Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005)

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by octagon

Fox Executive Discusses Blu-ray Plans

Not good news - but not BAD either.

I'm willing to wait a year or two for Uncle George to break *again*.

I'll buy this set day 1 still, and get by with what I already have of the UOT.

Star Wars FILM collection: WARNING! NERDFEST!
1. Original 3 Films Unaltered on VHS, Individual Original Packaging (1986, FS).
2. ROTJ VHS (alternate Packaging, 1986, FS)
3. VHS 1992 Re-Release (as a trilogy, in a cool double-slipcover, WS)
4. 1997 Special Edition Trilogy, WS
5. the phantom menace DVD, WS
6. the phantom menace DVD, FS
7. attack of the clones DVD, WS
8. attack of the clones DVD, FS
9. revenge of the sith DVD, WS
10. revenge of the sity DVD, FS
11. 2004 DVD Trilogy Boxset, Silver (WS Trilogy)
12. ANH DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
13. ESB DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
14. ROTJ DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)

[Bluyoda]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Not good news - but not BAD either.

I'm willing to wait a year or two for Uncle George to break *again*.

I'll buy this set day 1 still, and get by with what I already have of the UOT.

Star Wars FILM collection: WARNING! NERDFEST!
1. Original 3 Films Unaltered on VHS, Individual Original Packaging (1986, FS).
2. ROTJ VHS (alternate Packaging, 1986, FS)
3. VHS 1992 Re-Release (as a trilogy, in a cool double-slipcover, WS)
4. 1997 Special Edition Trilogy, WS
5. the phantom menace DVD, WS
6. the phantom menace DVD, FS
7. attack of the clones DVD, WS
8. attack of the clones DVD, FS
9. revenge of the sith DVD, WS
10. revenge of the sity DVD, FS
11. 2004 DVD Trilogy Boxset, Silver (WS Trilogy)
12. ANH DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
13. ESB DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
14. ROTJ DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)

Why the heck would you want the Fullscreen versions of the film?
Just for the sake of having everything released?

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Why the heck would you want the Fullscreen versions of the film?
Just for the sake of having everything released?

Pretty much just to have as a collection. Like I said - Nerdfest.

And, I still have an older 37" CRT in the basement I sometimes watch just DVD's or old VHS on, I may sometimes be so inclined to just pop-in the FS version of ROTS or ESB. But if I'm on my Sony HD upstairs, it's OAR only.

I like to have options.

[Dr.Robotnik]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Pretty much just to have as a collection. Like I said - Nerdfest.

And, I still have an older 37" CRT in the basement I sometimes watch just DVD's or old VHS on, I may sometimes be so inclined to just pop-in the FS version of ROTS or ESB. But if I'm on my Sony HD upstairs, it's OAR only.

I like to have options.

I hear ya buddy i'm the same way.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Really? No UOT?

Where did this news come from that it won't be included?

I guess I'll just have to wait another year or two until there is another box set of them, just like they did with DVD.

OK, let's clear this up right now...

For the record, Lucas made it clear many times, that he did not want to include the original releases on DVD. He didn't believe they were up to his standard, so he essentially ignored them. In terms of his viewpoint regarding the saga, the 2004 DVDs are the "official" existence of the first trilogy. Eventually, Lucas relented, just to get the purists and diehards to shut up...but then they started whining about nothing being different!

I think it was Rick McCallum who once said, "They wanted them unaltered, and that's what they got." In truth, the chances of the original prints having survived are rare; we saw on the 1997 documentary how poor the condition of them was before the SEs were done, and that was 14 years ago. Lucas did what he could, by including the laserdisc transfers as bonus material for the LEs. Beyond that, I'd say the "original" films will probably remain as pieces of history. If undamaged prints do exist (highly unlikely), then I'm sure Lucas has his reasons for not updating them. If you don't like his choices, fine; don't buy anything else of his. But whining and protesting on a message board isn't going to change anything. If you're really that nuts about it, write Lucasfilm a letter; at least that would be more productive than ranting about it here.

