that the podracer engines sound very similar to F1 cars.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Jay444

I always thought Lucas was a 'race car' kind of guy, ya know? His first film had a lot of sexy shots of 1960s cars and the big moment in THX-1138 was the chase at the end. Guy just is fascinated with cars and movement like that. Even Luke and Anakin are good at being mechanics/pilots. Hell, Han Solo spends most of his time in Empire working on the Falcon. Lucas is a product of the 1950s for sure! I think that crossed over into all of his films. To be honest, I would not be surprised at all to learn he was a NASCAR fan (god help us).

He is a HUGE fans of racing. Always was! I see him often during F1 races on TV walking around the cars before the race. He almost got kill at the age 0f 17 or 18 (I don't feel like looking it up) with a small fast car he had back then. Even today he can be seen in many celebrity races.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

As for Shmi not being freed earlier, it's made explicitly clear in Phantom Menace that the Republic have no influence in the Outer Rim. Even their currency is worthless. The Jedi aren't in the day-to-day business of freeing slaves either, with Qui-Gon freeing the gifted Anakin being the exception that proves the rule.

There was nothing stopping Padme from freeing Shmi and though Republic currency was worthless on Tatooine, they could've traded her freedom in exchange for something like a spaceship. Though the Jedi and the Republic are not in the habit of freeing slaves, you would think they would have been willing to make an exception for the mother of a boy who risked his life for them in a pod race and then later destroyed the Trade Federation droid control ship thus effectively ending the battle on Naboo and saving thousands of lives. Padme, Naboo, the Jedi, and the Republic REALLY couldn't have done SOMETHING to help Anakin's mother for all he did for them?

[MCT]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

Don't be surprised when he removes the dialogue concerning the Force surrounding all of us and has CG Yoda explain to Luke that midichlorians give each Jedi a power level.

Luke....Luuuuke....train hard, and a LvL 52 Jedi Guardian you will become. Fear you, n00bz will.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by JamesKurtovich

I did hear that he's interesting in tweaking OT Yoda (movement, facial expression, etc.) but that's hollow ground so if he does indeed plan on it then he should tread lightly.

What am I saying, it's George Lucas. He's already jumped the shark with all the changes. Don't be surprised when he removes the dialogue concerning the Force surrounding all of us and has CG Yoda explain to Luke that midichlorians give each Jedi a power level.

Why would he? There's no need to go into technical details with Luke about the force. He's just a dumb blonde from the outer rim.

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by MCT

Luke....Luuuuke....train hard, and a LvL 52 Jedi Guardian you will become. Fear you, n00bz will.

LOL his stick cane looks faker than the puppet does. Level 52 Jedi Grand Master ftw!