[Bluyoda]

He wasn't really whining at all IMO. I think he took it quite well.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

He wasn't really whining at all IMO. I think he took it quite well.

I wasn't just addressing him in particular; I merely used his comments to reference all the "purists" who have been relentlessly complaining about such issues. Frankly, I've become sick of it. If folks really want to get their message across to Lucas, they'll either contact his company, or better yet, speak with their wallet. Anything else won't make much of a difference in the long run.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I think it was Rick McCallum who once said, "They wanted them unaltered, and that's what they got."

Letterbox Laser Disc ports isn't quite what we had in mind though, is it Rick? Lucas did what he could? Credit where credits due, in that aspect he did bugger all. Those bonus theatrical editions felt more like an insult than a delicious treat (which is what they should have been).

Moviefan2k4, we will let our wallets do the talking, hopefully Mr. Lucas will put some of the proceeds into the 'Save the Original Theatrical Editions' fund he has in a jar on his mantlepiece (we all know it's there).

[Blu-man08]

Originally Posted by Imrahil2001

Good thing someone put you in charge of the internet.

LOL. Good one. I'm glad I wasn't drinking coffee when I read that. I would have choked for sure.

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

I wasn't just addressing him in particular; I merely used his comments to reference all the "purists" who have been relentlessly complaining about such issues. Frankly, I've become sick of it. If folks really want to get their message across to Lucas, they'll either contact his company, or better yet, speak with their wallet. Anything else won't make much of a difference in the long run.

Agree 100% percent. Complaining about the issues won't do much good.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Imrahil2001

Good thing someone put you in charge of the internet.

Sarcasm aside, I was simply pointing out that if anyone really wants to drive their point home, they'll switch tactics, and contact Lucasfilm directly. That alone would be more reliable than complaining here, and hoping someone in a position to "fix" things will stop by. After all, how likely do you think it is that Lucas or his employees spend hours on this website?

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

Sarcasm aside, I was simply pointing out that if anyone really wants to drive their point home, they'll switch tactics, and contact Lucasfilm directly. That alone would be more reliable than complaining here, and hoping someone in a position to "fix" things will stop by. After all, how likely do you think it is that Lucas or his employees spend hours on this website?

Waste of time, I have mention this countless time in this thread and others, they just want to complaint and b!tch. I doubt any of them would even try to contact Lucasfilm with letters, plus all of them will be first in line to purchase the release on Blu-ray in September even if they hate the Special Edition so much it make's them forget their wonderful childhood.

They just want to complaint and that is all, it's a hobby on the Internet.

[kenkraly2004]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Waste of time, I have mention this countless time in this thread and others, they just want to complaint and b!tch. I doubt any of them would even try to contact Lucasfilm with letters, plus all of them will be first in line to purchase the release on Blu-ray in September even if they hate the Special Edition so much it make's them forget their wonderful childhood.

They just want to complaint and that is all, it's a hobby on the Internet.

Here Here agreed well said.

[Brightstar]

unaltered or the 97 SE Lucus knows fans will buy the box set's becouse they will be in full HD 1080p for the first time . whats even better is that he has given fans a choice PT, OT and the whole saga.

The studio will release the saga in three distinct sets to meet the needs of every Star Wars fan.

[Nissen]

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Star Wars FILM collection: WARNING! NERDFEST!
1. Original 3 Films Unaltered on VHS, Individual Original Packaging (1986, FS).
2. ROTJ VHS (alternate Packaging, 1986, FS)
3. VHS 1992 Re-Release (as a trilogy, in a cool double-slipcover, WS)
4. 1997 Special Edition Trilogy, WS
5. the phantom menace DVD, WS
6. the phantom menace DVD, FS
7. attack of the clones DVD, WS
8. attack of the clones DVD, FS
9. revenge of the sith DVD, WS
10. revenge of the sity DVD, FS
11. 2004 DVD Trilogy Boxset, Silver (WS Trilogy)
12. ANH DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
13. ESB DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)
14. ROTJ DVD re-release WITH Unaltered Version (FS and WS)

Hah! I got that beat, check out my collection at http://www.swonvideo.com. I will buy the BD set and any and all versions of Star Wars on video. Lucas has my account #.

[Deciazulado]

Originally Posted by Bluyoda

Why the heck would you want the Fullscreen versions of the film?
Just for the sake of having everything released?

For sake of the tragedy of video history.

(I too have those in 4:3 as video history examples (plus having the widescreen letterboxed OOT on the second disc), makes for additional extras/supplement for the upcoming BD sets )

Originally Posted by ObiTrentKenobi

Star Wars FILM collection: WARNING! NERDFEST!

"Your collection is far from complete." - Vader

And not in my collection, but a friend of mine had this in the 70's and we projected it then onto my 50" 4:3 screen while thinking of when we saw it in 70mm on a D-150 screen (which might give you an idea of why watching 2.4 wide Blu-rays letterboxed on 40" 16:9 HDTVs is kind of underwhelming for the deci :>)

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[Cook]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Waste of time, I have mention this countless time in this thread and others, they just want to complaint and b!tch. I doubt any of them would even try to contact Lucasfilm with letters, plus all of them will be first in line to purchase the release on Blu-ray in September even if they hate the Special Edition so much it make's them forget their wonderful childhood.

They just want to complaint and that is all, it's a hobby on the Internet.

I guess you never saw the petition then, did you? As someone who would love to have the unaltered films in HD for my collection I find it insulting that you would presume to tell me how i feel. Not all of us do it to complain and *****. Some of us simply appreciate what they did for cinema. I watch the SE, but as a film fan the originals deserve a spot in my collection. I cant imagine why anyone wouldnt want them in HD. Whether you worship the SE or simply prefer them is the notion of having the unaltered films in HD such a bad one? I just don't understand the anamosity.

[Moviefan2k4]

Originally Posted by Cook

I guess you never saw the petition then, did you?

From what I've heard, online petitions rarely work for anything, because many of the studios never see them. Additionally, online fanboys probably account for a minor portion of the target audience, at best. So, the most effective way to get any studio's attention would be to write a note, call, or get a written petition and mail it in.

[nathan_393]

Originally Posted by Nissen

Hah! I got that beat, check out my collection at http://www.swonvideo.com. I will buy the BD set and any and all versions of Star Wars on video. Lucas has my account #.

That's...ridiculous.
Although, in the DVD section, you don't have the 2004 pressings. I don't know how you missed those.

[ObiTrentKenobi]

Originally Posted by Moviefan2k4

From what I've heard, online petitions rarely work for anything, because many of the studios never see them. Additionally, online fanboys probably account for a minor portion of the target audience, at best. So, the most effective way to get any studio's attention would be to write a note, call, or get a written petition and mail it in.

And Yet... I have a version of the trilogy "unaltered" on DVD... courtesy G. Lucas and 20th Century Fox. Splendid! Pretty close to what was asked. And close enough for a DVD release... but now we have Blu.

To answer your rant about my comments, I wasn't COMPLAINING about anything! I was clearly stating that I wish so dearly for the best effort possible on Lucasfilm's part. I know they can do wonderful work, they've been doing it ever since 1975 for crying out loud!

I know that the original negatives don't exist in perfect condition. But, this is 2011 - Lucasfilm has more than enough of a budget... All I HOPE for, is to take the BEST version they can muster up, CLEAN IT as much as possible, and provide it on a BLURAY disc uncompressed.

What's the harm in telling people on this forum that I hope for this? Instead I have to get comments back from troll turds who think they have the answer to everything under the sun.

As an individual who has spent a lot of bones on Lucasfilm merchandise and theater tickets, I believe I have a right to HOPE for certain things on the next release that I'll be spending money on anyway.